Also you have to keep in mind that this is not an issue of ‘if they could write the algorithm’. They are deliberately choosing to let some contact go. How many people here have tried this in real life and know for sure that you can’t really do this? I’ve watched enough touring car races where the driver shaves a wall or a barrier and they don’t exactly hit the handbrake, stop and get out! Point is that you can’t absolutely rule out that PD are modelling this correctly. And sure you wouldn’t do this in real life because you’d bugger up your paintwork but I be pretty certain that most professional racing drivers don’t give a rat’s ar*e about the condition of their paint if they trying to win.”

slightly more detailed than GT4? have you seen the gameplay of forza 2?
in total detail, it outstrips GT5, which has bland graphics, and horrific horizontal tearing with nasty lighting pop-in.
forza 2 on the other hand looks like this all the time: http://e3iuca.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbpYYUGW25fGxT0w5VD6AvSuBRYpyE8_xwkL1cJbGIouyd23egcLnMl5zFlCGjJyWV5eXGYHpyb59QIUjZOhYCw/1490555491_6c0fd2c458_o.jpg

and the damage system is extremely good at preventing wall riding.
sure, sometimes you can get away with tapping the wall, but try wall riding like these cheaters did in GT5 while driving a real car.

even the wall scraping system in GT5 is messed up, as it allows for almost all of the momentum to carry through with no side-affects.

stop making these excuses for ythese cheaters. they were told to race cleanly, and didnt. and because of the terrible systems used by GT5, they were allowed to get away with it.

lol @ comparing people who “cheat” in a videogame to rapists and child abusers, grow the hell up. It’s not even cheating anyway it’s just bad sportsmanship, way to carry on like a bunch of sooks over it though.

P.S I don’t wall-ride, I don’t even have GT5 P.

It is possible to do in the game and people can choose to do this.

Never the less, you will be banned from any respectable server for doing this as it is cheating. Unlike martyrdom it is not something the player was designed to do. It unbalances the game and is unfair.

It is cheating. Just like wall riding.

Now if there was one car in GT5p that was faster than all the rest by design and players had to choose that car or they would never be able to keep up, then choosing that car, like martyrdom, wouldn’t be considered cheating because the advantage would be intentional on the part of the developers.

Also you have to keep in mind that this is not an issue of ‘if they could write the algorithm’. They are deliberately choosing to let some contact go. How many people here have tried this in real life and know for sure that you can’t really do this? I’ve watched enough touring car races where the driver shaves a wall or a barrier and they don’t exactly hit the handbrake, stop and get out! Point is that you can’t absolutely rule out that PD are modelling this correctly. And sure you wouldn’t do this in real life because you’d bugger up your paintwork but I be pretty certain that most professional racing drivers don’t give a rat’s ar*e about the condition of their paint if they trying to win.

There’s already a racing game that has damage modeling, realistic physics and modern graphics. It’s called Forza 2. Oh yea, there is no wall riding like GT3 through 5. You’d think with all those processor cores, they could get someone to write an algorithm for “if (rubbing against the wall){go::slower};” Pathetic..

Seems to me that the only practical way of fixing the problem is fixing the game, and that doesn’t seem to be happening any time soon…

Doesn’t make the behaviour ok, but can anything really be done about it?

The Rules were stated clearly this is no different then getting an account banned for exploiting an online game. You all understand the guidelines and intent of the game and when you intentionally violate it to win you are a SCUMBAG.

Its that simple and its the truth.