Logitech Challenge-US players, free suff.

Chadwicksracing

Ok, Today I am going full force on Logitech and Sony Computer Entertainment of America.

In the Rules its states this:



Under those grounds the person who wall rode should be Disqualified from the Event because they are deliberately undermining the competition by using the wall in the final turn to improve their time. Therefore cheating.



If anyone would like to help me get those individuals Disqualified for that action can call SCEA and Logitech.

Sony Computer Entertainment America
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800-345-7669 (800-345-SONY)

There office in CA:
Sony office of Logitech Challenge:
919 E Hillsdale Blvd # 200
Foster City, CA 94404
(650) 655-8000

Logitech:
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Thank you for your support, and I hope justice will be served. If Sphinx can do it, I can do it.

CWR

Come on everyone if we stand up we can make a difference. Why let a no good cheater win a prize for just wall riding the last corner. If you care about how contests in the full GT5 game and even in Prologue are going to be ran, then now is the time to make that change. Tell PD and Logitech that cheating will not be tolerated in Prologue and we as a community will fight against these cheaters.

even if they were to try and fix this, how could they possibly identify who was wall riding now? all the top 10 are probably doing it--they have videos we can see. but most of the top 20 probably are too, and they don't. Even if somehow everybody's ghost data was saved, somebody then has to go through them all--and I just don't see it happening. How far back do they have to go to get 3 clean laps? And even on a 'clean' lap, would there be a way to know the lap before it wasn't dirty allowing extra speed to be carried down the long opening straight?

Gran Turismo online play is as broken as any of the famously useless mario kart titles--this little exploit is nothing compared to some of the things I've seen out there. Screw it, pull online from the game if it can't be done right.

BOOYAH!!! I have yet to buy a wheel, & now that wait might have finally paid off... my chance for a free wheel is finally here!!! but, there's 1 major problem i have, i can't seem to make up the 3.4 second gap between me & 1st place.

reaperman

even if they were to try and fix this, how could they possibly identify who was wall riding now? all the top 10 are probably doing it--they have videos we can see. but most of the top 20 probably are too, and they don't. Even if somehow everybody's ghost data was saved, somebody then has to go through them all--and I just don't see it happening. How far back do they have to go to get 3 clean laps? And even on a 'clean' lap, would there be a way to know the lap before it wasn't dirty allowing extra speed to be carried down the long opening straight?

Gran Turismo online play is as broken as any of the famously useless mario kart titles--this little exploit is nothing compared to some of the things I've seen out there. Screw it, pull online from the game if it can't be done right.

Since our very own GTP_CWR was #10 yesterday afternoon, running a clean lap within a couple hundredths of the leader, I have no trouble believing that there would be 3 clean racers in at least the top 30.

You're right though, we have no idea (though I'm sure they do) if PD has a system in place to save the replays that have been knocked out of the top 10.

Here is the GOOD NEWS.

I was able to contact somone that is DIRECTLY connect with the Logitech Challenge. A nice fella named Charlie at Logitech started a case, and said he would e-mail his bosses about this and some action would be taken. I don't know what that means, but I got a hold of someone and they are now aware of the cheating. I will keep you posted about all of this, but he was actually fimilar with the game, and played it..ect. So I think I did what I wanted to do, which is all I can do, and hope and pray that those replays will be deleted.

CWR

Chadwicksracing

Here is the GOOD NEWS.

I was able to contact somone that is DIRECTLY connect with the Logitech Challenge. A nice fella named Charlie at Logitech started a case, and said he would e-mail his bosses about this and some action would be taken. I don't know what that means, but I got a hold of someone and they are now aware of the cheating. I will keep you posted about all of this, but he was actually fimilar with the game, and played it..ect. So I think I did what I wanted to do, which is all I can do, and hope and pray that those replays will be deleted.

CWR

VERY well done.

+1000 imaginary rep pts.

Chadwicksracing

Here is the GOOD NEWS.

I was able to contact somone that is DIRECTLY connect with the Logitech Challenge. A nice fella named Charlie at Logitech started a case, and said he would e-mail his bosses about this and some action would be taken. I don't know what that means, but I got a hold of someone and they are now aware of the cheating. I will keep you posted about all of this, but he was actually fimilar with the game, and played it..ect. So I think I did what I wanted to do, which is all I can do, and hope and pray that those replays will be deleted.

CWR

Good job, Chad

You are the man, CWR!

Chadwicksracing

Here is the GOOD NEWS.

I was able to contact somone that is DIRECTLY connect with the Logitech Challenge. A nice fella named Charlie at Logitech started a case, and said he would e-mail his bosses about this and some action would be taken. I don't know what that means, but I got a hold of someone and they are now aware of the cheating. I will keep you posted about all of this, but he was actually fimilar with the game, and played it..ect. So I think I did what I wanted to do, which is all I can do, and hope and pray that those replays will be deleted.

