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Holden or Ford

  • Holden

    Votes: 209 36.2%
  • Ford

    Votes: 175 30.3%
  • Ford and Holden

    Votes: 64 11.1%
  • Nismo

    Votes: 74 12.8%
  • Erebus

    Votes: 7 1.2%
  • Nismo and Erebus

    Votes: 6 1.0%
  • Volvo

    Votes: 43 7.4%

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How do you even figure that?
1. a lot of the racing is done in the stewards room
2. the on track racing is boring as bat **** these days
3. its under useless management
4. there even getting pathetic with on track entertainment between support category events becoming a waste of money to go to V8SC events
5. theres to much politics within the series
6. theres to much team bosses consistanly whinging bickering and complaining because they don't like to race other cars
its becoming a total crap feast the only thing decent about it is having Volvo Nissan and Erebus Mercedes in the series and even no one knows how long they'll last with all this parity rubbish etc.... V8 Supercars are a bunch of one eyed money greedy scoundrels
 
1. a lot of the racing is done in the stewards room
Do you have an example or are you just going to say this and hope it sticks. We've got plenty of active members that already do this, so I hope you can provide proof/example unlike them.
2. the on track racing is boring as bat **** these days

That's quite subjective. I doubt you'll find too many that agree considering Adelaide, Auckland, Winton and Perth all had exciting racing and usually the only people upset are weekends Triple 8 wins/dominates which hasn't been as often as seasons past which were utter crap to watch unless you went and saw the fighting behind the two.

3. its under useless management

Subjective again, and probably bias due to your last comment about them leaving V8 power potentially.

4. there even getting pathetic with on track entertainment between support category events becoming a waste of money to go to V8SC events

Wow considering how much they cost when they came to the States compared to a NASCAR ticket pricing at Texas, V8s is a steal especially when compared to F1 at the same track. Also not sure how this falls under it's own section since this would be inline with point #3

5. theres to much politics within the series

Sounds like a repeat of point #1 and #3 mixed together.

6. theres to much team bosses consistanly whinging bickering and complaining because they don't like to race other cars
its becoming a total crap feast the only thing decent about it is having Volvo Nissan and Erebus Mercedes in the series and even no one knows how long they'll last with all this parity rubbish etc.... V8 Supercars are a bunch of one eyed money greedy scoundrels

Um yeah you just described all of racing, so not sure why you still watch any form of racing that is on a massive regional or international level. So other than the idea that V8s is going to switch and you just don't like that idea (because some how they'll be weaker?), you seemed to come up with these off the cuff.
 

And if engine configurations change... Helllooooooooooo 3.8TT!

About the racing this year. From Adelaide to now, the racing was only boring at SkyCity. All other races have featured good racing. Real scraps. Even the AGP. I'd say the enforcement of some of the nitpicking rules(touching cars during pit stops) may be the only things to boo hoo about.

Some people still forget this is Australia's top tier asphalt motorsport. Changing enginebtype and body style is the nature of Australian touring cars. Look at Touring Car Masters. To have 911s amongst 6-cylinder Chargers and V8 Muscle, the Group A legends... I don't need to sell any of this. Bring back the ATCC name and keep it as such.
 
Ew, no thanks.

It might be a touring car championship, but V8 Supercars are not touring cars - they are highly specialised and wildly different to the cars that ran in the old ATCC.
I like them because they remind me of the BTCC cars of the 90's (back when BTCC was good), but with RWD and some muscle under the hood. Hence my apprehension towards them moving away from sedans, which will effectively make them the same as most GT style racing across the globe. (World Challenge, Continental Tire Series, etc, etc)
 
The V8SC shells are clean compared with bolt on parts from World Challenge and aero parts from GT/BTCC/etc touring cars. That's one reason why I like the look of V8SC.
I agree with seeing them as 4-door sedans is what makes them stand above high go race cars. The RS6s in WSC were cool and so were the 4-door CTS-Vs(a bit squished but, still cool). Point being, I prefer the 3 box sedans but, if coupes and shooting brakes are allowed, it won't destroy the racing.
No matter what the name is.
 
Ew, no thanks.

It might be a touring car championship, but V8 Supercars are not touring cars - they are highly specialised and wildly different to the cars that ran in the old ATCC.
V8 Supercars where ATCC till 1999 though.
 
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Do you think I don't know that?

V8 Supercars are not touring cars. The category is a silhouette series - they only thing they have in common with the cars they are based on is the body. If not "V8 Supercars", then "Super Production Specials" is probably a more apt name ("Supercars Series" is too similar to the now-defunct "Superstars Series")
 
Do you think I don't know that?

V8 Supercars are not touring cars. The category is a silhouette series - they only thing they have in common with the cars they are based on is the body. If not "V8 Supercars", then "Super Production Specials" is probably a more apt name ("Supercars Series" is too similar to the now-defunct "Superstars Series")
Think about it, what series out there is really touring cars though?

BTCC, WTCC and V8 Supercars about the same level as atleast their Chassis are made in line to the production varient and the Shells are Solid, its DTM/Brazilian Stock Car that are well beyond what a Touring car is as shell has no solidity to it what so ever, and is basically a an Open wheeler with a Shell over it.

If your talking about Production Based touring cars, well your going back to Group A at the earliest.
 
Of course they don't - most production cars do not use chassis these days.

V8 Supercars might have more in common with BTCC and WTCC than DTM, but that doesn't mean that they are in any way similar to BTCC or WTCC.
 
Of course they don't - most production cars do not use chassis these days.
you know what I mean by that, as in Production Based then Modified from that.

V8 Supercars might have more in common with BTCC and WTCC than DTM, but that doesn't mean that they are in any way similar to BTCC or WTCC.
Similar as a touring car Chassis, but Engine and power wise yes, they are very different.

But the point still stands that ATCC wouldn't be an unacceptable name considering its Touring Car origins are similar to those with Similar names.
 
V8 Supercars is considering a name change from 2015, with the possibility of dropping the "V8" from the name.

If they go ahead with it, I think they'll need something to replace it. "Supercars Championship" is too generic.

I don't like it. The only reason I would see to do that is if they are gonna start allowing other engine type to be used in the category.
Or have titled as they had it in the early 90's but just find a new naming rights sponsor. "The PIRTEK Australian Touring Car Championship". Yeah that would sound good lol
 
Nascar style numbers for McLaughlin this weekend.

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Caruso starting from 2nd. 👍

HRT were lacking, hopefully they can find some something for the races this afternoon.
 
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Looks like a Red Bull lockout for race 1. Some hope for race 2, hopefully Caruso doesn't get swamped on the start.
 
Caruso just has to block if the RBRA are quicker off the line. He leaves the door open too much. Rick may move up though.
 
As Whincup said, RBRA had to make adjustments. Good for NISSAN to adjust get on the front row. Excellent job by the team. One race at a time.
 
Ready for the next race already...

Battle for 5th was more interesting than the winner.
 
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Battle for 5th was more interesting than the winner.

Wasn't it just? Really great battle, kudos both to Winterbottom and Courtney for that one. 👍 Looking forward to seeing how Caruso does starting on the front row. He was a cracking out some pretty competitive lap times back in the pack in the first race. Looks like Whincup's going to be very hard to beat though.

Great start from McLaughlin and Caruso.
 
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