Mad FinnTuners Co.™ - Finished 301010 with GT-Rdammerung - BIG THANKS everyone!

Discussion in 'Car Tuning' started by Greycap, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. Leonidae

    between chair and G25
    PSN:GTP_Leonidae_MFT

    Alright, later today there shall be update with two new cars, and at least one of them isn't pretty. but who cares about looks when it handles well?:sly: and later next week, there shall be yet another car from a very popular anime that concentrates on driving fast in corners! and naturally the car is good in them as well.. ;)
  2. Greycap

    Premium
    Finland Finland

    Nissan 240RS Spec R '83

    396 bhp, 370 Nm, 882 kg

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    Parts to buy:
    Racing Exhaust
    Racing Brakes
    Brake Balance Controller
    Turbo Kit Stage 2
    Port Polishing
    Engine Balancing
    Racing Chip
    FC Transmission
    Triple-plate Clutch
    Racing Flywheel
    FC LSD
    Carbon Driveshaft
    FC Suspension
    R3 Tyres
    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Rigidity Refresh
    Oil Change
    Rear Wing
    New Wheels (optional)

    Suspension
    Spring Rate: 4.5 / 6.0
    Ride Height: 130 / 140
    Bound: 3 / 4
    Rebound: 4 / 8
    Camber: 2.5 / 1.5
    Toe: 2 / 0
    Stabilizers: 2 / 5

    Brake Controller
    Brakes: 4 / 7

    Transmission

    Note: First, reset the gearbox to the default settings, then set the Auto setting, and only then set the gear ratios.

    Gear Ratios
    1st: 2.724
    2nd: 1.937
    3rd: 1.507
    4th: 1.238
    5th: 1.050
    6th: 0.908
    Final Gear: 4.000

    Autoset 10

    LSD
    Initial: 10
    Acceleration: 25
    Deceleration: 10

    Downforce
    Amount: 30 / 20

    Driving Aids
    ASM Oversteer: 0
    ASM Understeer: 0
    TCS: 0


    One of the first cars to be classified as a Group B car, the Nissan 240RS was a really good rear wheel drive rally car but the widespread use of AWD quickly made it obsolete. On tarmac the things can be quite different though and that's the advantage we're exploiting with this souped up Spec R version of it, a power figure just short of 400 bhp can easily be transferred to the road and the low weight enables great cornering speeds. It likes to oversteer a bit for faster corner exits and is overall very much a driver's car. Not for the ones who rely on torque but for screamer fans, have a good time!

    Reviews:

    by Kurei
    by Rotary Junkie
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2009
  3. Leonidae

    between chair and G25
    PSN:GTP_Leonidae_MFT

    MFT X-Fire RC'04

    410 bhp, 541 Nm, 1156 kg

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    Clickable for full size

    Parts to buy:
    Racing Exhaust
    Racing Brakes
    Brake Balance Controller
    NA Tuning Stage 3
    Port Polishing
    Engine Balancing
    Racing Chip
    FC Transmission
    Triple-plate Clutch
    Racing Flywheel
    FC LSD
    Carbon Driveshaft
    FC Suspension
    R3 Tyres
    Weight Reduction Stage 3
    Oil Change
    Rear Wing
    New Wheels (optional)

    Suspension
    Spring Rate: 5.0 / 7.5
    Ride Height: 105 / 120
    Bound: 5 / 6
    Rebound: 6 / 8
    Camber: 3.0 / 1.5
    Toe: 1 / -2
    Stabilizers: 3 / 5

    Brake Controller
    Brakes: 5 / 3

    Transmission

    NOTE! First adjust auto, then final, and last the actual gear ratios

    Gear Ratios
    1st: 2.751
    2nd: 1.935
    3rd: 1.532
    4th: 1.208
    5th: 0.945
    6th: 0.760
    Final Gear: 4.000

    Autoset 10

    LSD
    Initial: 25
    Acceleration: 17
    Deceleration: 5

    Downforce
    Amount: 30 / 25

    Driving Aids
    ASM Oversteer: 0
    ASM Understeer: 0
    TCS: 0




    It might look like the old ClubSport from the Tuner Garages, but don't be fooled. This car is faster, nimbler and actually has divine handling. Agreed, it is not pretty, but being pretty doesn't necessarily mean that it's fast. It looks like squatting dog that's doing it's number 2 to be honest.. but forget the looks and drive it. It might change your opinion about american small sportscars.
  4. Kurei

