tuning car, need opinions.

Discussion in 'GT5 Drag Racing' started by gtmustang543, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. gtmustang543

    United States TX
    PSN:gtmustang543

    I have a 06 ford GT (prem) and i have been draging this car for the longest time. i had my car tuned for indy,, but wit the new ssrx i thought it was time for a new tune. but recently i started noticing people with the same specs as me handing my a$$ to me, so im wondering is there any room for improvement to get it faster? i recently read a post from Dr_Slump's Drag Tuning Bible, and it help me out ALOT, but im wondering, can i get this any better???

    Specs Are as follows:

    FULLY TUNED

    HP:882
    TQ:756

    1203Kg
    413.6 Driven miles

    1/4 mile: 9.302
    1 mile: 22.699
    0-60: 2.307
    0-100mph: 4.252
    max speed: never tried in this car and tune
    g-force: 1.25gs


    Setup:

    Tranny:

    1st: 4.312
    2nd: 4.022
    3rd: 2.922
    4th: 2.131
    5th: 1.577
    6th: 1.207
    Final: 2.350
    top speed: 149

    Suspension:

    ride height: -10f 40r
    srpings: 11.8f 11.6r
    dampers: both front and rear bound/rebound 8
    roll bars: both f and r 4
    camber: 0 both f and r
    toe: 0 both f and r

    LSD
    initial:10
    acc:40
    brk:20

    most of the setup is stock with only tranny tuned and minor tweaks to susp. i know there is room for improvement, but where? all and any help is appreciated!
  2. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

    You could add a wing. It helps a little.
  3. HaYaBuSa1340rR

    United States SUFU
    PSN:HaYaBuSa1340rR

    Add a significant amount of toe to the rear wheels... it will help you spin less and hook up better.
  4. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

    Here is a tune for a no stripe for you to use as a means to get going in the right direction- http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6609264#post6609264

    Compare the two and see which adjustments help you out. I'm not sure that the gearing is the same for these two cars, but just make sure your gears are tight with no shiftlag and you are not hitting the rev-limiter.
  5. gtmustang543

    United States TX
    PSN:gtmustang543

    adding more toe will increase traction? with my current setup i launch in 3rd because 1st is so long and 2nd&3rd are so short, should i try launching in a higher gear?
  6. gtmustang543

    United States TX
    PSN:gtmustang543

    but the 5 kg diffs wont matter? im sure it wont but still... also isnt the no stripe a bit weaker than the 06?
  7. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

    Actually, quite the opposite. Between the two (if they are equally tuned) the No Stripe would win.
  8. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

    If you want you can send me a fr on psn and we can race for you to see how the two stack up against one another.
  9. gtmustang543

    United States TX
    PSN:gtmustang543

    do you have any times for this car so i can compare to. or at least try
  10. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

    My last effort was 9.091 I think for my no stripe (with the tune I provided) since the update. Before I was getting 9.06x's. But there are times a good bit faster than that. I haven't got an '06 GT to compare though.
  11. dr_slump

    Premium
    Switzerland Switzerland
    PSN:the_dr_slump / GTP_dr_slump

    ...I see, an update is really needed, :censored:! I must find some motivation though.
    Why is your 2nd gear that tight? The gears are probably not close enough, tell me the topspeed in the top right corner. Sorry, but I'm not sitting in front of my PS3 atm.
    Rear max is good, but try a higher front.
    Front camber could help.
    You need lots of toe!
    Positive toe for the rear.
  12. gtmustang543

    United States TX
    PSN:gtmustang543

    I just did a 9.204 on the link for tune u provided. That was my no stripe, now my 06 9.284, also y do i read alot of post saying that their times were faster be4 da update? Did pd eff up?
  13. dr_slump

    Premium
    Switzerland Switzerland
    PSN:the_dr_slump / GTP_dr_slump

    Yes, the times are slower now.
  14. gtmustang543

    United States TX
    PSN:gtmustang543


    New setup

    1st 3.863
    2. 2.699
    3. 2.221
    4. 1.851
    5. 1.514
    6. 1.254
    Final. 2.457
    Top speed. 180
    Top speed in corner. 234

