Forza 3 Nurburgring

neige · Oct 28 2009, 2:27 AM #1

Hi all, I've done a search on the forum before posting this.

Is it just me or have Turn10 dumbed down the Nurburgring...this track seems unacceptably easy compared to Forza 2 or GT4. It also seems like they've made the track wider and turns wider. I dont know, it could be just me.

McLaren · Oct 28 2009, 2:41 AM #2

All I've seen so far is that it definitely isn't as bumpy, they have made some parts narrower, and they did re-do some sections.

However, my thoughts remain the same as before. One of the worst representations of the real track, which is an incredible shame because running this track through the cockpit of a car makes it so much more exciting. PGR4, GT4, & Shift, imo, are much more exciting to drive this track on because the course is much closer to how it should be in these games (regardless of physics).

With that said, the cockpit view can still make the course a little more enjoyable, but it won't change the fact that you'll know something isn't right with this track.

neige · Oct 28 2009, 3:03 AM #3

McLaren

All I've seen so far is that it definitely isn't as bumpy, they have made some parts narrower, and they did re-do some sections.

However, my thoughts remain the same as before. One of the worst representations of the real track, which is an incredible shame because running this track through the cockpit of a car makes it so much more exciting. PGR4, GT4, & Shift, imo, are much more exciting to drive this track on because the course is much closer to how it should be in these games (regardless of physics).

With that said, the cockpit view can still make the course a little more enjoyable, but it won't change the fact that you'll know something isn't right with this track.

Yeah it feels boring, not as exciting anymore

***Jordan*** · Oct 28 2009, 11:26 AM #4

After watching gameplay videos of the track, I was particularly disappointed with the inaccuracy of the curbs. The steep curbing plays a large part in the difficulty of the track in not just other games, but real life as well (I've driven 6 laps of the Nordschleife). I don't understand why they would leave out this important detail which makes the circuit much more fun and challenging to drive.

Moglet · Oct 28 2009, 1:20 PM #5

Jordan

After watching gameplay videos of the track, I was particularly disappointed with the inaccuracy of the curbs. The steep curbing plays a large part in the difficulty of the track in not just other games, but real life as well (I've driven 6 laps of the Nordschleife). I don't understand why they would leave out this important detail which makes the circuit much more fun and challenging to drive.

The cars react very dramatically to the curbs in FM3 though, even if they are small. I flipped my Abarth 500 on one at low speeds.

McLaren · Oct 28 2009, 2:42 PM #6

Moglet

The cars react very dramatically to the curbs in FM3 though, even if they are small. I flipped my Abarth 500 on one at low speeds.

This. A small strip at New York has nearly flipped my 997 GT2. Have kept as far away as possible from the 'Ring's rumble strips.

Bogie 19th · Oct 28 2009, 4:06 PM #7

Sup with all the avatar changes to periodic elements?

Loon · Oct 28 2009, 4:23 PM #8

Bogie 19th

Sup with all the avatar changes to periodic elements?

Premium User avatar fad, and they're not meant to be elements.

BlackZ28 · Oct 28 2009, 8:12 PM #9

I gotta say, I love the track in the game. I've never raced on the real thing, so I suppose I don't know what I'm truly missing. I have raced on it in many other games. This seems like a great representation judging by the previous titles.

ShobThaBob · Oct 28 2009, 11:38 PM #10

It's really not. It feels like almost every corner has been changed.

Bogie 19th · Oct 29 2009, 7:03 AM #11

Loon

Premium User avatar fad, and they're not meant to be elements.

I was kidding about the Elements. But good to know about the fad

I am loving this track update big time.

Lain · Oct 29 2009, 7:50 AM #12

All I know is that Forza 3's Nurburgring is the easiest to drive videogame representation of the track I've ever played.

Realistic? I dunno... never driven on Nurburgring myself, and I'm playing Forza 3 with a pad. Fun? Oh hell yes.

YSSMAN · Oct 29 2009, 10:31 AM #13

McLaren

Have kept as far away as possible from the 'Ring's rumble strips.

