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Jan 11 2012, 4:19 PM #321
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What are the odds that he can get back at all this year?
None.

There is no way he will be able to get fit enough, let alone have any pace at all to challenge any driver for any seat.

We'll have to wait for 2013 I guess, but I'm not expecting much from him anymore, as much as I wanted him to bring home a title.
   
 
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Jan 11 2012, 4:33 PM #322
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He's needs to be locked in a padded room so he can't injure himself.
   
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Jan 11 2012, 5:01 PM #323
prisonermonkeys Tom B. Raider
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He has done it again, Kubica has fractured his leg after falling on ice: http://thef1times.com/news/display/05243#page_top
According to the latest reports, his injuries are not nearly as severe enough as first reported. It would seem he has just broken his ankle, which is bad enough - but he hasn't re-opened the fracture in his tibia.
   
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WalesLL57
Jan 11 2012, 5:15 PM #324
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Kubica's turning into a right sicknote. He needs to stop hanging around with Darren Anderton!

[/British sport humour]

If he sits out 2012 as well, he will have missed 2 seasons with little or no motorsport practice during that time. Once tipped as the next Ferrari #2, it's looking less and less likely. Especially with Perez on the rise.

So if he comes back, eventually, and it's not Renault. Where could he get a drive? I'm thinking Sauber or Williams.
   
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Jan 11 2012, 5:18 PM #325
prisonermonkeys Tom B. Raider
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Once tipped as the next Ferrari #2, it's looking less and less likely.
When he's ready, he can drive a 2010 Ferrari around to his heart's content. If Raikkonen cn do it for Lotus, Kubica can do it for anyone.
   
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WalesLL57
Jan 11 2012, 5:23 PM #326
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Do you think they'll sign him though?

I feel that Perez is the more likely candidate.
   
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Jan 11 2012, 5:23 PM #327
prisonermonkeys Tom B. Raider
I have no idea. A lot depends on his recovery.
   
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WalesLL57
Jan 11 2012, 5:25 PM #328
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Perez -> Ferrari
Kubica -> Sauber
Massa -> Out in the cold.

Perhaps. We'll see.
   
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Jan 11 2012, 11:57 PM #329
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Fracking cracking gor-damned WHAT?!?

Poor Kubica!
   
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Jan 12 2012, 11:10 PM #330
jcm Cliff 'em All
If Kubica makes enough of a recovery to drive sometime in 2012, he might get a testing role at Ferrari. If his pace in Friday practice is still quick then Ferrari will probably sign him to replace Massa. If it's not quick, they'll probably take Perez.
   
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No Country SpecifiedThe Sun
Jan 13 2012, 12:38 AM #331
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!!!!!Kubica!!! You know what i am going to say. This man!! Why does everything go wrong!!! First when he was young and broke his arm? Then F1 canada, Then Rally, Now this......
   
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Feb 29 2012, 3:14 PM #332
Alex. In Absentia
This is an interview from a friend of mine talking about Kubica. They raced together in lower formula, and this interview does not show him in a wholly positive light. Interesting.

http://robertscomeback.blogspot.com/...s-kubicas.html
   
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Feb 29 2012, 6:48 PM #333
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Alonso-level temper and diva-ishness along with the possibility that he probably has Alonso-level talent? I'd say that paints him pretty positively.
   
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Feb 29 2012, 6:50 PM #334
jcm Cliff 'em All
I'd say that article was pretty positive aswell. And besides, people change. He seems like a pretty cool guy now, and he's got Alonso talent. Pretty good
   
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Feb 29 2012, 7:33 PM #335
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This is an interview from a friend of mine talking about Kubica. They raced together in lower formula, and this interview does not show him in a wholly positive light. Interesting.

http://robertscomeback.blogspot.com/...s-kubicas.html
Ex-teammate be-moans superior equipment and "what I coulda shoulda". No offense but this kind of thing is repeated up and down motorsport all the time, excuse me while I roll my eyes.
I have no doubt that Kubica probably did benefit from better equipment most of the time, but thats just how motorsport is - that doesn't paint Kubica in a bad light and half of the negativity in that interview comes from the interviewee moaning about inferior equipment.
If you pay more money or know wealthier or more powerful people, you get the better engineers, equipment, special access, etc. Frustrating, yes, but I wouldn't put it against Kubica that he took advantage of this as a million other drivers would do the same thing.

