Werner Winkels

Hi,

Today I modified my (red) Momo Force Pedals to combine with the 900° Driving Force Pro


It works great with GT4 P

The worktime is only 30 min.
Thereafter the Momo Pedal work with both Wheels


I think you know this, but to be on the safe side i want to point up again :

You must connect the new cable set parallel to the original.
After the modification the Momo Pedal-Unit have 2 cable set's !!!

( One for use with the Momo Wheel, and one for use with the DFP Wheel )

You must only to clamp the new cables in addition to the original Momo cables


The circuit diagram of my Modification


Sorry for my horrible English
If You have problems to understand , please send me a PM

Thank You .


Laters

Werner

Slip Angle 415

Thanks! This will be very helpful, after dealing with Logitech with 2 worn out Momo's - I'm left with THREE sets of Momo pedals!

The DFP pedals are working great now but are not as solid as the Momo pedals.

Polyphony001

I don't actually use a steering wheel or pedals but there must be some serious advantage to the momo force pedals if you're willing to change the circuit to work with a game when theres something else that is ready without work!!

Arwin

Obviously you don't know Werner ... He's got almost every wheel available for the PS2 and he spends more time modifying them than actually using them.

The (Red) MoMo's pedals are quite nice, they're metal and they can be pressed from almost any angle and are more comfortable and precise.

Buggy Boy

The Momo brake pedal can be made harder by putting a squash ball under it. I didn't do it myself yet, but many GPL players did that.

Werner Winkels

Thats right,
On the page from http://www.lugnutsracing.com is a instruction for the squash ball tuning :
http://www.lugnutsracing.com/pedals.html

Werner Winkels

Post 1 is updatet now.

Polyphony001

Mad. Absolutely mad.

Werner Winkels

Well, I'm must be mad

toler

Werner dein Cockpit ist DER Hammer

Werner Winkels

Thank's Toler




By the way,
Is here anyone that has conect the Playstation 2 with Homecinema / "Dolby Sorround"
I'm wold like to upgrade with sorround sound, but what dolby system I must have for GT3 & GT4 Prologue

Dolby Digital
AC3
5.1
Dolby Pro Logic II
...

toler

ja, ich hab die playse einfach an meinen verstärker angeschlossen - kabel auseinander oder extra chinch und ab dafür !?

dbarrade

So far GT only supports Dolby Prologic II...

Werner is obviously mad because he's driving that NSX in reverse up the corkscrew?????

I'm trying to build my own mini cockpit and mod my DFP pedals to mount them 15 degrees from vertical upside down so the action is the same as in my car, (up and away from the floor, not down and into it) as I'm not a ballerina and can't point my toes.

Does anyone on the Gold Coast Australia have a spare set of momo pedals?

Should I mod the momopedals rather than the DFP ones?

Has anyone done this kind of mod before?

MarcoM

Werner,

do you know where I can order spare pots for the DFP pedals? The little plastic one's I mean.

marco

Werner Winkels

Hi,

I`m not 100% sure , but I think You can use the 10K Pedal-Potentiometers from Logitech ( black) Momo Racing Force.
( without engagement )

A Momo Racing Force Pedal repait-kit, You can find by Digi-Key
In Parts Search tipe in this Part-Number :
963282-KIT-ND




Alternative You can try to repear the Pot with Caig Labs Cailube MCL :
http://shopping.netledger.com/s.nl/c...t.A/id.1751/.f

( A Superior Lubricant for Conductive Plastics & Carbon-based Controls )



Good luck!


later's

MarcoM

Werner,

thank you for your answer. I allready found the Digikey site via the wingmanteam site. Aidan from Logi mail me that the pots of the Momo R are the same as the DFP. So I ordered 5 sets of them. Should be long enough too outlive the lifetime of USB connections I hope.

With these spares the DFP should last a very loooooong time.

tnx again.

marco

Werner Winkels

You are to be sure that the Pot is damaged !?
( You have checked the Pot )

Maybe the Momo Racing Force & Driving Force Pro have a Pedal Problem with there Potentiometer mount.

I think the Potentiometer-Shaft is a little to lax in the hole of the Pedal.
( sometimes the Pot can to jump out of the fastener . )

You can see it nice in a gt4p Replay
Yo havent full throttle or drive with brake

If You to unplug & to plug the USB, therafter the Pedal works accurate ( awhile )



( At Your own Risk ! )
In the Potentiometer-Shaft is a verry small steel spring !
I think this steel spring isnt sufficient to hold the Potentiometer in right position.

Mybe You can try to wrap round the Potentiometer-Shaft with a little of parchment paper .




Sorry, I cant to translate in errorfree english



I'm upload a how to repair drawing for Driving Force Pro in next days


Laters

MarcoM

No, they work OK. But I know that they eventually will wear out. So just in case.

Werner Winkels

Hi,

Please Dont cut the Momo cable set
You dont must cut a cable !

You can connect the Driving Force Pro pedal-cable parallel to the original Momo pedal cable .

Thereafter You have two connection cables on the Momo pedal unit .

1.)
Open the Momo Pedal unit , inside You see the two potentiometers and the cables :
blue , orange , brown and Yellow


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2.)
Open the Driving Force Pro Pedal unit and remove the cable set ( black , white , green and red )


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3.)
connect the black cable of the Driving Force Pro cable set,
with the brown Momo cable (plug on the potentiometer)

connect the white cable of the Driving Force Pro cable set, with the orange Momo cable (plug on the potentiometer)

connect the green cable of the Driving Force Pro cable set, with the yellow Momo cable (plug on the potentiometer)

connect the red cable of the Driving Force Pro cable set, with the blue Momo cable (plug on the potentiometer)

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For information :
If You measuring the original Driving Force Pro cable set , You see :

The black wire is connectet with Pin 6 of the Sub-D/9 male connector

The white wire is connectet with Pins 2 and 7 of the Sub-D/9 male connector

The green wire is connectet with Pins 3 and 8 of the Sub-D/9 male connector

The red wire is connectet with Pins 4 and 9 of the Sub-D/9 male connector

http://www.beepworld.de/memberdateie...sh_small-2.jpg

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By the Way,
You can add a Sub-D/9 female connector direct in the momo pedal unit.

Thereafter You can connect the Momo Prdals with a simple Sub-D 9 Pin extension cable

The Pin's 1 and 5 of the Sub-D 9 Pin extension cable you must to break away


I'm have build in a 4 Pin screw joint Microphone Jack in my Momo Pedal



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The Driving Force Pro Wheel has a own power supply unit

If You use the Momo Wheel, You must connect the power supply unit with the Momo Pedals .

If You use the Driving Force Pro with the Momo Pedals, You must connect the power supply unit with the Driving Force Pro Wheel

( The Values of the power supply's are the same, You dont must change the power supply by Wheel change )



Sorry for my horrible english.


laters
Werner

VV

You can connect the DFP wheel to the Momo Force pedals without any modification.
You have just to make a special cable (DB9 male connector - DB25 male connector) like that :



The pins #1 and #5 of the DB9 male connector must be broken.
To make the cable, simplest is to use a parallel printer cable, then cut it and connect it with a DB9 male connector.