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TS1AWD
Evolution
OldNov 12 2003, 11:32 AM
Check out this site for pictures... I cant for the life of me figure out how to work this damn picture thing..

http://www.autointell.net/nao_compan...er-300c-04.htm

Performance

5.7-liter HEMI® V-8 engine
Electronically-controlled five-speed automatic transmission with AutoStick®
Rear-wheel drive configuration
Short- and long-arm front suspension
Independent five-bar multilink rear suspension
Rack and pinion steering
Front P245/45R20, Rear P275/40R20 tires
Deep-dish 20" x 8" front/20" x 9" rear fives-spoke wheels
Dual exhaust

Amenities

Tortoise shell accents on steering wheel rim, shifter knob and door pulls
Heated leather seats
Leather-wrapped steering wheel with flush-mounted audio and trip computer controls
Tilt-telescoping steering wheel
Automatic temperature control

Safety
Electronic Stability Program (ESP)
Traction Control
Anti-lock brake system
Vehicle architecture supporting all-wheel drive system
High-Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps
Navigation radio with integrated six-disc CD changer

Chrysler's first production car with a tag over $50,000
Last edited by TS1AWD; Nov 12 2003 at 11:41 AM.
 
Duke
Believes in FTOD
OldNov 12 2003, 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by TS1AWD
Check out this site for pictures... I cant for the life of me figure out how to work this damn picture thing..
When you're on the other site, right-click on the image and select "Copy Image Location". Then come back here, and make a post that looks like this:

 
M5Power
Lucky
OldNov 12 2003, 5:39 PM
So, can we assume a class-leading 345bhp and 375 lb-ft of torque, like in the Ram 5.7?
 
TS1AWD
Evolution
OldNov 12 2003, 7:51 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by M5Power
So, can we assume a class-leading 345bhp and 375 lb-ft of torque, like in the Ram 5.7?
Im hoping some figures around there... I know roughly that the car is probally going to weigh around 4000-4200 lbs, and thats a huge engine to have in that car. The 300M right now has 255 hp in its V6, so they will be able to put out some huge numbers. I havnt been able to find any yet. I work at a Chrysler Dealership so I am highly anticipating driving this car since the Crossfire and Prowler are glorified minivans..
 
TS1AWD
Evolution
OldNov 12 2003, 7:59 PM
I did just read that it will have OVER 300 hp and OVER 350 ft. lb. torque .. as well as all independant suspension
 
M5Power
Lucky
OldNov 13 2003, 4:49 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by TS1AWD
Im hoping some figures around there... I know roughly that the car is probally going to weigh around 4000-4200 lbs, and thats a huge engine to have in that car.


It is a huge engine, but the output isn't that stunning - the best car in the mid-luxury sedan class is the Infiniti M45, and it uses a 340bhp 4.5L V8 which gets 333lb-ft of torque.

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The 300M right now has 255 hp in its V6, so they will be able to put out some huge numbers. I havnt been able to find any yet.


I wouldn't call it huge numbers, though it is a wonderful package. Though it is my duty to inform you that the 300M gets just 250bhp out of its V6 - 'Special' trim (with the standard 17" wheels and 6-CD player) is the one that gets the 255bhp.

Its numbers are only okay - both trims do 0-60 in about 7.4-7.6 seconds.

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I work at a Chrysler Dealership so I am highly anticipating driving this car since the Crossfire and Prowler are glorified minivans..
How can they be glorified minivans? They're, um, sports cars.
 
TS1AWD
Evolution
OldNov 13 2003, 7:30 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by M5Power

How can they be glorified minivans? They're, um, sports cars. [/b]
Because the Prowler is a slow waste of money that has the same engine in it as my dads Voyager, and if you have ever driven one, you will quickly notice that the auto's shift way too soon and the car boggs down to a slow crawl....and the Crossfire has a poor 215 hp V6 that cant push itself into traffic, with a fully loaded price of 40,000... I would rather spend 10,000 less and get 100 more hp and 4 wheels pushing me along..
The 300M has 250hp and the 300M Special Edition has 255hp... they are slow, I wasnt saying they are a fast car...
 
M5Power
Lucky
OldNov 14 2003, 4:41 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by TS1AWD
Because the Prowler is a slow waste of money that has the same engine in it as my dads Voyager, and if you have ever driven one, you will quickly notice that the auto's shift way too soon and the car boggs down to a slow crawl....


