Yesturday, I was playing on my secondary account during the update. Everything was fine with both of my accounts and both game saves. About halfway through the maintenence time, I stopped and decided to do the update. The update loaded fine and my secondary account loaded fine aswell. I then went to my main and thats where the problen started. When I go to load the game, it loads fine until it gets to the GT5 logo screen. It then starts this loop where it goes back to a black screen then back to the logo screen. It seems to be stuck in some kind of loop. I have seen others having this same problem after the update so I know its not just me or my game save, which worked fine before. I have tried everything that I know of and still no fix. Tried deleting and re-installing the updates and nothing. If anyone has any suggestions, it would be appreciated. Thanks PD for up my game save. Things I've tried to fix the problem that others have suggested or that I came up with myself. 1. Adjusted date and time. 2. Reverted back to 2.09. Problem fixed but couldn't go online because of the auto update. 3. While at 2.09, deleted cars, and other misc. things to bring my item count way down from it holding at 7000. Even got into a different car. Uploaded this new gamesave to 2.10 and still would not work. 4. Did the whole foemat thing and started from scratch with the new gamesave. Nothing. I may be leaving some things out at the moment, but I have tried everything that has been suggested in this thread and others to no avail. Fix For The Looping Issue At Startup After Update 2.10 zephyrus Tutorial to fix problem with 2.10 update. Your problem all starts with undeletable car/s which is in your garage/save game. The last place you could use that save was in version 2.09 of GT5? You need to revert back to 2.09 and do a few simple things so you can get your save to work while in version 1.00. 1. Don't delete anything, That includes any DLC. Nothing needs to be deleted. 2. Downgrade to 2.09 How to downgrade? Go to GAME DATA UTILITY select GT5 / triangle / delete. You now need to install updates to get you back to version 2.09. You could do this manually from the internet or use a version of the GT5 disc or Academy discs which has updates already on the disc? 3. You need to find for your ghost car/s, (Undeletable cars.) The cars are unable to be choosen, sold or deleted. When you find it or them go to next step. 4. Go to your GT world menu And click over the options / Design options / and change background color to the first one (BLUE) and Backgroud image to the first aswell (Afternoon one) This step is still under construction has some things could be tried slightly differently. http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showth...04#post8037704 But the main thing is that your save in 2.09 needs to be able to open in version 1.00 so things need to be altered to do so. 5. Again go to GAME DATA UTILITY and delete the game to go back to 1.00 version. (If version 1.00 does NOT work for you. You could try the first update which is 608mb and that takes you to version 1.05.) You need to use the First GT5 disc edition? (No other versions of the disc will get you back to version 1.00) 6. Enter the GT5, Say no to updates and go to your garage. Delete the car/s 7. Once you have done the above steps You can then install back to 2.10. _____________________ After completion of the updates and you have a working save that loads in 2.10 You may have to go through the process of updating any DLC you may have. Or any that will have the exclamation marks on them while in garage view. You can go to your account manager on your XMB and redownload them or re-install them? Plus you can aslo check by going to PSN store and they will be in your download history. So these items are not lost but just need to be reinstalled. Plus there are many threads on the subject on how to go about this so help is there for anyone who has problems? Plus its advisable to install the family upgrade pack so all DLC is available in all accounts. _______________ While you are now back in version 2.10 you may have a garage full of cars but the thumbnails look a bit crazy. Just click on the trianlge in garage view and create thumbnails for all, This will take time depending on how many cars you have. Ridox2JZGTE When going back to 1.00 or any older version with newer saves ( DLC cars in it ), be sure to change the saves Options settings beforehand to default like in 1.0. Your saves might have difficulty loading in early version due to conflicting options settings ( there are many options that are only available in later versions ) Also make sure the save has you using a car that is in 1.0, and turn off all favorites car ( if they are not in older version ). If in doubt while in version 2.09 buy a car from the car dealers "Alternatively if you happen to have a USB hard drive then make a backup of the PS3 hard drive with all the updates installed, etc. I have 1.05, 2.09, and 2.10 backups. Takes about 10 minutes to restore 2.10, about 5 mins for 1.05" Video instructions on how to find the undeletable/unusable cars. N.B. I've uploaded a short video to show my stuck car, its the Land Rover Range Stormer Concept '04 that I won from the IA licence test. (In the vid I'm currently "in" the car, but I got into it in 1.05 before the car got stuck, in the vid I'm at 2.09 and the car is now thoroughly stuck). Notice I can select/view/sell the cars around it, but the Range Rover I can't do anything with it. In 2.09, it's "stuck". I can do those things in 1.05, but not 2.09. [/QUOTE] Main credit goes to zephyrus for his hard work and dedication but credit also goes out to all the GTP members that have also contributed to this thread. This was a collective effort by all involved and could not have been achieved by everyone's cooperation and dedication to solve the problem. Thank you to all, I am forever indebted to you and will never forget the effort put forth by such a strong and dedicated communuty.