[Jump_Ace]

:: GTP_Online Monthly Race Series ::

:: Official GTP_OMRS Discussion Thread ::

:: Open Discussion for Matters Related to the GTP_OMRS ::

Here is some general information on what you can expect from the GTP_OMRS with regards to the event settings, frequency and such:

- First and foremost, since this is an official GTPlanet event, the etiquette of the race room/lobby follows the same standards in the Acceptable Usage Policy.

- You must also race using your GTP_Account, users that enter the lobby without their GTP_ name will automatically get booted from the race room to ensure GTP_ members get priority.

- We will start running the GTP_OMRS series beginning on March 12th and will be the first Saturday (GMT -8) of each month thereafter. Do note that the races are scheduled at GMT -8, check out this Site if you need help in verifying what time the race starts.

Official Race Stewards And Designated Times:

GTP_Jump_Ace | 10AM, 11AM (GMT -8)
GTP_Animera | 12PM, 1PM (GMT -8)
GTP_Steven | 2PM, 3PM (GMT -8)
GTP_Small_Fryz | 4PM, 5PM (GMT -8)

Official Race Steward Alternates:
GTP_Shigegaki
GTP_Mafiaboy
GTP_PK_090

Tentative Race Event Dates Of 2011. These dates are subject to change, but we will give as much notice as we can on any changed dates. Be sure the check the GTP_OMRS Thread.

- April 2nd, 2011

- May 7th, 2011

- June 4th, 2011

- July 2nd, 2011

- August 6th, 2011

- September 3rd, 2011

- October 1st, 2011

- November 5th, 2011

- December 3rd, 2011


- You can pick from any of the time slots that work for you. We ask that you only race in one of the time slots to allow others an opportunity to race.

- Each time slot will have two races. Each race session will start about 15 minutes after at the designated time to allow warm up laps. The race will be approximately 30 minutes long, which leaves around 10 min for the Race Stewards to wrap up, gather results, etc.

- The second race will start at the top of the next hour. When each race is finished, we ask that you leave the race room so the next set of drivers can join.

- Race Stewards can only race in one of the two races if they prefer.

- Race specifics won't be given out ahead of time, drivers will only know what car to use. The car for the next month's race will be posted at the end of the current month's race specifics.

- Premium cars will be used for the first 6 to 9 events to give people more time to finish the game and build their used car garage.

- Typically we will use a fastest to slowest starting grid format.

- The False Start Penalty will always be on.

- Skid Recovery will Always be set to off.

- We will try to give drivers who may have missed last month's event priority for the next event, but no guarantees.

- Race Stewards will be setting up identical race rooms so everyone will get to run the same race for the event.

- Race Stewards will be saving every race replay and will use it to verify any member who isn't following the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules &Guidelines.

- Any disputes should be resolved between the drivers via PM. Race Stewards will be keeping an eye out, but can't be everywhere and will be looking for intentional malicious incidents. Only notify a Race Steward of a situation if it can't be resolved amongst yourselves.

- Any infractions that occur during a GTP_OMRS event will count as an infraction in the GTP_Registry Disciplinary Log; 3 Strikes accumulated there and you are out of the registry.

- We also ask that you be patient when driving, don't get offended or upset because someone nudged you a little or is drafting you.

Race clean, race hard

[Jump_Ace]

Ren-Tec

Hi Jerome and Duke

I have a few questions about section 01:k and section 13.
01:k- Now I've found that if you press start the car goes into auto-pilot and heads for the pits very slowly. Would it not be bettet to press and hold the hand brake (e-brake), then the car will not move at all?
13:- When racing I use bumper cam and for the most part don't know if I have ghosted or not during a race. My question is how do you know?

Cheers
Mike

I'll try and answer your question here Mike.

01:K - You may be right about pressing the E-Brake and then press pause and the car may not move, I'll double check that.

13 - As far as GT5P went, everyone can see a car that is ghosted so they can be aware of the situation. They should also see the car flickering between Ghosted and Not-Ghosted as well. If you're car is the one flickering, it's up to you to safely return to the track by taking a safer driving line (outside of a turn for example).

Jerome

[Silver-Sylph]

For the first question you can simply just wait until you have entered your pit stall and press start and you will sit there until you unpause the game.

[Paulie]

Oh please don't let there be any karting, the slipstreaming is so rediculous it's like an oval race, there's no skill involved in who wins it's all just luck of who gets the slipstream benefit at the finish line.

[Barra333]

Ren-Tec

I have a few questions about section 01:k and section 13.
01:k- Now I've found that if you press start the car goes into auto-pilot and heads for the pits very slowly. Would it not be bettet to press and hold the hand brake (e-brake), then the car will not move at all?
13:- When racing I use bumper cam and for the most part don't know if I have ghosted or not during a race. My question is how do you know?

Cheers
Mike

FWIW, here is my opinion. You would hope that in a GTP event, the competitors are consideate enough to drive the whole race to the best of their ability, largely negating the first point.

01:k Im pretty certain that you don't ghost when you hit start while on track. Wouldnt the best solution to just be either drive to the pits yourself and hit start (as mentioned by Silver-Sylph), or to just park the car against a wall where it wont roll anywhere and not push start. Then car wont do anything without user input. With the added bonus that if penalties are on, the car will ghost once it is a lap down.

