New GT6 Engine Sounds Could be Included in Game Update

September 17th, 2013 by Jordan

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Polyphony Digital’s new engine sounds likely won’t be included in Gran Turismo 6 when the game is released this December. However, they could be changed in a future game update, according to an interview with Kazunori Yamauchi from EuroGamer.

kazunori-yamauchi-thumb“I think I mentioned this in the past, but we’re really working to change the fundamental way that the engine sound works,” Kazunori Yamauchi said during a press session at Polyphony Digital’s Tokyo office. “Right now I have a feeling that it might not make it for day one for GT6.”

When pressed on updating the sounds via update, Yamauchi responded that “There’s a good possibility that we might do this.”

Kazunori last mentioned the game’s new engine sounds in my interview with him at E3 in June, where he confirmed the sounds in the game demos were placeholders, and that Polyphony was working on generating the sounds in “a completely different way”.

Kazunori also confirmed to EuroGamer that game save data from GT5 would not transfer over to GT6, citing that GT5‘s data has already been “cracked” and could lead to further compromises in GT6.

Night racing should be improved as well, as Yamauchi noted, “the dispersion of light from the headlights has advanced greatly from GT5 to GT6.”

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  1. HKSBro92

    I might the minority here but I’ll just be the patient one and wait while continuing to play GT5, forza 4 & horizon and soon Need for speed rivals. Thats all we can really do….just wait and see what happens. I might sound a little too optimistic but what if some how PD managed to finish the sounds before December and release the patch like a week later? It could happen but hey…lets just wait and see

  2. gtfanforlife

    So What…

  3. omgsean1

    First of all, I don’t mind about sound as I want to drive all new cars first then rest of them later with new physic like aerodynamic model, suspension model, and tire model for more enjoy experience.

    Second, I am not Deaf player, but Hard of Hearing player who want to play this and many games while I mute sound because I don’t interest about them since people are still complain about this game have bad sound. But not that true as we already know they have placeholder sound because many new cars are done with model and put sound sample from another car for few weeks or months depend on employees.

    • omgsean1

      Continue: Till PD will get real sound from car’s engine which need to close like intake, belts, pistons, and everything include exhaust note. However, that’s not easy to record all sound from angles because make sound sample take few days to weeks depend on cars which have different engine and exhaust does affect sound.

    • another_jakhole

      Don’t worry. I get what you mean. I’m sure others do too, but we’re all too busy getting angry at people to say we agree with you :D.

    • another_jakhole

      But yes, your second comment makes a very good point. The way the sound is produced in GT is advanced for many reasons. Now, PD just needs to “Hollywood-ize” them a bit.

  4. Orochi Jin

    GT series are going down AND FAST!

  5. Orochi Jin

    ARE YOU KIDDING??????

  6. COUNTERSTEER123

    Man this thread has turned into a complete bloodbath.

    • Inferno251

      You can thank the haters for this

    • Pit Crew

      Sad thing is some of those same Haters will atleast play GT6, just so they can continue to assert their negativity in the forums.
      If they don’t they’ll feel left out of the continuing conversation concerning what we like about the game, ideas for OL lobbys and OL championships, upcoming DLC packs, the physics model once we can tune our cars, Rally, Street & Race, Drag & Drift vehicles alike, night racing on DRC or Spa, and the hopeful eventuality that engine notes will improve, especially once tuning parts are added.

      We already know what they won’t like in the game so who really needs to hear that for the millionth time.

    • ScotteDawg

      I’d like it if Jordan, Famine or T-12 could work out who the major haters are and ban the from the site…

      Just saying.

    • racingRAW

      I don’t see why people feel the need to argue and complain about things that PD has acknowledged as being an area that needs a lot of improvement. At least PD is generally very thorough with what they do.

      If anyone here are Forza fan boys or anything else, there is no need for trolling. We all have our cake, and we all think ours is better than everyone elses. But we all still get cake.

    • Pit Crew

      Scottie Dawg, members get banned for violating the Authorized Use Policy, not for voicing their opinion , no matter if we like it or not.

    • another_jakhole

      But he means that some of them are clearly trolling. I hate saying that word and know it’s technically banned from the site, but it’s clear that a few people are here to only do that.

    • Pit Crew

      ^ I see nothing in AUP that states using the word trolling is a banning offence. Furthermore Scottie Dawgs OP is aimed at members for being disappointed with the news and thus taking a negative Point of View, which is not something to be banned over. Sounds more like bullying to me…

  7. Darkpitiless

    No reason to spend a penny on this piece of crap. I’ll be waiting for GT7 on PS4.