    United States Michigan
    PSN:mcluvin93hatch

    Wow, not to tick you off Leo, but that 240RS looks like the better looking car of the two, with those widebody fender flares, etc, i gotta test it

    But first, i must find out how to unlock it :sick: (Any help ?, last time i tried looking up a car it turns out you guys just re-named it, and i never found it, the Lotus remember ?)
  5. Leonidae

    between chair and G25
    PSN:GTP_Leonidae_MFT

    I never said which one of them was the ugly one, did ? I naturally meant the Crossfire.. :sly: :lol:

    240RS will actually appear in the used car lot. it's on the rare side, so you might end up waiting for a while. I believe Greycap can help you with this.
  6. Greycap

    Premium
    Finland Finland

    It's more like "on the rare side", it's actually the rarest used car (on a par with a few others though) if you don't count the Black Beauties. Can be found on weeks 72 and 84 of the cycle. :tup:
  7. ImprezaAddict

    Colombia Bogotá
    PSN:GTP_Suitan (w/ an i), SultanRS4

    That 240RS looks mean. It makes you come up with logos or catch-phrases that are just in the car. I'll give it a run on Sarthe and maybe Nurb to see what it can do!

    Funny how everyone started their own tuning threads after this.
  8. Greycap

    Premium
    Finland Finland

    I would advice you not to use it on the Sarthe, it can't really shine there as the power is pretty low and the cornering capabilities can't be put to a test. Nürburgring sounds a lot better! :tup:

    Good to hear that I'm not the only one who has noticed.
  9. viperpilot

    Austria

    wow, two new stunning cars................i don't have the 240RS, so i only can test the X-Fire RC! review will come tomorrow or so.

    viper
  10. ImprezaAddict

    Colombia Bogotá
    PSN:GTP_Suitan (w/ an i), SultanRS4

    Its not about horses or cornering capabilities, pushed to the limit. Sarthe I or II are my favorite tracks. I don't always look for speed on Sarthe II, or cornering on Nurb. I enjoy the challenge of driving such cars.
  11. I tried out your Dodge Viper setup, and let me tell you what...that thing drives like none other! Gone are the days of me throwing out the rear end and piledriving the poor viper into a wall.

    The only complaint I have with it is that you guys made a silver one! haha! Dodge Red for sure!
  12. Greycap

    Premium
    Finland Finland

    I understand what you mean ImprezaAddict, but my point is that you're not getting the best performance out of the car on a course like that as its real home is in the twisty sections, changing direction time after time and shooting off towards the next corner.

    Good to hear that Rated ///M, the car was quite a success considering the starting point and the tyres used! Just checking... M3 CSL in full tune and R tyres without a wing, was that what you wanted?
  13. Frozen

    Gothenburg, Sweden

    I've tried out your MFT GP-R/X '99..

    When i first took it out on the ring for a test run i'd thought that it would be just like any ff car.. But damn, i was wrong..
    It was awesome..
    After some minute on the ring i actually forgot that it was an FWD..
    Loved the car..

    Keep up the good work, my neighbours to the east ^^

    But I also have a question.. where can I get that Celica '70?
  14. Greycap

    Premium
    Finland Finland

    Our cars aren't just what you would expect them to be. :dopey:

    For the Celica, you'll have to look for it in the '80s Used Car Lot. It's available only six times in the 100 week cycle so be sure to grab it when you see it. The weeks are 50-55-58-62-71-80.
  15. Leonidae

    between chair and G25
    PSN:GTP_Leonidae_MFT

    I'm glad that you liked it, and I'm willing to bet that you'll like the Celica as well. They both have got some praise from testers too. :tup: but, should there be a need for custom tune-up, PM me the details and I'll get on it.
  16. Frozen

    Gothenburg, Sweden

    Thanks for the details. I will buy the Celica as soon as possible and try out your settings.

