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GT Motion
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OldNov 02 2009, 6:27 PM
The screen shots on the homepage of the new "in game footage" is too good to be true, they rendered out all of the jaggies and act like the game will look that good. Anyone who has played the prologue knows that the game is littered with jaggies.

I love GT but they are such liars with their screen shots, I mean, look at the PSP on their home page, the PSP does not look half as good as their homepage ad insinuates.

Why cant we just get real screen shots and not these renders?

I really hope I am wrong and they somehow improved the graphics and jaggies times 10 but for some reason I feel like when we get the game the jaggies and graphics will be back and not what is promised in the screenshots.
 
Justin
Justonite
OldNov 02 2009, 6:29 PM
Well judging from the demo's they are fairly close graphic wise. You also can't really determine what GT5 will look like from GT5P as there have been years of separation.

The only thing we can do is wait and see.
 
Devedander
Diamond Member
OldNov 02 2009, 6:41 PM
I think those are photomode screenshots which can add a lot of quality to the shots... also they are being shown at lower than real life resolution which helps remove jaggies.

As for why show them instead of ingame shots? Well... technically it's not lying and it looks better... marketing.
 
Dave A
TreVoR fan for life
OldNov 02 2009, 6:52 PM
It's no different to the sudden difference in Turn 10's screen shots of Forza 3 then seein g the actual in game graphics being noticably worse. It's marketing, and by using an ingame tool like photomode that enhances the graphics while remaining ingame, they can do so without technically lying. That said, I'm not saying thoes pics are definitely photomode pics, beacuse when a picture is scaled down like that it can sometimes give the impression that it looks better than it actually does. You lose certain defining details when you make a picture smaller and it becomes harder to spot the cues that set it apart from real life.
 
blademask
Windows down please.
OldNov 02 2009, 7:13 PM
If you aren't happy with the way GT5p looks.... I mean...who cares?

Enjoy not playing it. The jaggies... the jaggies... there isn't a game that has better visuals than GT5p with less jaggies. Thats a fact.
 
sumbrownkid
Diamond Member
OldNov 02 2009, 9:41 PM
Why do people get all bent over jaggies? It's not like you notice them when your flying at 150+ mph.
 
NoxNoctis Umbra
We are all one mind
OldNov 02 2009, 9:52 PM
GT Motion View Post
The screen shots on the homepage of the new "in game footage" is too good to be true, they rendered out all of the jaggies and act like the game will look that good. Anyone who has played the prologue knows that the game is littered with jaggies.

I love GT but they are such liars with their screen shots, I mean, look at the PSP on their home page, the PSP does not look half as good as their homepage ad insinuates.

Why cant we just get real screen shots and not these renders?

I really hope I am wrong and they somehow improved the graphics and jaggies times 10 but for some reason I feel like when we get the game the jaggies and graphics will be back and not what is promised in the screenshots.
FM3 does the same, maybe go there as well and complain also? Oh wait, need for Speed shift does the same.. oh wait.. etc etc..

Sure it's all in game, but photo mode adds bit more of good lightning and less jaggies... at 8 mega pixel resolution! I don't care, when I race I think about racing, when I wanan go to photo mode I do not want jaggies, so far PD does great job.
 
cicohipe
Senior Member
OldNov 02 2009, 10:03 PM
All games do it. It's not just GT5, or Forza, or NFS, or any other racing game. It's all games across all genre's. The fact is it looks very unproffesional to release shots of a game with jaggie's or any glitches in them. It's not lieing, it's professionalism.

Also as stated, when you reduce the size of a picture then the aliasing issues are far less noticeable.
 
myke6699
GTP Fanatic
OldNov 02 2009, 10:11 PM
Here's one of GT5 Prologue's bullshot:



And here's one straight off my screen:



You do see the more "jaggies" compared to the top photo but for most part, it's pretty close. At this point of gaming console advancement, you shouldn't expect anything like the top photo. Even a high end PC would be stuttering at that kind of resolution and the amount of AntiAliasing etc.
 