    • Technology is amazing isn’t it? A. Man has a vision. HIS vision. He sets about it for his pleasure and joy. Then wants to share it as best he can. He does it well and people buy into his dream. He makes improvements not at all thinking his dream is final. That’s what he chose to do. It’s all about the love of cars. If you feel it’s crap, know this: crap has fertilised many corners of the earth and many things good for us or bad for us, have grown from it. Peace.

    • another_jakhole

      @05XR8

      Nicely said.

    • sayba2th

      05, duuuuuude, getting waaaaaay deep love it. I will + 10 simply because of that. This is something I have felt since day dot. Think of a gaming world WITHOUT Kaz and PD yeah no thanks. We have him to thank for raising the bar in the console world as its us the gamers who win.

    • racingRAW

      05XR8, kudos.
      sayba2th I couldn’t agree more. I think people neglect the fact that Kaz and PD are perfectionists, and seem to refuse to include something in a game until they feel it is completely finished. People seem to be complaining that they are getting an ‘incomplete game,’ and therefore label it as garbage. I’d much rather them take their time and do it correctly for more than one reason: 1) It seems like the right thing to do; 2) That’s what PD has always done, and that’s part of why they are the developer they are.

  8. More excuses Kaz and PD. I think you guys must be either lazy, or so disorganized and inefficient that the entire reason you exist is lost on you.

    You guys are very very bad at making, finishing, and releasing video games.

    I’m not buying any of this BS about the sounds being updated later on.. Why haven’t you been updating them for the last 5 years? Why are you waiting till after GT6 is released to do something you should have been doing since GT4?

    I have never bought an Xbox or a Forza game, so I don’t want to hear any of the BS “Forza fanboy” comments. I’m a GT fan if anything, at least I USED TO BE.. but Turn10 are wiping the floor with you guys KAZ/PD. Sony, Kaz, and PD should be embarrassed and ashamed of their output lately. Totally lame.

    • Oh, and this is more proof that GT6 will be nothing more than GT5.5. It’s basically going to be a big update that should have happened about 2 years ago in the first place, and they still haven’t updated the sounds, LOL.

    • another_jakhole

      sayba2th, you know what NOT to do. lol

    • sayba2th

      @ AJ hahahahahahahaha, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9….Wooosa

    • jecklland

      man, I wanted to rub this in the face of your text Kaz and PD !

    • MeanElf

      Still waiting for the door slam here, then at least we’ll know you are gone, B.

  9. sayba2th

    Well what a right little hornets nest this has stirred up

  10. ZeroGamingHD

    The sounds for me is not a big deal for me, im still getting this game for the driving and the collection of cars that i loved since the first GT!

  11. What a surprise. Won’t be holding my breath.

    • Exactly, what a a surprise… Non-comittal is what sums up GT development unfortunately

    • RacingOtaku86

      Play something else if you’re not happy with it.

    • MeanElf

      mef, you must be using a different dictionary to the rest of us to expect that non-comittal comment to slide. All of the interviews I have seen shout out comittal, all the way, in bold letters.

      You call PD non-comittal after changing a game engine for a same console release of their new title?
      You think PD is not listening when they come out and decide to re-do entirely how sound is processed and handled for the game?
      You got it all wrong hater – they’re absolutely comitted and they absolutely love the ****ing game they make.

    • MeanElf

      Two internet cookies to anyone who recognises the parody source of my last three lines.

  12. Pit Crew

    Not surprised the Engine notes will be improved thru updates, as Kazs original statement on the subject wasn’t definitive enough for me to think the upgrade would make it to GT6 on launch day. Still gonna play it till my wheel comes apart.

    • Both Barrels

      Same here PC. It’s still gonna be good, and this was to be expected.

    • Tenacious D

      I third that, and would add that the lighting and physics engine are much more important to me.

    • RacingOtaku86

      Amen, brother. Amen.

    • MeanElf

      Yep, all it took was a little bit of reading. At least they are doing it and not ignoring things.

  13. Swagger897

    Im pretty sure that it was PD’s main purpose to set out to create the sounds from the car of all sounds of the engine. ENGINE SOUNDS ARE DIFFERENT FROM EXHAUST SOUNDS. Now that the previous sentence will draw in the non-negotiable incompetent fools on this site here we go…

    Games such as NFS for example, are only using the sounds of the exhausts, straight from the pipe, and nothing else. Forza for another comparison, also do the same, but add in other dynamic sounds to create a more fully rounded car sound. And the GT series tried to intake the entire sound system made by the car. So what exactly does GT do? Any sound such as the belts (note: you don’t hear the squeaky belts in the game. it is only the air that is stirred due to the movement) the transmission sounds, the whole lot. If you ever get to drive two cars, lets say a Dodge Ram 2500 24 Valve Turbo Diesel, the sound you hear when you are driving is the engine sound. It is completely different when you step out side and stick your ears directly from the pipe. However, if you are to get in a Supra with multiple upgrades to the car, the sound you hear from the inside is the exhaust noise, not the engine.

