Round 1 Technical Discussion: Tsukuba

R1600Turbo · Dec 23 2010, 10:57 AM #21

Choate51

If it makes you feel better I was at a consistent .3 last night then all of a sudden I started getting into the .2's and .1's quite consistently. Just stay focused. Try doing multiple quick laps instead of 1 lap crash then restart. You can't develop a rhythm.

Not to mention you start on cold tires every time.

Forcednduckshn · Dec 23 2010, 11:17 AM #22

R1600Turbo

Not to mention you start on cold tires every time.

Yeah, I find that funny. Why not just start us on warm tires so that we can have a real go at a fast time on the 1st lap? Also, I haven't done more than 10 or 15 laps in a row at Tsukuba, but I have observed virtually no appreciable tire wear. Is tire wear turned off for the GT Academy?

chriz00 · Dec 23 2010, 11:19 AM #23

Anyone have advice as to how to do turn 4 ??

I keep understeering that bit and slows me down.

Choate51 · Dec 23 2010, 11:22 AM #24

diamond it. go in shallower than you think, let the car rotate then gas it out of there.

chriz00 · Dec 23 2010, 11:24 AM #25

^^What is meant by "diamond it"? And once I know I am open for throttle ...it's FULL throttle, correct?

Thanks.

Choate51 · Dec 23 2010, 11:33 AM #26

How 'bout these MS paint skills LOL

chriz00 · Dec 23 2010, 11:40 AM #27

^^haha, thanks ...will try later.

Kreepnslayer · Dec 23 2010, 11:41 AM #28

Man I'm struggling. My best lap so far is 1:06.907.
The car handles so strangely. With ABS on one, it understeers big time, but turning it off seemingly puts the car into drift mode. My best lap has been done basically drifting each corner on the track.
For those using ABS set on one (which from the leaderboards seems like dang near everyone) how are you overcoming the understeer issues?
I see brief flashes of getting into 1:05xxx, but then I screw up a turn.

I'll keep trying. My goal is to make it past the first round. The other tracks I see where I'm slow and know what I have to do to get near the top. I just am having a hard time getting the feel for the Fairlady.

Choate51 · Dec 23 2010, 11:43 AM #29

To over come the understeer issue, I am sure some are using the E-brake (i don't) others trail brake into the corner and right when the rear wheels start to slide just a wii bit turn the wheel and try and time it to get the back end to help us.

R1600Turbo · Dec 23 2010, 11:44 AM #30

^^^ That about sums it up.

blindsidefive0 · Dec 23 2010, 11:59 AM #31

I will never restart because you waste a full lap. However, I have come w/in 0.1s of my fast lap at Cape and Rome on an out-lap - that just means that I am slower than myself...or something like that.

Stanley145 · Dec 23 2010, 12:05 PM #32

Choate51

If it makes you feel better I was at a consistent .3 last night then all of a sudden I started getting into the .3's and .2's quite consistently. Just stay focused. Try doing multiple quick laps instead of 1 lap crash then restart. You can't develop a rhythm.

I'm no rocket... 1:06.767 but I couldn't agree more with choate, I raced for about 7 hrs the first day and the second day using 1 lap crash and restart, it sucks and is really frustrating never getting under 1:07, but if you keep running you hit a rhythm, and not as frustrating. Btw does anyone know if your tires get better or worse the longer you run without restarting?

Choate51 · Dec 23 2010, 12:07 PM #33

I haven't noticed a lick of difference with the tires from lap 1 to 50, that's how long my last run here was.

R1600Turbo · Dec 23 2010, 12:08 PM #34

Technically they get warmer, creating more grip. (Supposed to)

Edit: I wish we could turn off the split times on the screen. I don't want to know if I'm behind or ahead each lap. Messes me up.

Choate51 · Dec 23 2010, 12:13 PM #35

R1600Turbo

Technically they get warmer, creating more grip. (Supposed to)

Edit: I wish we could turn off the split times on the screen. I don't want to know if I'm behind or ahead each lap. Messes me up.

Have you tried turning off the HUD?

R1600Turbo · Dec 23 2010, 12:14 PM #36

Choate51

Have you tried turning off the HUD?

I won't have that update until tonight. I'll give it a shot and see what happens.

HeroPride · Dec 23 2010, 1:43 PM #37

Wow thank you guys, i been restarting in 1st/2ND lap all the time because I crashed. Ill try this tonight because last night on cape ring i kept on going so thats why my times got better.