    Susp.
    Height 0f 40 r
    Spring 5f 15.4r
    Damp ext 1f 10r
    Damp comp 1f 4r
    Rollbars 1f 7r
    Camber 5f 2.3 r
    Toe -1f 1r

    Downforce max

    Lsd
    Initial 60
    Acc 60
    Brk 20

    Fastest time in this setup

    1/4mile 9.166
    1mile 22.552
    0-60 2.173
    0-100 4.085
    Gs 1.42
  15. HaYaBuSa1340rR

    United States SUFU
    PSN:HaYaBuSa1340rR

    Essentially the more toe you add the more tire is in contact with the ground... thus more traction.

    Try this...( you might want to use another settings sheet)

    Rear toe to 1.00..... 0.00 front

    Ride height... -20 front... 39 rear

    Spring rate... 14.0 front... 6.0 rear.

    Both dampers... 8 front....2 rear

    ARB's...6

    LSD

    Initial-5

    acc-60

    Transmission

    Bring your top speed on your trans (the selector bar) all the way down to its lowest setting... 149

    For the next part.... use the graph.

    Take your 2nd gear all the way to the left... (mine is 2.760)

    5th gear all the way to the right. (1.604)

    Move 4th gear to the right until it it becomes parallel with 5th. (1.933)

    3rd gear should be close... but move it to the right until its parallel with 4th and 5th. ( Mine was like 17ish clicks to the right...2.318)

    6th gear all the way to the right (1.346)

    Then move your final gear to the left until you reach your desired mph. (somewhere between 170 and 180)

    I just made that up on the fly... but thats the basic FR drag tune in a nutshell.. that will be $29.95 please lol
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2012
  16. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

    Lol, do you accept paypal?
  17. HaYaBuSa1340rR

    United States SUFU
    PSN:HaYaBuSa1340rR

  18. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

  19. gtmustang543

    United States TX
    PSN:gtmustang543

    So do these tunes work for any FR car in general or are they limited to the fgt?
  20. HaYaBuSa1340rR

    United States SUFU
    PSN:HaYaBuSa1340rR

    Suspension/LSD... yeah. Thats my basic FR set up.

    As far as the trans go.... for the most part. It will work for higher hp cars like an Enzo/Supra/Corvette/Viper.... but for lower hp car.... Muscle cars/ new Camaro... stuff like that... you may want to try and get them to leave in 1st.

    Its the same basic concept...First all the way to the left...leave 2nd alone... make 3rd 4th and 5th parallel... 6th all the way to the right. Always have your top speed selector to the lowest MPH possible. (note... thats how you set up a 4WD trans by the way...)
  21. MrMVP

    PSN:Hydro-Flame

    Nice posts it'll help people out.
  22. dr_slump

    Premium
    Switzerland Switzerland
    PSN:the_dr_slump / GTP_dr_slump

    Explain!
    How is that possible?
  23. Maccer_42

    England England

    Here is my guess on the way it works in GT5, It's because of the angle it acts as being like a wider tyre. heres a crappy image of what I mean, Imagine in the pic you are only looking at the contact area of the trye, if you add toe angle it gives you a larger contact patch.

    [​IMG]

    red line representing the area of contact with no toe angle, blue lines representing the area of contact with toe angle.

    I know in the real world adding huge amounts of toe doesn't work the same it does in GT5.
  24. kennyblanco

    Premium
    United States Fayetteville/NC

    Good explanation.:tup: All I know is that it works in the game. :lol:
  25. HaYaBuSa1340rR

    United States SUFU
    PSN:HaYaBuSa1340rR

    Basically... adding toe is turning your tire sideways... in doing so you get more surface area touching the ground because its no longer parallel with your direction of travel. You are a tunnel tuner... and as you know toe will slow you down because your fighting the natural physics of the wheel... witch wants to role straight. By turning your drive wheels in with toe... your contact patch goes from [-] to /=/ plus the forces being applied to the side of the tire -->/=/ ...Your basically using more of your tire because your dragging it out of alignment with your car in essence witch causes more wear on the tire but give you more traction. Thats the best i can explain it with out a bunch of physics mumbo jumbo lol