bindidot

Eastley, for what it's worth I wasnt trying to slag you or argue, it was merely giving my opinion on the matter. Probably best not to air your point of view on here if you dont wish others to rebut or comment on what you have said.....its a forum remember.

BTW Cobra427, good analogy

eastley

Basically I think it's better to test a cars real pefromance without the upgrade of NOS, that way it's the way they do IRL, for production cars anyway. I'm kind of a OLD SCHOOL racer (although i'm only 22). I love the old muscle cars with pure engine grunt/muscle without all these electronic stuff thats in cars these days. The feel of a old Muscle going 300 km/h is much better than these new cars that sound kind of tinny. Although you can install NOS on a old muscle car I would rather keep them the weay they were built.

Thats just my opinion.

spoonbe

nissan fairlady Z 300zx (z31) 83 11199C
oil 50C
weight reduc stage 1 1100C
RC fly wheel 1000
CHIP 1250
STAGE 1 turbu 4600C
RC intercooler 2700C
carbon driveshaft 2750C
RC exhaust 4600C

little bit tweekt

13.516 323pk

rymaples

Mazda 323F '93
FF
$9,950
Oil Change-$50
Stage 2 Turbo-$12,500
Weight Reduction-$1,000
Racing Chip-$1,000
Nitrous-$5,000
Sports Clutch-$1,500
1/4 Mile 14.314


Mitsubishi Lancer GSR Evo '92
$9,582
AWD
Oil Change-$50
Stage 1 Weight Reduction-$1,100
Stage 2 Turbo-$13,000
Racing Intercooler-$2,700
Sports Exhaust-$1,550
Racing Chip-$1,250
Semi Racing Flywheel-$550

1/4 Mile 12.681



Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Ver ll '95
$9,617
AWD
Oil Change-$50
Stage 2 Turbo-$13,500
Racing Chip-$1,500
Nitrous-$5,000

1/4 Mile 11.835


I had an RX-7 hit 11.6XX but I never wrote down any of the info so I can't back that up. That was with nitrous though.

SpeedyR1

Mitsubishi Lancer Evo V GSR '98-$16,700
Oil Change-$50
Semi-Racing Exhaust-$2,900
Racing Chip-$1500
Stage 1 Turbo-$4800
Sport Intercooler-$1,800
Racing Flywheel-$1050
Stage 1 Weight Reduction-$1200

All parts from Mines

385HP

1/4 Mile-12.402

Im pretty happy with the results.

letdown427

My current best is now stands at 10.590 in an impreza WRX STi V '98
Car 14595
NOS 5000
Oil 50
Turbo 4800
Weight reduction 1200
Chip 1500
Sports exhaust 1600
Racing Flywheel 1050

Yields 343bhp
Oh and is the replay of one of those sub 10second runs available? with 30,000 that is impressive, my imaginery hat goes off to you.

h0ss

Wow, this is a fun concept.

I was up until 3am last night running 1/4 miles. So far, my best is in a Mercury Cougar XR-7 at around 12:605. I won't post full details until I get under 12:250 (no point).

But BOY did I have fun. I bought 9 different FR cars trying to get some good 1/4 mile speeds out of 'em. Nothing beats good old fashioned muscle for me.

cobra427

then once again just run in the no nos ....



but i have to agree with you i am old school too... i LOVE classic muscle... i used to have a 1968 or 69 Datsun pickup with a rocket88 and a turbo 350 tranny..... if you dont know thats an olds version 350 V8..... man that thing was nasty .. but had to move and didnt have room


hell i have a 1983 stang with a 2.3L 4 cyl in it .... i have the equipment and then computer to put a 302V8 fuel injected in it but i dont like computers .... and i didnt put a frigg'n 5 inch cowel hood on it for a fuel injector ... can you say Highrise dual 4bbl



but still thats no reason for me to hate not ... granted i would NEVER used it IRL ... i love my cars too much and that crap will wear an engine quick ... i see no reason not to use it in a game that provides it for a hefty price .... take a look at the FR comp ... with some good tuning those non Nos could catch up with the Nos users .....

even tho on the lost it says there is a 10 second FR in no nos ... its in the wrong list



"that way it's the way they do IRL" dude they use nos IRL in drag races .... if you mean streat cars then well your in for a surprise you know how many street cars ive seen pack'n a bottle of Nos? way too many

cobra427

i wish i could make vids... best i can do is a incredibly low quality gif from my camera ... but you cant even see the car half the time and it wont work on this pc :/


i paniced when i got my sub 10 ... i thought i had the wrong car then when i checked my records for it it was the right one ... i was go'n crazy lol

Ford 429 Hemi

Guys who are lookin for a more muscle car oriented challenge, wlel I have your answer.
The GT4 Muscle Car Challenge
The rules:
Any muscle car you want
$25K in mods.
Nitrous, wings and tires all count towards the $25K.
The challenge has options:
1/4 mile run, just go *****in fast