I did a flying lap of the track last night in the Evora, and I didn't experience any major problems with them. Generally speaking, the track is drastically improved compared to its predecessors in the Forza titles, but of course, its not perfect. They added more of the surface bumps and humps toward the back of the track, but its nowhere near as accurate as what was in GT4. For a game that has talked a lot about being "balanced" for newbies and veterans, I'd deem their version of the Nurburgring, at the very least, acceptable.

vr6wantsr20det · Oct 29 2009, 11:19 AM #14

I think you guys may be right, first day i got the game (tuesday) i took a Stock AE86 (easy car to drive) and i FLEW through the ring, it doesn't seem the elevation changes and inperfections on the road are as pronounced in forza. I am on controller so it's not the best comparison. A good game, but i can't just the realism on a controller and i can't pony up the money for the Fanatec wheel, whenver my G25 and it's back-up fails i may spring for one....

neige · Oct 29 2009, 7:03 PM #15

good to know some of you feel the same.

TBR 427 · Oct 30 2009, 6:16 AM #16

YSSMAN

"balanced" for newbies ...Nurburgring

But the n00bs don't belong on the nurburgring. You know this, I know this. Everyone knows this.

It's supposed to be a challenging track where people go to truly test themselves and their machines, to the limit. It's a proving ground, used for pushing boundaries and scaring people.

Not some kid-friendly theme park ride.

Eric. · Oct 30 2009, 11:31 AM #17

I actually felt like the ring was much, much improved for this version. I'd need to go play GT4 for a quick comparison for the "standard" but it seemed good enough to me.

Tenacious D · Oct 30 2009, 11:32 AM #18

As others have said, the "wrong Ring" undoubtedly boils down to making it more fun and less of a pain for online play. It's become so much of a Turn 10 tradition by now, I doubt they'll ever model the Nurburgring correctly.

Devedander · Oct 30 2009, 6:25 PM #19

TBR 427

But the n00bs don't belong on the nurburgring. You know this, I know this. Everyone knows this.

The irony being that the Nurb is one of the few tracks that anyone can just drive onto, pay a fee and race on... so really the noobs do belong there just as much as the rest of us.

Kryz11 · Oct 30 2009, 7:15 PM #20

Devedander

The irony being that the Nurb is one of the few tracks that anyone can just drive onto, pay a fee and race on... so really the noobs do belong there just as much as the rest of us.

Only for free run days, whenever events are there, you have to be participating in that race or u can't drive there

Pretty much any track in the world you an drive every day.

California 86	Oct 28 2009, 2:27 AM #1 neige Junior Member Hi all, I've done a search on the forum before posting this. Is it just me or have Turn10 dumbed down the Nurburgring...this track seems unacceptably easy compared to Forza 2 or GT4. It also seems like they've made the track wider and turns wider. I dont know, it could be just me.

Wisconsin 3,529	Oct 28 2009, 4:06 PM #7 Bogie 19th 32nd MP Veteran Sup with all the avatar changes to periodic elements?

Tulsa, OK 1,638	Oct 28 2009, 8:12 PM #9 BlackZ28 INFINITI I gotta say, I love the track in the game. I've never raced on the real thing, so I suppose I don't know what I'm truly missing. I have raced on it in many other games. This seems like a great representation judging by the previous titles.

Premium Houston 2,429	Oct 28 2009, 11:38 PM #10 ShobThaBob Diamond Member It's really not. It feels like almost every corner has been changed.

Yokosuka 4,614	Oct 29 2009, 7:50 AM #12 Lain Team Misato Online Now! All I know is that Forza 3's Nurburgring is the easiest to drive videogame representation of the track I've ever played. Realistic? I dunno... never driven on Nurburgring myself, and I'm playing Forza 3 with a pad. Fun? Oh hell yes.

California 86	Oct 29 2009, 7:03 PM #15 neige Junior Member good to know some of you feel the same.

Premium United States 8,427	Oct 30 2009, 11:31 AM #17 Eric. I actually felt like the ring was much, much improved for this version. I'd need to go play GT4 for a quick comparison for the "standard" but it seemed good enough to me.

U S A 5,321	Oct 30 2009, 11:32 AM #18 Tenacious D GT5 Standard rapscallion As others have said, the "wrong Ring" undoubtedly boils down to making it more fun and less of a pain for online play. It's become so much of a Turn 10 tradition by now, I doubt they'll ever model the Nurburgring correctly.