    Hold out for the review =D
  17. ImprezaAddict

    Colombia Bogotá
    PSN:GTP_Suitan (w/ an i), SultanRS4

    I know what you mean. :) I will drive the car in Nurb and El Captian, those twisty sectioned tracks. I'll let you know what I think then.
  18. Kurei

    United States Michigan
    PSN:mcluvin93hatch

    Great :indiff:, another one i have to wait for, i want to test it now, not next week

    Hopefully its worth it :tup:
  19. Frozen

    Gothenburg, Sweden

    Hi.

    I've got the Celica '70 today and took it out on the nurb as soon as the settings was done.

    After half a lap I was in love. The car was amazing.

    I drove lap after lap and it didn't show any bad sides at all.
    It wasn't especially fast but the handling was the best i've ever experienced..

    Amazing work on that car!
  20. Leonidae

    between chair and G25
    PSN:GTP_Leonidae_MFT

    just how many laps did you do? after all, one lap at Green Hell equals 1000km on the normal road.. but that's what I call proper testing!:dopey::D

    but don't be shy to tell if there's something wrong with the car. all this praise might get up into my head.. :O
  21. Frozen

    Gothenburg, Sweden

    I drove 9 laps on the nurb.. :p

    There was nothing wrong with the Celica.. Not with any car i've tried your settings on :)

    You two deserves those good comments..

    I'll be in touch :p
  22. viperpilot

    Austria

    Leo, i tried your X-Fire and all i can say is WOW.............such an amazing car! the grip is endless, and the acceleration is also very nice. i did a 7'12 on Nürb, with not a perfect lap, and a 1'54 on GVS also not perfect, but good! i really like the car, well done :tup:

    viper
  23. Leonidae

    between chair and G25
    PSN:GTP_Leonidae_MFT

    well, it' better handle well, after all it has M-B SLK underpinnings for pete's sake! :lol:
  24. Rotary Junkie

    Premium
    United States Canton, MI
    PSN:RJs_RX-7

    Yeah, and we all know that the SLK outcorners everything :sly:

    Now imagine one with a stiff, solid-roofed body:idea:

    :crazy:

    Should be decent. But I hate the way a stock crossfire drives. And that is why I've never bought one.
  25. Leonidae

    between chair and G25
    PSN:GTP_Leonidae_MFT

    yeah, it indeed has been beaten by a big ugly stick.. but who cares as long as it's fast?:idea:
  26. viperpilot

    Austria

    and it IS fast...............well done :tup:

    viper
  27. Greycap

    Premium
    Finland Finland

    Funny as it seems, we are beginning to have a trend here...

    Leonidae builds fast and stable cars that are suitable even for beginners thanks to very docile handling characteristics - and many of which don't suit my driving style at all but still boast astonishing performance because of the immense grip levels. All the lap times in the first post are driven by me so I've also test driven all the cars. :tup:

    On the other hand, my own tunings are often pretty damn dangerous in the handling department, the Spirra is a good example and an even better one is coming up - and thus don't suit too many drivers so well but virtually fly in my hands. Loose is fast, at least for me. Definitely not for beginners, not even for faint-hearted veterans. :lol:
  28. Greycap & Leonidae, great tuning shop. I teseted some and I just need to set a little bit on the suspension to fit with my driving style.
    Just an idea, can you put 2 set up for each car, one with downforce set up/with wing and another w/o wing, because I thing not all people like old car with wing (like me). Just an idea. Anyway good job guys.
  29. Greycap

    Premium
    Finland Finland

    Great, a new customer! Thanks for visiting! :)

    I think that's not wise to do, believe me, these cars do need the downforce the wing gives. But if you definitely want not to have one, they mostly do have enough mechanical grip to do reasonably well without it so just delete the wing and the cars should still be drivable. Slower and less responsive for sure, but still drivable. The "should" is underlined as it's not a promise, every car has been built to handle well with the exact parts listed and you're "voiding the warranty" by driving them with different parts fitted. Feel free to do it, but don't come to yell at us if the car doesn't work as expected. ;)
  30. Frozen

    Gothenburg, Sweden

    I must try out that Spirra.. Looks good :D but I've never drive it before..

    It shall be interesting to see what it can do..
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