Gran Turismo 5’s Replay Deficiencies
The recent 1.06 and 1.07 updates have provided improvements to many areas of GT5 and even new features which have expanded its appeal and accessibility. However, it appears that these latest updates have made it even more difficult to conduct a fair and clean time trial competition of significant size where adherence to regulations and restrictions can be suitably monitored and enforced.
Even now that GT5 offers private lounges as well as open lobbies with up to 16 spaces, there is still a place for time trial competitions, evidenced clearly by the fact that GTPlanet’s own Weekly Race Series for GT5 attracted 175 competitors in its first week! The enduring appeal and relevance of hotlap competitions is further evidenced by the enormously successful and popular first time trial phase of the GT Academy, still their preferred format for distinguishing the most talented virtual racers of a given region or territory. So what needs to be changed to keep such popular time trial competitions alive and fair?
In order to make competitive Online Racing time trials viable on GT5, to provide unprecedented flexibility for event selection while making significant improvements to verification tools, we as organisers need the following solutions added in the form of a game update -
• Skid Recovery Force (SRF) aid indicator visible during replays
• Performance Points (PP) of vehicle visible during replays
• Horsepower, torque and car weight visible during replays
• Indication of tuning parts that were in use visible during replays
• Settings/Options used visible during replays
• All vehicles from participants’ garages made available for use as Arcade Mode vehicles, without tuning.
With these additions, GT5 will provide the platform for OLR TT’s to thrive for many years to come.
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March 3rd, 2011 at 6:59 pm - #Berlino Bear
That list of demands is funny as hell. If you don’t do it, the bunny gets it.
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March 3rd, 2011 at 9:25 am - #Streaker
I would just like normal video controls, slow mo, ff, REVERSE, etc.. COME ON KAZ!
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March 3rd, 2011 at 5:50 am - #Rage0329
Better yet, have production car only. As soon as a part is applied make the car ineligible for competition, quick fix.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 10:21 pm - #Loren
I just want the ability to fast forward or rewind by an entire lap at a time!
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March 2nd, 2011 at 5:45 pm - #Ken Barth
What about the Monthly Race Series.
I understand the complaint by the time trial community; but is not a priority for me.
I am waiting for GTPlanet actual sanctioned races where I could improve my GTPlanet Registry ranking; rather than by racing by myself on a track; chasing a ghost of myself.
An example; when I am available I love racing in the GTPlanet Concours Club-it would be nice to improve my registry division and/or bronze, silver gold ranking by racing other GTP’ers
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March 2nd, 2011 at 3:53 pm - #SavageEvil
I don’t get why people on here are downplaying that things need to be changed, it’s a known fact that GTP does have a voice when it comes to things GT. If you have nothing constructive to add, don’t comment. This is incredibly ridiculous, grow up please why even be on GTP if you aren’t about positively affecting the game and the community?
Everything stated in the main post is needed, I was looking for it every time I watched a replay. I wanted to see the power, tires, what aids were in use. Also I enjoy the idea of having your garage cars available in arcade mode but with on the the ability to change the tires and nothing else. PD can add this, give us more customization. We must keep this up to keep giving PD more feedback that way the next time the build a GT game they will already have a solid foundation of things that are known to be accepted by us all as basic necessities for a GT game.
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March 4th, 2011 at 6:22 pm - #- SZRT Ice -
Not downplaying, just seeking to understand what makes one opinion, more relevant than thousands of others, wich in turn, seemingly hold more weight. I mean, cool idea, yeah, great, but I could imagine 10+ other things that are seemingly higher in rank with consumer demand. This seems personal.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 3:23 pm - #Roomboter
@VBR
GTP got over 400 qualified members. That not everybody participate in the same event at the same time ain’t strange. But over 150 participating members in WRS week 1 is a very big turnout. Aand besides that GTP isn’t the only forum that runs time trail events.
Thanks you
And PD will listen to there closed fans. The possibitly of saving while running a endurance race is on this way aswell, what people were asking for ;)
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March 2nd, 2011 at 12:57 pm - #eclipsee
Polyphony Digital don’t learn along the years (or they don’t want to) what the hardcore gamers want, in my eyes they are only focused on the big mass and on the selling, some time ago I had Kazunori Yamauchi as an idol due to his perfectionism but this isn’t the case anymore.
Since GT5 was released I expected to see in a replay what kind of driving aids others used in that lap to make a fair and a leveled playing field but they don’t listen anyone and I’m afraid they won’t read this text either.
It’s like praying in the desert.
