[Liquid]

otakukid96

I'm almost tempted to forget Vettel and go for Pérez.

It's a more than promising start for Sauber generally, but Red Bull will have their day(s) over the course of the season.

I'm still very underwhelmed by the lack of Mercedes race pace. Even with Schumacher's spin, his recovery was somewhat lacking. But if they can nail qualifying, they could be on for podiums somewhere like Monaco...

[superbike81]

otakukid96

I'm almost tempted to forget Vettel and go for Pérez.

That's great that you found someone new to be a fan of but I wouldn't expect him to be in contention for a win any more this season unless we get another crazy race like this one. He will be very lucky to see the podium again this season.

[Liquid]

superbike81

It's funny how I get called out by almost everyone for blaming Karth for the Vettel incident immediately after it happened but now 5 pages later people are like "oh well yeah I guess he did move."

He was penalized by race officials who have access to much more video footage than we do, so I think it's pretty clear.

Welcome to armchair punditry. We're argumental, but it's all good fun.

[Jav]

KWZX10

And i'm really happy for Perez, today he showed to everyone that we really need to keep an eye (or two LOL) on him. Really proud to see his first podium, not the last one hopefully.

I think the rain showed us today who are the real drivers in F1 today and damn!!! Sergio had me on the edge of the seat for those last 2 stints! What a drive from Sergio, just wow! I just hope he doesn't go to Ferrari to be Alonso's little _itch...

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

superbike81

That's great that you found someone new to be a fan of but I wouldn't expect him to be in contention for a win any more this season unless we get another crazy race like this one. He will be very lucky to see the podium again this season.

Based on what exactly?

[Sureboss]

superbike81

It's funny how I get called out by almost everyone for blaming Karth for the Vettel incident immediately after it happened but now 5 pages later people are like "oh well yeah I guess he did move."

He was penalized by race officials who have access to much more video footage than we do, so I think it's pretty clear.

He got penalized?

[superbike81]

LMSCorvetteGT2

Based on what exactly?

Simple history. He got to and stayed at the front because of pit strategy and the fact that the usual front runners were either struggling with poo pit stops, tires, or crappy drivers who don't belong in F1.

In any normal race in normal conditions he would have likely been around P7 which is still a great finish.

[superbike81]

Sureboss

He got penalized?

Yes he did, doesn't matter though as HRT is a team of mobile chicanes anyways so it won't effect their usual P24 finish.

[otakukid96]

superbike81

That's great that you found someone new to be a fan of but I wouldn't expect him to be in contention for a win any more this season unless we get another crazy race like this one. He will be very lucky to see the podium again this season.

I have a top 6. Vettel just happens to be my number 1.

[DaxCobra]

If only Hamiltons pit stop went well...

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

superbike81

Simple history. He got to and stayed at the front because of pit strategy and the fact that the usual front runners were either struggling with poo pit stops, tires, or crappy drivers who don't belong in F1.

In any normal race in normal conditions he would have likely been around P7 which is still a great finish.

...WHAT!?!?!?

So the fact that Sergio pushed the tires further than anyone else, and still turned quickest lap times doesn't mean anything to you? It's one thing to have good strategy, but to have it and run fast to keep position is another level. They were quick in Australia, and the biggest issue for them was that Sergio ran a one stop unplanned. History means little obviously, if it was that significant, I should have expected a double williams DNF last weekend.

Fact is this isn't the case, we don't know exactly how good the cars are to make a broad statement like that. Also how do you know he would have been P7? This season so far is unpredictable, unlike last season where any of us could have regularly told you the top five with no issues.

Sauber are fast and might easily be able to take the fight to Renault, Merc GP and Ferrari. Same goes for Williams right now, but we wont truely know till the first major updates which should come at Bahrain I believe.

[Blaze_409]

Sauber wont be making a return to the podium unless theres more wet weather and attrition....

The Lotus, Mercedes, McLaren, and Red Bull have locked out the top 8 as evidenced by the grippingly tight qualy session...Top 8 within 4tenths. Everyone else no where to be found.

[Blaze_409]

chromatic9

BAhahahahahahahahaha!

[superbike81]

He was turning fastest laps because the drivers who usually do it were struggling for various reasons. He was turning fastest laps because he didn't have anyone to fight for position with the majority of the race. He gets within striking distance of Alonso and chokes and runs off the track. Put him in the position he would normally be in mid-race and we'll see how many fast laps he can turn when he has to deal with passing the normal front runners.

[DaxCobra]

superbike81

He was turning fastest laps because the drivers who usually do it were struggling for various reasons. He was turning fastest laps because he didn't have anyone to fight for position with the majority of the race. He gets within striking distance of Alonso and chokes and runs off the track. Put him in the position he would normally be in mid-race and we'll see how many fast laps he can turn when he has to deal with passing the normal front runners.

Hamilton had clear air, so did Alonso...

[mister dog]

tribolik

No he didnt... watch the video (tip watch the dry line)

Nope nope, watch the car at racing pace in front of Vettel, it accelerates out of the corner taking a wider line (slightly but still wider), Vettel couldn't take that line as there was a HRT in the way, thus not taking the best racing line having to avoid it.

Anyway doesn't really matter no race is over anyway

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Blaze_409

Sauber wont be making a return to the podium unless theres more wet weather and attrition....

The Lotus, Mercedes, McLaren, and Red Bull have locked out the top 8 as evidenced by the grippingly tight qualy session...Top 8 within 4tenths. Everyone else no where to be found.

Quali doesn't equal end of the day results. If it did we should have saw Grosjean on the podium last week and Shumi this week. Not the case sadly, we see that no matter the condition Merc GP cars rear tires lose grip faster than the other top teams, RBR don't have the overall speed, Lotus are on level ground with Sauber and Williams right now. McLaren is the only team that can sit there and say that they have constant overall speed.

Like I said this only GP 2 for anyone to say that they know how this season will go this early, is just doing the armchair routine. None of us know how it will go but as of now, it looks like a massive mix up. The only team I can predict on podium every week I think, is McLaren.

DaxCobra

Hamilton had clear air, so did Alonso...

Exactly.

Well people will just have to underrate these teams. If they do overly well by the end of the season and support them next year, I'll make sure to be quick about their bandwagon decision

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

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[superbike81]

LMSCorvetteGT2

Exactly.

Well people will just have to underrate these teams. If they do overly well by the end of the season and support them next year, I'll make sure to be quick about their bandwagon decision

Alonso won the race, and Hamilton was struggling with various issues, just like most of the usual front runners.

You won't see me jumping bandwagons, Ferrari is in my blood, my dad raised me around Ferraris, cheering for Ferrari racing teams, and loving Ferrari even when they weren't doing well.

All I'm saying is one good result does not mean the results will continue, especially in this situation. I once placed 3rd in a Formula Continental race and I was doing pretty damn well, you could say it was "the race of my life", yet I never was able to find that pace again. I had a very very good day, but I didn't fool myself into thinking that's how it would be from then on.

I'm not discounting Perez or his accomplishment yesterday, I'm saying he still has a long way to go to be a consistent front runner. I have no doubt he will score many more points this season, I just don't think he'll do this well again, not this season and not in a Sauber. I might be wrong, actually, I hope I'm wrong, I love to see new talent doing well.