SuperCobraJet · Dec 23 2010, 2:29 PM #38

Maybe its just me, but it appears that once you get down around 1:06 flat you will have to employ less TCS or ABS and turn the car with the brake or gas, to improve time from that point down into the 1:05s.

What do some of you 1:05ers think?

blindsidefive0 · Dec 23 2010, 3:01 PM #39

SuperCobraJet

Maybe its just me, but it appears that once you get down around 1:06 flat you will have to employ less TCS or ABS and turn the car with the brake or gas, to improve time from that point down into the 1:05s.

What do some of you 1:05ers think?

I think you are right. TCS should be off, ABS should be 1. You definitely need to use both trail braking and power to rotate the car. I forgot to turn TCS off before a run last night, and I was stuck at like 1:06 or 1:05.9 - I was like WTF is going on here...then I realized it was the fault of the driving aids.

T1 is a perfect example - basically you are only at 100% braking for a short period, and then you ease off and begin to turn in. Use JUST enough braking to rotate the car without sliding, and then as soon as you are going to make the apex, begin easing in the throttle to keep the car rotating a bit and then settle the back down to accelerate to track out.

I'm not the fastest at 1:05.6xx - others in the low 1:05's may want to weigh in.

GEORGE_GR33 · 3:10 PM

Hi guys, you are very lucky to have the academy. I’m stuck with bspec instead.

I tried this combo in practice for about an hour, just to remember how it is to drive and I did 1.05.390.I see a time under 1.04.9xx , maybe under .8xx.Good luck to all

George

SoCal, USA 522	Dec 23 2010, 11:19 AM #23 chriz00 You... what have you done Anyone have advice as to how to do turn 4 ?? I keep understeering that bit and slows me down.

Columbus, Indiana 619	Dec 23 2010, 11:22 AM #24 Choate51 Bronze Member diamond it. go in shallower than you think, let the car rotate then gas it out of there.

SoCal, USA 522	Dec 23 2010, 11:24 AM #25 chriz00 You... what have you done ^^What is meant by "diamond it"? And once I know I am open for throttle ...it's FULL throttle, correct? Thanks.

Columbus, Indiana 619	Dec 23 2010, 11:33 AM #26 Choate51 Bronze Member How 'bout these MS paint skills LOL

SoCal, USA 522	Dec 23 2010, 11:40 AM #27 chriz00 You... what have you done ^^haha, thanks ...will try later.

Columbus, Indiana 619	Dec 23 2010, 11:43 AM #29 Choate51 Bronze Member To over come the understeer issue, I am sure some are using the E-brake (i don't) others trail brake into the corner and right when the rear wheels start to slide just a wii bit turn the wheel and try and time it to get the back end to help us.

Arizona 28,355	Dec 23 2010, 11:44 AM #30 R1600Turbo Austin: Trip Complete Online Now! ^^^ That about sums it up.

Boston, MA, USA 615	Dec 23 2010, 11:59 AM #31 blindsidefive0 Bronze Member I will never restart because you waste a full lap. However, I have come w/in 0.1s of my fast lap at Cape and Rome on an out-lap - that just means that I am slower than myself...or something like that.

Columbus, Indiana 619	Dec 23 2010, 12:07 PM #33 Choate51 Bronze Member I haven't noticed a lick of difference with the tires from lap 1 to 50, that's how long my last run here was.

Arizona 28,355	Dec 23 2010, 12:08 PM #34 R1600Turbo Austin: Trip Complete Online Now! Technically they get warmer, creating more grip. (Supposed to) Edit: I wish we could turn off the split times on the screen. I don't want to know if I'm behind or ahead each lap. Messes me up.

New York City 85	Dec 23 2010, 1:43 PM #37 HeroPride Junior Member Wow thank you guys, i been restarting in 1st/2ND lap all the time because I crashed. Ill try this tonight because last night on cape ring i kept on going so thats why my times got better.

Virginia USA 1,913	Dec 23 2010, 2:29 PM #38 SuperCobraJet Diamond Member Maybe its just me, but it appears that once you get down around 1:06 flat you will have to employ less TCS or ABS and turn the car with the brake or gas, to improve time from that point down into the 1:05s. What do some of you 1:05ers think?

ATHENS GREECE 57	Dec 23 2010, 3:02 PM #40 GEORGE_GR33 Junior Member Hi guys, you are very lucky to have the academy. I’m stuck with bspec instead. I tried this combo in practice for about an hour, just to remember how it is to drive and I did 1.05.390.I see a time under 1.04.9xx , maybe under .8xx.Good luck to all George Last edited by GEORGE_GR33; Dec 23 2010 at 3:10 PM.