That was a good plot arc. ...but nothing that emotionally tense. I've got another one from Iron man actually. The scene where Pepper is in the office with Obadiah. That's 3. They tried in Avengers to achieve the same effect, but they never did. It doesn't really matter whether it's a group or individaul, they should still be able to make the group seem vulnerable to something (or humanity in general). Naturally. What I'd like from you is to admit that Iron Man outdid Avengers in every way. The goal was the same (I find it pointless for anyone to compare with Batman btw), but Iron Man was a better movie. More charisma, more emotional investment, better plot, better villain (and that's saying something because Iron Man's villain wasn't great as you point out). Iron Man beats Avengers at its own game. And that's nothing to be ashamed of, Iron Man is on my top 10 of all time list. You mean like a strong emotional or intellectual connection to the characters and their plight? I'm not sure I can handle more spiderman.