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No Country SpecifiedAustralia
Feb 04 2012, 5:24 AM #4981
swiftwilly Diamond Member
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Hmm, I've never messed with fuel loads and have never run out in a race... Does it default to full, it have i just been getting lucky?
I would actually put it down. Depends on what your racing. I know for the Skip 3.1 is the ideal vs the full fuel load, it means slightly fast lap times. The forums would give you a nice idea of ideal fuel load.

I bought and I am testing the Skip.
1. I can see why people love this car
2. Damn it is hard to drive
3. In testing, first day, 10 laps and I average one spin out per lap, ZOMFG!

Been watching a few vids here and there, I get the jist I think...DON'T DO ANYTHING IN THE SKIP. By doing nothing, you don't crash.
Last edited by swiftwilly; Feb 04 2012 at 5:48 AM.
   
 
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Feb 04 2012, 12:26 PM #4982
the_greeze Cookin' on gas!
tissimo View Post
Hmm, I've never messed with fuel loads and have never run out in a race... Does it default to full, it have i just been getting lucky?
^^ This made me smile ^^

Just done a Mustang race at Laguna Seca, took the lead after about 4 laps. Building up a nice lead with 9 laps to go (17L race) and then my spotter comes on the radio telling me I have 5 laps of fuel left!!! WTF?!

Note to self: When you change the baseline setup, don't forget to adjust the fuel load. I'd been messing with setups pretty much all day. Forgot to check fuel. D'oh.

Had to come in (obviously) and refuel; finished tenth. Ya gotta laugh

Edit: Nearly forgot. In my urgency to get out of the pits I managed to incur a pit-lane speeding penalty! I'm now about to have a lay down in a darkened room... Jeez.
Last edited by the_greeze; Feb 04 2012 at 12:38 PM.
   
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Feb 04 2012, 12:50 PM #4983
Patrocles Diamond Member
I had my first Radical race last night. Started 19th (out of 22 cars! LOL) and ended up 13th at the end (9 laps down from race leader) due to people dropping out after crashing.

It was fun except for the idiot who ruined the race for 4 or 5 of us at T1 on Lap1. Right was we are all going easy into T1 I suddenly see a car from my left fly by and drop right on front of me. Sure enough, he had too much speed for T1 and took out a car and started a chain-reaction! Then this idiot drops out of the race!


oh well...that is racing!
   
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No Country SpecifiedEngland
Feb 04 2012, 2:45 PM #4984
RobJackson85 Senior Member
Patrocles
I had my first Radical race last night. Started 19th (out of 22 cars! LOL) and ended up 13th at the end (9 laps down from race leader) due to people dropping out after crashing.

It was fun except for the idiot who ruined the race for 4 or 5 of us at T1 on Lap1. Right was we are all going easy into T1 I suddenly see a car from my left fly by and drop right on front of me. Sure enough, he had too much speed for T1 and took out a car and started a chain-reaction! Then this idiot drops out of the race!


oh well...that is racing!
Going to have my first Radical race tomorrow. I just hope I don't come across any idiots like that!

My main concern though is that as I'll be well of the pace, my driving line and braking points WILL be different then the faster people, I just hope they don't misjudge and run straight into the back of me! Thus taking me out.
   
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No Country SpecifiedAustralia
Feb 04 2012, 3:35 PM #4985
swiftwilly Diamond Member
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Going to have my first Radical race tomorrow. I just hope I don't come across any idiots like that!

My main concern though is that as I'll be well of the pace, my driving line and braking points WILL be different then the faster people, I just hope they don't misjudge and run straight into the back of me! Thus taking me out.
Good drivers won't, crap drivers will However in iRacing I find the majority of people play on the safe side.
   
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AustraliaMelbourne
Feb 04 2012, 8:15 PM #4986
Imari Diamond Member
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Good drivers won't, crap drivers will However in iRacing I find the majority of people play on the safe side.
Mostly, although I just racing the Mustang in the Mustang/DP series and got taken out twice. An unfortunate consequence of DP drivers being desperate to get by at the first opportunity and not leaving any room for the lag that is inevitable when I'm on the other side of the world from them.

That's pretty much the worst case scenario though, the speed difference between the Mustang and DP is huge. If you're in the same class then it's rarely a problem. Either people will be good, or you can play it safe yourself and let them by when it's safe.


And yeah, the Skippy is great. It's a prick to drive, but if you can be quick in that you can be quick in anything. I think that's why it's such a brilliant learners car.
   
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United StatesTexas
Feb 04 2012, 11:14 PM #4987
sandboxgod Diamond Member
Both daytona & watkins glen were the most incident prone tracks in the Grand Am Rolex series for me last season. It was a dice roll to complete a lap because everyone+ shows up to run a race.
   
United StatesJapan / Seattle
Feb 05 2012, 12:04 AM #4988
superbike81 Diamond Member
Turn one at Daytona coming off the banking is killing me. I either come in way to slow or just a little too hot and end up spinning. Best I've got with the MX5 Cup so far is 2:18 and the faster guys in my league are running 2:14's. I've got another week to shave a couple seconds off. I figure if I can stay smooth and clean the entire 90 minutes averaging a 2:18 I should place somewhere mid-pack.
   