I already gave my votes for this replay feature and if I could have more remaining votes I would add them.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 2:28 pm - #Timppaq
I agree.. they really need to see the two side of this game. One is what the casual gamer needs / wants.
The second part is what the old timers, who have played GT games over a decade now, need / want / would love to have.. it’s not more premium cars or anything that silly. It’s more what gives us freedom to enjoy the game like we have learned to enjoy it, or giving mor eways the enjoy it.
I understand the need to listen the “bigger audience” that makes the profit for Sony & PD, but in my mind they should never forget the core of their players.. many of us have been enjoying the series over a decade, we have grown with it. The things we “need” are much smaller than someone shouting “we want all of the Porsches!!!”
The thing I don’t “get” here… is that taking into account the scale of making GT5, the things we, as the “old people here” need.. they are really small. Maybe a few days work for one skilled PD worker. 5 years, still not a clue of what is needed inside the “core” of the fan base. We pay the bills. For over a decade now.
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March 4th, 2011 at 6:14 pm - #- SZRT Ice -
^This^
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March 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 pm - #PedanticNerd
The need for arcade versions of every car you own doesn’t extend to just WRS races; it’ll give infinite playability to GT5′s current arcade mode, which is disturbingly limited for a ‘free, unlimited race mode’ which it’s really supposed to be.
We need the same system as in GT4, where unlocking a car in the career made it available to drive completely fresh, stock and in any colour in arcade mode! Please PD, this feature in particular will certainly take one heck of a long time to implement, but it will prove so, so useful to everyone, as well as making the arcade the enjoyable, unlimited experience it’s meant to be.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 9:53 am - #Spaghettimonster
+10 for the last suggestion. arcade versions of garage cars would make ad-hoc online races MUCH fairer.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 9:42 am - #z06fun
I’m surprised this didn’t mention an even bigger problem introduced in 1.07 with various ghost replay files not even showing up sometimes when you are doing a time trial. And it seems to be very random, you can back out and re-enter the track and they may magically be available to load as a ghost.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 pm - #EDK
Hmm, haven’t seen that one yet, but I rarely run with my ghost turned on. Was that while you were running laps for GTA, or something else?
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March 3rd, 2011 at 1:49 pm - #z06fun
Yes I noticed it there, but also in practice mode. Some ghost files simply do not appear when you do the “load ghost replay”, and it even seems to vary by machine for me. They appear on one PS3, but not on another even when using the same game save.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 6:53 am - #Rupert
Remove the car gift restriction, this will not just benefit GTPlanet, but all communities. lol
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March 2nd, 2011 at 6:56 am - #Anghammarad
Why?
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March 2nd, 2011 at 3:05 am - #spyrrari
Great post Maz,
Yes,this IS worthy to be posted on the main news page because it is important ,not only for our own WRS,but also (like Maz mentioned above)for other communities who run or want to run their own fair(!!)competitions…
If in this way it will get noticed sooner by PD ,than job well done!!
spy.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 3:00 am - #GTP_roadrunner
There´s also an incompatibility between for example US replays and EU replays, which will not play on the other´s system. Got a US replay from a friend which is impossible for me to import on my EU console, EU version of GT5 installed. It only shows up on XMB, that´s all.
Does maybe anyone know a work-around for this?
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March 2nd, 2011 at 8:23 am - #EDK
Same issue was present on Prologue. At this point, you need to buy a PAL copy of the game if you want to view PAL replays. And, if someone has a download version, you won;t be able to view their replays either. Great point, and a “nice to have”. We’ve been able to work around this issue, to date, as have the other OLR communities.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 2:31 am - #Jamie
Although i do agree with this, and that it would be great, i do think that some people are taking pd for granted.
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March 2nd, 2011 at 2:30 am - #DGiant2000
Excellent write up Maz, hopefully this will create some more exposure for the problem facing not just GTPlanet, but all the big GT forums such as GTRP, GTHQ and GT5rs.
Oh and remember not to feed the trolls, people who have contributed nothing to these forums in comparison to the likes of yourself, Kev, Vaxen and Jerome ;)
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March 2nd, 2011 at 1:48 am - #Timppaq
Great post Maz! I’d still rather see the online TT leaderboards that we had in GT5p. Using Arcade mode isn’t my favourite option.
500 combos without tuning (stock cars) & 500 combos with tuning made possible would go far.
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March 1st, 2011 at 11:25 pm - #Apollo33
Smart idea putting this on the main page. Someone should also tweet Kaz the link to it every day till we get it. :) And after this I want some way of transferring the rest of my cars to my GTP account!
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