[Timppaq]

Thanks for tue great review, can't wait to hear more of the CSW

[VWMasteR]

How is the frex shifter connected?

[FatnSlo]

Great review! Thanks for this.

I was wondering if you could tell me just how much farther does the wheel stick out compared to the GT2/PWTS since the CSRE has a longer steering shaft? What I mean is, if you use the angled adaptor on your rig to mount the CRSE wheel, how much farther out (or closer to you where you sit in your rig) does the wheel stick out compared to the GT2? I am guessing about 2" (5.1cm)

[the_greeze]

Excellent review Thanks for sharing...

[Caz]

[DJ88]

Nice review. I got really excited when I read how the wheel's FFB is stiff and strong at slow speeds and then loosens up when accelerating. That's something huge that's been missing from other wheels. I can't wait for the CSW!

[cap6760]

very well done¡¡¡
I miss a test with more rally games as WRC 2 or even Richard Burns Rally (if you have ps2 edition is possible to play on a retrocompatible 60 GB ps3 as i own) .RBR with my g25 on ps3 is quite good and i´m interested to know if with CSR E or CSW is possible to play with. With T500RS not and that dissapointed me . So is just sold and i will go for csr e o csw if is compatible.

[cap6760]

Rally FFB is the worst part on GT5. Is improved with this wheel or not??. I mean should be interesting a comparison on few surfaces, snow, tarmar, dirt....
Thanks in advance

[-kj-]

Awesome Review! now I got to add this wheel to my collection.

[ilonioum]

Well done mate, I enjoy the read and glad that I will get this will very soon. Keep up the always good work.

One more thing though, it would be great to have a video review from you as it is easier to get the main points and also show the advantages in real life.

Cheers!

[GTP_geoff]

Great work, i really got a sense of how the wheel feels. I've had a T500RS for only 3 weeks, maybe that purchase was a bit rash? DOH!!!

[thehawk05]

VWMasteR

How is the frex shifter connected?

Likely on a PC through the USB. The only way to connect a Frex, SST or a TH8 directly to a Fanatec wheel is using an Interfaceone adapter PCB.

[MrFish]

Awesome, no doubt. But for that price, there are a lot of other things I'd buy first. Way out of my price range for a gaming accessory.

[amar212]

BLACK86

exciting stuff, what the counter steer speed like, obviously not as fast as the t500 but how much quicker is it compared to gt2 please?

The wheel is much faster than GT2, but the main advantage over GT2 is smoothness and strength of the FFB. As far as countersteer is concerned, it feels more detailed than on T500RS because of the additional strength of the FFB that you gain during countersteering.

Simracer92

nice review, thank you!
The cockpit looks very nice.. what's the price of this?

I am not sure, you can check it with directly at www.rinoseats.com. Since I am from Croatia, and Rinoseat GTR is a genuine Croatian product, prices are bit lower here because of the taxes and lack of shipping/export costs. But I think it starts somewhere around 250 euros, depending of the options.

KashunatoR

thanks for the review. it's a nice wheel but i strongly believe that the CSW will be even better for iracing, GT5 and the simbin's upcoming GTR3

As far as I know - and it would be great if Thomas could actually confirm this - CSR Elite and CSW share the same mechanics and construction. Difference is ability of CSW to interchange rim on-the-fly and actual functions you will get PC-wise.

VWMasteR

How is the frex shifter connected?

thehawk05

Likely on a PC through the USB. The only way to connect a Frex, SST or a TH8 directly to a Fanatec wheel is using an Interfaceone adapter PCB.

No. Frex offers Shifter+ in version without input-module (bare-wire). I used PS/2 cable that came with my ordinary Fanatec Shifters, cut it and solder it on the bare-wire of the Shifter+. Than you plug it directly into any Fanatec wheel (prior to CSRE i used it on my Fanatec GT2). With soldering of both wires you can determine your sequential-shifting style (down/higer gear or contrary).

cap6760

Rally FFB is the worst part on GT5. Is improved with this wheel or not??. I mean should be interesting a comparison on few surfaces, snow, tarmar, dirt.... Thanks in advance

Different people, different taste I find rally FFB in GT5 very good. It is definitely different than any other - especially RBR for example - but I always enjoyed rallying in GT series because of distinctive feel of FFB on different surfaces.