Time Trails, five tracks, do your best to make these hunkers put up quick laps:
Tracks:
Nurburgring
Laguna Seca
Infineon Raceway Sports Car Track
La Sarthe II
Test Track (big oval)

I have set-up a site for this that the times will be listed on.
www.joshx.freeservers.com
Also, the car list is posted there, only the cars listed will have times posted.
To get your times onto the site, just pm me here, hit me on AIM, or email me.
And lnclude what mods you used and your settings. The rules and car and track list are all there for future reference. Good Luck and have fun...

cobra427

thats a cool idea but could you add a track ... circuit de la sarthe II? i love this track for testing my cars ... mainly cause i cant even make a lap on the nurb lol .. well i can but the amount of tries it takes just doesnt make it worth it :P

jaxx751

so are we gonna have catigories? we should setup separate threads, and only post if you beat someone's time...

so... FF is what im gonna run...

what do u guys think?

-jaxx

Ford 429 Hemi

I actualy forgot about that track so heck yeah I'm adding it.
I also gotta add a Camaro I found in the used car lot.

Delirious

i still say we need a 10, 15, 20, 25, 50, 75, 100k (etc.) bracket for those who want more or less power options

cobra427

yea that would be nice but it would be way too much to maintain like we are do'n this .... and someone has allready tried to start a 50k but got rejected so i dont think they are gonna let us make any new threads ....

Volred

My new car test:
Car: Honda Civic Type R (EK) '98
Best time: 15.106 (achieved holding R2 to get a longer time on 2nd gear) (no nitrous)

Cost:
Civic: 12,984cr
Oil Change: 50cr
Semi Racing Exhaust: 2,800cr
Racing Chip: 1,000cr
Turbine Kit Stage 2: 12,500cr
Free Items:
Full Tranny
Full limited Slip
Full Suspension
Final Cost: 29,334cr

Original HP: 165
HP Added 122
Final HP: 287
Final weight: 1,050
Final p/w ratio: 3.66

Tuning:
Sports M2 Tires
Suspension:
Spring Rate Front: 3.4 (lowest)
Spring Rate Rear: 2.1(lowest)
Ride Height Front: 89 (lowest)
Ride Height Rear: 162 (highest)

Tranny:
Auto: 18
Final: 4.250
1st Gear: 2.446 (widest possible)
2nd Gear: 1.737 (made it wider till the car reached top speed)
3rd Gear: 1.360 (making the gear shallower made it faster)
4th, 5th, 6th gears are not used in this test and are left as default

Weight Distribution:
Ballast: 100kg added
Front/Rear Balance: -50 (all the weight to the front)

TCS: 6

I am very happy with this time. I started out with 15.6xx and as I kept tuning, and playing with settings I was very happy to see the time keep going down, and down and down. This car responds to tuning WAAAYYY better than that stupid skyline which would not move its time at all.

I will come back and put NOS in this car. I want to see how fast I can get it.

cobra427

you know if the car has a low end power you might wanna try use'n a manual tranny and start'n in second .... you can also shorten the gears alot for faster accel when start'n in second as you will not spin as much


and once you get used to it you will actually get better times than auto even start'n in 1st and use'n the same settings


you should look for the 2001 CIVIC TYPE R (EP)


212HP and with 16k miles is only 14299C


and im not the best at suspension tuning but to me it looks like your weight trasfer is really crazy ... you got the right idea if transfer'n all the cars weight to the front but at the same time whe you take off with such soft springs its gonna slam the rear down and actually take alot of weight off the front



but as i said i dont know that much about susp tuning ... ive allways concintrated on gearing in all the GT games

semvhu

Updated times:

Finally, I break into the 10's! Took me long enough.

It's the Camaro I've been tweaking on. I'll restate everything since it's a few pages back with the listed information for my car.

1997 Chevrolet Camaro Z28

With N2O

50 Shot Nitrous: $5000
Supercharger: $13,500
Racing Chip: $1500
Stage 1 Weight Reduction: $1200
Oil Change $50
Base cost of car: $8438
Total cost: $29,688
Best 1/4 mile time: 10.987

Without Nitrous
Supercharger: $13,500
Racing Chip: $1500
Semi-racing exhaust: 2900
Racing Flywheel: $1050
Stage 1 Weight Reduction: $1200
Oil Change: $50
Total cost: $28638
Best 1/4 mile time: 11.957


Adding weight to the back of the car REALLY helped out. Upon first try with my nitrous setup, simply adding the full 200 lb to the back of the car took off 0.4 seconds on the 1/4 mile. For anyone that hasn't tried adding weight in the back (or to the front for an FF car), I definitely recommend messing around with the weight ballast.

bindidot

Who says persistence doesnt pay? Stellar times semvhu!

semvhu

LOL, thanks dude! Now I should REALLY go to bed. But, but, I just have to play with my FF entry a tiny bit.......