In the end, Kubica still has to show his talent relative the equipment and opportunities that he gets. And as that interview also concludes - there is little doubt that Kubica is talented, certainly good enough for F1.
Last edited by Ardius; Feb 29 2012 at 7:40 PM.
   
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EnglandOxford
Feb 29 2012, 7:45 PM #336
Alex. In Absentia
As stated in the article there is no doubt that Kubica is a very talented driver. I thought it might be interesting for members less in the know than yourself to see how racing in the lower formulae isn't as straight forward as it often seems.
   
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United KingdomManchester
Feb 29 2012, 8:00 PM #337
Ardius Kobayashi fan
I just find it a little tiresome for many racing drivers when they are asked about their famous ex-teammate to then resort to the typical "woulda coulda shoulda" stuff. Kind of like your grandad telling you his 20th outlandish tale when he was a lad and how he was in the same class as some famous person.

While it would also be boring if every driver simply paid compliments and didn't tell us any of this, I certainly get the impression more often than not that these drivers simply haven't accepted what happened and moved on. Like its their excuse for everything and their example of how they are better than they might seem.

Not that I'm suggesting all of this applies to your mate but there are some out there that give this impression. Certainly though there is also the point that you are obviously going to sound like you are living in the past if you are always asked about it! And so I should also say that its not the driver's fault if they are constantly asked about their famous ex-teammates!

For example, I feel that Martin Brundle only talks about his time as rival to Ayrton Senna when its brought up. But he seems to talk about his time as team-mate to Schumacher quite regularly, with a slight tinge of jealousy or frustration at what could have been (particularly Spa 1992). People forget that Brundle was once team-mate to Schumacher (mostly because Schumacher very rarely was given a team-mate to remember!) and so I get this sense Martin is rarely asked about it but he regularly brings it up.
Sometimes when he brings 1992 up again, I wish he would just get over it and move on. He has proved himself plenty of times elsewhere that he really doesn't need to keep referring to his time against Michael, though I can certainly understand the frustration of missing out on what could have been his first ever GP win.

I think basically it just seems like cheap excuses and a constant focus on where said driver felt they showed their best when in reality they really don't need to focus on the moment when they were supposedly unfairly beaten by a famous driver.

I'd also add-on that perhaps it would be a better balanced interview if we heard about what Fernando Rees feels is his best racing moments and successes are rather than to focus most of the interview on Robert Kubica which is inevitably going to bring out some of the negativity. Its like getting an interview with Felipe Massa and then asking him what he thinks about Lewis Hamilton...
Last edited by Ardius; Feb 29 2012 at 8:16 PM.
   
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Feb 29 2012, 8:18 PM #338
niky Karma Chameleon
There's no doubt being better prepared, better funded and better supported is preferable if you want to get results... but such stories, even if true, merely point to the fact that Kubica is just like many of the "greats", like Schumacher, Alonso or Senna... they can't accept losing.

And not being able to accept that, they do absolutely everything in their power to win. If that includes stealing set-ups or pushing your team to work 24 hour shifts to fix the car to your liking, then that's what you will do.

This all-or-nothing determination is what marks a winner and a potential world champion.
   
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AustraliaDown under
Feb 29 2012, 8:22 PM #339
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I just find it a little tiresome for many racing drivers when they are asked about their famous ex-teammate to then resort to the typical "woulda coulda shoulda" stuff. .
*looks forward to Rubinho's autobiography*

   
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EnglandOxford
Feb 29 2012, 8:47 PM #340
Alex. In Absentia
I always felt that he was really pissed off by not making it to F1 but not really any more. The thing he seems most bitter about is he got a seat in the ASM F3 team fairly and then had to vacate the seat for Hamilton as Dennis chose that team for him. I mean sure you're bound to be angry but he's only just 27 now so plenty of time to deal with it

It must suck to truly believe you are as good as those guys on the TV every fortnight winning the hearts of fans.
   

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