CSRE have one great feature which is very handy for GT5 rally - you can adjust FFB strength on-the-fly. Since GT5 default FFB strength for rally is very intense, you can play with the on-the-wheel setting until you reach desired level of both FFB and vibration without going into the Option-menu. Same goes for drifting for example.

If you don't like feel of rally in GT5, no wheel can improve that for you But I suggest you give it a go - it is really a very different from all other rally games out there, but there is something really special about it that starts to feel good once you adjust the driving style to its logic.

[porsche 9146]

wow, what an amazing review of a great product. I've got my test wheel sitting on my rig waiting for the arrival of my CSR elite pedals and clubsport table clamp, these impressions are making even that short wait nearly unbearable.

[superbike81]

MrFish

Awesome, no doubt. But for that price, there are a lot of other things I'd buy first. Way out of my price range for a gaming accessory.

This wheel isn't meant to appeal to casual gamers. There are other wheels that are designed with more budget-minded people in mind.

The CSR-Elite and Clubsport Wheel are meant to be the top of the line offerings from Fanatec designed for the sim racer who wants the best without spending $2500+ on a ECCI or other high priced wheel.

For me, the price of the CSR-E/CSW + Pedals is an absolute bargain!

[Spagetti69]

Thanks Amar. Nice to see they have streamlined the wiring to the back.

A bit concerned about linearity from Forza working fine without adjustment. I know it's down to personal preference here but linearity 20 takes away a lot of twitchyness around the TDC of the wheel. This is software related not hardware.

I would like Thomas's clarification on this matter if possible.

Thanks again for taking the time Amar.

[WildRun]

amar212 you compare a lot this wheel at T500RS.

So some quick questions: you said "I had a Thrustmaster T500RS for a 2-week comparison and testing in GT5".

Do you mean that it was several months ago? (and therefore no comparison test in real time)
What was the version of GT5 at this time?
On PS3 do you have try T500 in other games (Dirt3, Nascar 2011, F1 2011) with different ForceFeedback?
Do you have try T500 with F1 Wheel (because ForceFeedback is really different with this wheel)?
Do you have try T500 on PC with "Hardware Embedded Effects" (for example in Richard Burns, GTR Evo/RaceOn, NetKar-Pro or GameStockCar?)

[amar212]

WildRun

amar212 you compare a lot this wheel at T500RS.

So some quick questions: you said "I had a Thrustmaster T500RS for a 2-week comparison and testing in GT5".

Do you mean that it was several months ago? (and therefore no comparison test in real time)
What was the version of GT5 at this time?
On PS3 do you have try T500 in other games (Dirt3, Nascar 2011, F1 2011) with different ForceFeedback?
Do you have try T500 with F1 Wheel (because ForceFeedback is really different with this wheel)?
Do you have try T500 on PC with "Hardware Embedded Effects" (for example in Richard Burns, GTR Evo/RaceOn, NetKar-Pro or GameStockCar?)

Exactly, I had it prior to the Spec 2.0 update in GT5 and prior to the last T500RS firmware update.

Mr. Latte and other guys with the CSRE will conduct a full comparison of both wheels in the real-time, I am not able to do that before next week when I will finally get my T500RS for good. That is the main reason I somewhat sustained to make a deeper comparison of the wheels and instead shift my focus on overall feel and features-highlightning.

During my PS3 testing of T500RS no other game besides GT5 was supporting it. I have a plan of getting both F1 rim/shifter for T500RS, but first I have to cram another cockpit in my gaming room (that will be 3 cockpits in one room, smh).

As for PC, I am not a PC user, nor a PC gamer. I stopped playing on PC more than a decade ago, but I might come back once I see what ISI done with rFactor 2, that is the first PC game I am interested in after 1999. As I said in the opening of my review, it is only aimed at consoles. I leave the PC overview to some other members/users since I am not familiar with the current state of PC-racing at all.

[WildRun]

Ok thanks it's perfectly clear now & enjoy with your new wheel