GT Motion
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OldNov 02 2009, 10:14 PM
I didnt see much of the Forza Ad's so I cant compare that, but NFS showed in game footage in their commercial, actual gameplay. I love GT so dont trip out on me Fanboys, but when I had GT PSP the difference between that and what they advertise is lightyears.

GT > Forza > NFS just FYI for the haters.
 
Devedander
Diamond Member
OldNov 02 2009, 10:25 PM
GTPSP was full on bullshots a lot of the time... what we see here I could easily believe is actulaly GT5 photomode.
 
GT Motion
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OldNov 02 2009, 10:32 PM
Devedander View Post
GTPSP was full on bullshots a lot of the time... what we see here I could easily believe is actulaly GT5 photomode.
Yea I can believe the photomode, photomode in Forza looks epic, so you know GT will outdo that.
 
hardvibes
Silver Member
OldNov 02 2009, 10:44 PM
What jaggies? Forget the aliasing and low quality shadows gt5p. We all know everything looks better now!
Last edited by hardvibes; Nov 02 2009 at 10:49 PM..
 
jedaye
Junior Member
OldNov 02 2009, 10:57 PM
Guys this doesn't just happen in the Video Gaming Industry, it happens everywhere. When was the last time you bought something at McDonalds that looked exactly like they advertised it. What we get is partly squashed, with tomatoe sauce sticking out the side. Would you buy something that would look like that? Probably not. I'm perfectly fine with these screenshots.

 
FLASH48
Grumpy Old Troll
OldNov 02 2009, 11:45 PM
I don't look for jaggies when i'm racing. I'm looking for the next guy or gal to pass!
 
Pierced Lead
Senior Member
OldNov 03 2009, 12:05 AM
Well, jaggies are a significant matter IMO, but the jaggies in GT5P aren't very much. That's why I usually pick the PC versions of games, but nothing is perfect, and you will undoubtedly see jaggies on all recent heavy games.
 
chepe371
GTFiend
OldNov 03 2009, 2:19 AM
You dont sell a lifetime subscription to TIME.


You sell a lifetime of information, news and windows into other cultures.

Same thing. Embellished.
 
amar212
GTSurgeons.com
OldNov 03 2009, 2:35 AM
GT Motion View Post
The screen shots on the homepage of the new "in game footage" is too good to be true, they rendered out all of the jaggies and act like the game will look that good. Anyone who has played the prologue knows that the game is littered with jaggies.
And how on Earth would you produce JAGGIES on the CAPTURE CARD?

Sorry my dear kid, but sometimes many of you really fail on test of primal inteligence.

BTW I have a Pioneer 720p plasma and I literally do not have almost any jaggies on my screen, from any game, not just GT. So, maybe you should buy yourself a decent screen instead of complaining.
 
BlackZ28
INFINITI
OldNov 03 2009, 3:27 AM
GT5P definitely has plenty of jaggies for all to view. My new top of the line Sony 1080p shows 'em all. Those screens are ********. Nothing new..
 
cicohipe
Senior Member
OldNov 03 2009, 3:43 AM
amar212 View Post
And how on Earth would you produce JAGGIES on the CAPTURE CARD?

Sorry my dear kid, but sometimes many of you really fail on test of primal inteligence.

BTW I have a Pioneer 720p plasma and I literally do not have almost any jaggies on my screen, from any game, not just GT. So, maybe you should buy yourself a decent screen instead of complaining.
I don't see how a capture card would remove jaggie's, unless this was some kind of after capture feature.

Also this game most certainly does have jaggies. You don't list the size of your screen but from my understanding the smallest plasma's produced are 42" so on a screen of that size or larger you are definitely going to notice jaggies. I know this because i play GT on a 1080p 42" plasma. Also have played it on a 32" LCD 720p and the case is the same.
 
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