13: Im in the same boat. A bumper cam driver has no way of knowing if they are a ghost themselves. Easy solution here is to assume you arent, and use the track map/rearview mirror to avoid potential trouble

[Ren-Tec]

Thanks Jerome

Ps Barra333 , I didn't ask you the question but thanks anyway.


Mike

[Jump_Ace]

No prob Mike,

I'm going to verify and test these ghost options as I haven't been able to yet as I've been doing some admin work for the series. But I'll do it soon.

If a change to the rules is needed, I'll consult with the other GTP Race Admin members so they are aware as well.

EDIT: I've done some tests and here are my findings:

01:K - Pull over off the course, out of the way, press and hold the E-Brake button, then press start and your car will automatically be 'ghosted'

13 - Your car does not ghost when you have been lapped by other drivers. However, others will see that your car is ghosted. It will help to use the roof, chase cam or cockpit view if others are noticing your car ghost a lot, that way both parties are aware of a possible situation.

I'll check with the GTP Race Admin Team and see what they think of modifying those rules.

Jerome

[Captain Roh]

Probably a very stupid question but, as I'm in the UK, I just add 8 to the specified time correct?

Ie races hosted by Fuzzy would be 10 and 11pm UK time

[Jump_Ace]

Captain Roh

Probably a very stupid question but, as I'm in the UK, I just add 8 to the specified time correct?

Ie races hosted by Fuzzy would be 10 and 11pm UK time

You got it. So for example if your timezone is GMT +0 you would add 8 hours to the listed race time; 10AM (GMT - 8) would equal a 6PM (GMT + 0) race time. Where it gets tricky is the difference for Australia, as they will be racing on Sunday morning instead of some time on Saturday since their time zone is so far ahead. HTH.

Jerome

[jagsta]

This is awesome news, I've got little time to play gt5 and I've already realised I'm not going to be competitive in the WRS without spending too much time each week. This is perfect, racing you know will be clean with quality racers. It was worth doing the qualifier just for this. For the rest of the month there's iRacing

Big thanks to the organisers, good stuff.

[Captain Roh]

Ooh dates!

Are those new? I dont recall seeing them last time I was here.

Is now a good time to be putting your name down for a particular lobby? Or is that done when the first race thread is opened? If its the former i'd like to participate in the un-specified race steward lobby at 2pm please

[Jump_Ace]

Yes, the dates are new. You don't need to put your name down for a lobby, just type in the room number and join in with your GTP_ account. The Race Stewards will fill in the room number once everything is set up and then post that number in that month's corresponding GTP_OMRS (first) post.

Jerome

[Daniel]

Are all the times in -8 GMT? I'm a bit confused

[Akmuq]

http://www.geographicguide.com/planet/time-zones.htm

Add 20 Daniel. Or add a day and subtract 4 I think.

[Jump_Ace]

Awesome link thanks for that akmuq That's right, if you live in New Zealand and your Time Zone is GMT+12, add 20 hours from the listed race slots (it would be sometime early Sunday for you).

Jerome

[Lyvan]

This will be loads of fun!

[sideshowfrost]

Jump_Ace

You got it. So for example if your timezone is GMT +0 you would add 8 hours to the listed race time; 10AM (GMT - 8) would equal a 6PM (GMT + 0) race time. Where it gets tricky is the difference for Australia, as they will be racing on Sunday morning instead of some time on Saturday since their time zone is so far ahead. HTH.

Jerome

Give or take an hour for DST... which changes on the 27th. Stupid DST.


I've mainly been racing with friends, trying to take a similar attitude to your rules of conduct (i.e. clean driving). What we've found is it's actually better to disable the penalty system. Penalties work for shortcuts (though not for the rules you are enforcing: the game doesnt see shortcuts over hard surface as cheating - think of the massive cuts you can take on Monza or Sarthe), but the penalties are hit and miss for collisions.
It seems that half the time the wrong driver is penalised, sometimes extremely heavily. Even the shortcut penalty can be abused - it's quite easy to shunt (or even just hedge out) someone into grazing a fence and thus receiving a shortcut penalty.

If you have a steward per race, and are reviewing replays for infractions afterwards, then I don't think you need automated penalties at all: in fact you would be better off without them. They can easily turn a minor ding with no discernable impact on the race into a 10 second penalty on an innocent party that totally removes them from contention.

[DIA1974]

Can I just clarify (I'm not (yet) a GTP WRS member, but hope to be after the current open qualifying session) - the FAQ states:

A:
Whether or not you are using your registered GT Planet (GTP_Tag) Online name you are expected to follow these rules accordingly.

But the first post here states that you are required to use the GTP_ tag for racing. Clarification please.

Thanks

[LeftyWright69]

Whats up Jump, I want ta play......lol, I think I understand how this whole thing works. So are you going to bust this thing down into a Division competition or will D4 novices be trying to chase down D1 experts?

[Shigegaki]

I believe that this won't be a division competition, it's all fair game when we begin OMRS. It will give a chance for lower division members to compete in racing online against those who are in the upper divisions. It should be great practice for everyone, considering the fact that it's rare that we get to see our division 1 drivers out in the wild. For me personally, I have only gotten to race against GTP_Potatochip who was doing quite well in GT Academy on the west coast. We hope that we get a wide diversity of drivers competing in OMRS.