CWR

Let me point out a few things. I am not make a huge stink about this because I want to win. I am making this a big stink because its not right that someone is using a wall to aid their lap.. Its wrong and unfair to the other conpetitors. It just drivers me nuts that people do that.

But what I am most embarassed about is I wall rode initially to be as fast as them. I am not trying to make myself look so selfless, but I am human and I wanted to win too. Then I just got sick of it, because everyone was doing it and I really wanted a clean lap, because it makes me feel like I am that good and because its the right thing to do. Let me tell you a clean lap makes you feel like you have achieved more because you know you are that fast.

I hope I put a end to the "WIN AT ALL COST" attitude. Someone should win because they are truely the best and fastest, because they have the skill neccessary to be that fast. One should not win because of using the guard rail to aid their effort. A truely good driver can make a car go that fast without using a wall.. Which in real life would either kill you or wreck your car for the day.

Thanks for the Support,
CWR

P.S. Perhaps we won one battle, but the fight for honesty and integrity is not over. We still have a lot of heads to turn.

Good luck Chad.

Currently 17th at 1:18.76. I could maybe do a 18.6ish if I kept at it (clean) but from racing the #1 ghost replay I see I lose a few tenths of time in the final turn. I turn hard at the beginning of the horse shoe and slide half way through the turn towards the wall and stay high the rest of the way. Not complaining, but I don't see being able to get into the 18.5s or better without wall riding. I hope the next event is pro and not standard. Cheers.

geo1098

Currently 17th at 1:18.76. I could maybe do a 18.6ish if I kept at it (clean) but from racing the #1 ghost replay I see I lose a few tenths of time in the final turn. I turn hard at the beginning of the horse shoe and slide half way through the turn towards the wall and stay high the rest of the way. Not complaining, but I don't see being able to get into the 18.5s or better without wall riding. I hope the next event is pro and not standard. Cheers.

I left at least .150 out there.., I think A 1'18.450 is possible with a clean lap. Good luck.. I could give you my ghost.. I have a clean lap in 11th.

Let me know if you want it.

Im not sure where im ranked as of now but I was 2nd earlier today.... at first I was really pissed that it was high speed ring cuz I knew everyone would be wall riding, So I knew i had no chance unless i joined the wall riding club.. Being that logitech did not post any rules, what am I to do??? Race Clean? on Standard?? Feels like Im playing need for speed, I cant Stand it, So I might as well Do whatever I have to do to win. I do hope the next event Is Pro on N1's or something which requires more skill.

Whoa91

Im not sure where im ranked as of now but I was 2nd earlier today.... at first I was really pissed that it was high speed ring cuz I knew everyone would be wall riding, So I knew i had no chance unless i joined the wall riding club.. Being that logitech did not post any rules, what am I to do??? Race Clean? on Standard?? Feels like Im playing need for speed, I cant Stand it, So I might as well Do whatever I have to do to win. I do hope the next event Is Pro on N1's or something which requires more skill.

You have a 50% chance they don't care about wall riding, and a 50% chance they do, therefore DQing your lap time.

I hope that Eiger is challenging too.

Good Luck

well done Chad mate,like i said just keep trying and something good will happen!!!...now i hope you win some price to...you deserve it...



spyrrari.

For all of your efforts put into this,even if you don't get 1st prize,you deserve the consolation prize at least

how about the next two courses--eiger and suzuka. how easy are those to exploit?

I'd think Eiger would be pretty safe--minor corner clipping at most, but I thought there were ways to do major cutting on parts of suzuka. At least I've heard previous complaints of it.

reaperman

how about the next two courses--eiger and suzuka. how easy are those to exploit?

I'd think Eiger would be pretty safe--minor corner clipping at most, but I thought there were ways to do major cutting on parts of suzuka. At least I've heard previous complaints of it.

I've seen a few things that can be done at Eiger

Such as, driving as fast as possible in T1 hitting the wall and gain a lot of time..We will see and if that happens, I will call Logitech again about that.

If it's reversed eiger then people will ride the banked sand on the turn before the tunnel. Im not sure if they also ride it on the way up, unless they go offroading on every turn after the tunnel.

I've been reading this thread for the past couple of days. I even raised a question about my own lap a couple of days ago. I have to say you guys are the most impressive, dedicated, honest and fast group of racers I've encountered on the web. I am wowed by your dedication to the "competition" and it being judged and competed honestly. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the powers that be at PD and Logitech come here first for community feedback. Great job to all of you.