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No Country SpecifiedUnited States
Feb 05 2012, 12:37 AM #4989
I think I was running around 2:17s in the GTC series at Daytona. I don't know how I'm off by that much either.
   
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United StatesOrlandoFL GMT-5
Feb 05 2012, 12:42 AM #4990
Jav GTPFIA GT World Cup
The 13s and 14s on Daytona come with the draft so don't worry too much about it.
   
United StatesJapan / Seattle
Feb 05 2012, 12:45 AM #4991
superbike81 Diamond Member
I think with some more practice I can get to a 2:16 this week. I've really only done about 25 laps total so far on the track, just smoothing everything out in T1 and the bus stop should get me to 2:16 no problem.
   
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No Country SpecifiedThe Sun
Feb 05 2012, 12:55 AM #4992
Blaze_409 Diamond Member
Same problem here. Turn 1 is killing me. I swear to you i brake the same point with same pressure, application, line etc....one lap its smooth the next lap I wipeout. even so sometimes i jsut go way too slow thought the corner and if try to go faster instant jump over a bump makes the MX5 go haywire and into the wall! My best is a 2:17.0. I cant understand how people are running 2:15's in qualy.

In the race miraculously i never had an incident at T1 but in practice is all hell.
   
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No Country SpecifiedAustralia
Feb 05 2012, 12:56 AM #4993
swiftwilly Diamond Member
Imari View Post

And yeah, the Skippy is great. It's a prick to drive, but if you can be quick in that you can be quick in anything. I think that's why it's such a brilliant learners car.
I still spin out here and there. Not sure what to do though for 20 laps. I am doing the whole throttling thing always on, slowing letting go braking etc, its a bit annoying. I would love to first do 10 laps without any incidents first, I still feel I am really far off How long did everyone's progress take with their Skippy?
   
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United StatesOrlandoFL GMT-5
Feb 05 2012, 1:15 AM #4994
Jav GTPFIA GT World Cup
Blaze_409 View Post
Same problem here. Turn 1 is killing me. I swear to you i brake the same point with same pressure, application, line etc....one lap its smooth the next lap I wipeout. even so sometimes i jsut go way too slow thought the corner and if try to go faster instant jump over a bump makes the MX5 go haywire and into the wall! My best is a 2:17.0. I cant understand how people are running 2:15's in qualy.

In the race miraculously i never had an incident at T1 but in practice is all hell.
Maybe try aproaching it as 2 separate corners, brake straight trough the first apex(white line before pit divider wall, track out to the edge of the track while still on the brakes, now you have a clean entry to the second apex(pit divider wall) hit the apex with while accelerating away.
   
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No Country SpecifiedThe Sun
Feb 05 2012, 1:48 AM #4995
Blaze_409 Diamond Member
Ok i will try that tommorow. I guess I really need to know where the bumps are in that corner.
   
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United StatesOrlandoFL GMT-5
Feb 05 2012, 1:55 AM #4996
Jav GTPFIA GT World Cup
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Ok i will try that tommorow. I guess I really need to know where the bumps are in that corner.
Also if you are using your deltas keep in mind that eventhough you may be red on corner entry it doesn't mean you're gonna be red on exit, slow in fast out really aplies to this corner!
   
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No Country SpecifiedAustralia
Feb 05 2012, 2:15 AM #4997
swiftwilly Diamond Member
wrong post. edit.
Last edited by swiftwilly; Feb 05 2012 at 2:25 AM.
   
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No Country SpecifiedUnited States
Feb 05 2012, 2:30 AM #4998
I think I usually brake and get to 4th gear quickly for Daytona T1, then back full throttle to settle the car before braking and down to 3rd for the apex at the pit wall.


I should be able to race Daytona saturday, I just need to get practice in. And quit putting in it 2nd at the Bus Stop.
   
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AustraliaMelbourne
Feb 05 2012, 2:38 AM #4999
Imari Diamond Member
swiftwilly View Post
I still spin out here and there. Not sure what to do though for 20 laps. I am doing the whole throttling thing always on, slowing letting go braking etc, its a bit annoying. I would love to first do 10 laps without any incidents first, I still feel I am really far off How long did everyone's progress take with their Skippy?
At least two or three weeks before I had any hope of running an incident free race at anything above walking pace. I'm still pretty average with the thing a couple of months down the track.


I've been thinking of it recently as a sort of reversed V8. In the V8 if you want the back to come around, you put your foot down. If you want traction you back off the throttle.

In the Skippy, you back off when you want the rear to come round, and plant your foot when you need traction. Which means when you go into a corner hot, your normal instinct to lift gets you in heaps of trouble.

Do play around with the settings, they can make a surprising amount of difference. Put the brake balance forward if you haven't already, that'll take some of the snappiness out of the braking and let you touch the brakes mid-turn. Then play with the rear bar. Stiffer bar slides more easily but also more predictably. Softer bar gives you better traction, but when it lets go it's much harder to catch and recover.
   
United StatesJapan / Seattle
Feb 05 2012, 3:28 AM #5000
superbike81 Diamond Member
I find that trail braking really helps in the Skippy.
   

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