The Prowler actually used a 214bhp 3.5L V6 in 1997. From 1999 to 2002, it used a 253bhp 3.5L V6. Chrysler minvans, Voyager included, have never used a 3.5L unit, and if they did, I can guarantee it would have nowhere near 253bhp.

The 1997 Prowler did 0-60 in about 6.9 seconds; the 1999-2002 Prowler did it in about 6.1 seconds - not exactly a slow crawl.

And finally, all Prowlers were standard with an AutoStick transmission, so even if the 'autos shift way too soon', you could always use manual transmission mode and shift on your own.

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and the Crossfire has a poor 215 hp V6 that cant push itself into traffic, with a fully loaded price of 40,000...
The Crossfire's 215bhp 3.5L V6 actually does 0-60 in 6.6 seconds with the five-speed automatic transmission and 0-60 in 6.4 seconds with the manual. The base price is $33600, and there are no options, so I'm not sure exactly where you get this 'fully loaded at $40,000' crap, nor am I sure where you get this 'can't push itself into traffic' crap. Quit making things up.

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I would rather spend 10,000 less and get 100 more hp and 4 wheels pushing me along..
You mean an Impreza STi, which is actually $2600 less, and has 85bhp more? Or were you referring to some 315bhp AWD car with a $23600 base price?

Quote:
The 300M has 250hp and the 300M Special Edition has 255hp... they are slow, I wasnt saying they are a fast car...
You said it would be able to put out 'some huge numbers.'
 
Rumple Foreskin
Hot Rumpled Love Machine
OldNov 14 2003, 4:44 PM
Just saw a Crossfire up close today in a parking lot for the first time.



I liked the shape of it, the engine does sound a little weak for my tastes, but it definatly caught my eye.
 
TS1AWD
Evolution
OldNov 15 2003, 8:19 AM
Yea the crossfire is an eye catching car, I drove a black 5 speed autostick which wasnt very fast, you could break torque it and try and get it to go, but it couldnt even break the rear tires loose. Than the dealership got a white 6 speed which that one is a little quicker, still the accelleration needs to be better, it has a top speed of around 150, but from 70 and up, you might as well pull out a pillow cuz its gona be a while. Plans in 2004 are to supercharge it, which than that car will be quick and something worth buying...
 
Sage
OldNov 29 2003, 12:53 PM
Personally, I can't wait for the Dodge Magnum. It's not the most pretty thing, but a ridiculously powerful Hemi stuffed into a rather cool wagon at a price of $33k sounds like an awesome car.

The new 300C looks great too, aside from the rear tail lights, which don't really seem to fit into the rest of the general shape.
 
ShobThaBob
Diamond Member
OldDec 06 2003, 4:15 AM
The dodge magnum does indeed look cool. Question though, is the 300C replacing the 300M?
 
TS1AWD
Evolution
OldDec 06 2003, 7:42 PM
Yes I do believe it is... Chrysler is slowly moving to all rear drive cars...
 
M5Power
Lucky
OldDec 06 2003, 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by ShobThaBob
The dodge magnum does indeed look cool. Question though, is the 300C replacing the 300M?
No. They're aimed at entirely different markets, priced differently with different engines, and are on a different replacement schedule. It's a wholly different car, and they will be sold side-by-side, similar to Stratus and Intrepid except on a luxurious scale.
 
ShobThaBob
Diamond Member
OldDec 08 2003, 1:00 AM
Ok, thanks for clearin that up.
 
-Fred-
Safe Sex
OldDec 08 2003, 1:12 AM
Shouldn't it be, if we go by Chrysler's history, the 300N?
 
ShobThaBob
Diamond Member
OldDec 08 2003, 2:10 AM
Not necessarily. N sounds really bad. Then again...I dont think I have a clue what Im talking about.
 
-Fred-
Safe Sex
OldDec 08 2003, 2:18 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by ShobThaBob
Not necessarily. N sounds really bad. Then again...I dont think I have a clue what Im talking about.
In 1955, Chrysler came out with the 300C. Every new model after that got the 300 moniker, with a letter, in alphabetical order, excluding some uncommon ones (J,K,O to name a few), up to the 300M, in 1997. It'd be almost normal to name the new thing 300N, but then again, i'm not DC.
 
ShobThaBob
Diamond Member
OldDec 08 2003, 2:20 AM
Was the 55 'C a really sporty model?
 
-Fred-
Safe Sex
OldDec 08 2003, 2:14 PM
Well it did have a 300hp Hemi (the first ever Hemi, i think) so yeah, it was probably pretty quick, at the time.
 
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