    (sit in these two cars and you will know exactly that)
    Until you do that, make sure you can tell the difference from cars with exhaust sounds and engine sounds. The R10 TDI (a broken car in the game) has sounds straight from the engine. But a Peugeot has sounds straight from the exhaust. Tell me it ain’t so because I would enjoy to prove you wrong.

    So.. (SEX) alright, now i have your attention still I hope. The main point of PD was to capture the sound in which best represents the car. You really cant say this however for the standard cars, as they are basically sounds imported from a data base, and not recorded with the real car… Get my drift?

    • sayba2th

      Amen! Sensational post Swagger, nothing further needs to be said

    • Steph290

      +1 …I agree! Most people don’t realize PD are trying to work in engine, exhaust, and transmission noise with a factual sound engine.

    • I’d like this to mean, we can start the engine and shut it off. As in driving free roam, park somewhere and begin taking photos in the track creator instead of accessing Photomode in replays.

  14. OriginalCheezIt

    Release, then add sounds as update. Skip the delayed release date scenario. PD has learned from their past mistakes. Well done.

    • Magic Ayrton

      It appears that you haven’t though.

    • Swagger897

      Magic… you make absolutely no sense at all. Id rather have an unfinished game with the will to fix it for free rather than pay for something that is halfway done and pay…

    • Ittybitty Stigy

      Yeah, your not making any sence Magic.

    • sayba2th

      It’s not the first time and know it wont be the last time

    • Hotrails17

      This makes complete sense. As a race fan, I enjoy all aspects of the sport.. especially the wonderful noises. I have an actual tuned stereo setup that can give straight chills in most all of the premium cars in the game as well as some of the standards. The engine and exhaust notes are fantastically accurate in GT5. Any true racing enthusiast will confirm this. Kaz and his team are not just some shmucks who likes to look at cars on the internet and plays video games for realism. These are true racing lovers who have actually crafted what they experience under real racing conditions that THEY have performed FIRST HAND.

      I will gladly take these sounds as a filler until the new beast of a sound generator that polyphony is creating is finally perfected. I love real racing and I love recreating that experience with an accurate and fully realistic video game. In this sense, Gran Turismo is truly the best in the business.

  15. DYLAN777-is-not

    Im so dissapointed that they didnt focus on the sound effects for gt6 but as long as theres an update that does a good job and isnt too far away like within a month or something then i can let it slide. Sound effects are just as important if not more important sometimes then even the graphics. My friend who isnt much of a gamer but a car guy, i let him play gt5 and he hated it straight away because his favorite car the c6 zr1 sounded so horrrrible. And it truely does. He does like forza4 because they got decent graphics and also great engine sounds. I mean they might as well sell the game in black and white. It isnt hard to get real engine sounds especialy if you are Kaz. Should be no excuse for this..

    • another_jakhole

      “but as long as theres an update”

      They have been focusing on updating sounds. How else could they be updated?

  16. Magic Ayrton

    Shocked and speechless.. but ok, if and when the update appears I will consider buying.. too much of the same old same old.. I was so looking forward to it.. but Guess I’m one of the few people who thinks it’s important.

  17. KopparbergDave

    It frustrates me how itty bitty Polyphony seems to have become as a developer. Only some cars are Premium.. we’re releasing the game that GT5 basically should have been from the outset but we STILL won’t actually have it finished to the standard customers expect, and you can expect a patch for that later, and so on. Just hire enough talented coders and technicians etc and get the work done. GT6 could easily have been a dual format release for PS4 as well, or have just been made exclusively for the PS4 as a massive selling point (not that Sony need any as the PS4 is already way more attractive). I love Japan but I hate to say it, there’s something severely broken when a talented team, working on the highest earning racing game franchise, can have so many problems just releasing a finished game on time and with everything in place. They need to really sort out their working procedures as there must be some massive inefficiencies. Having read a few articles it’s clear Japanese game devs do fall behind their western equivalents, but some like Konami have looked at it and addressed their procedures from the top down, I think Polyphony need to do the same. We should have a day 1, or at least guaranteed year one, knockout GT release for the PS4 but sadly I imagine it won’t be til at least 2015 until we even hear any concrete news on that. I hate to be negative but when they constantly over promise and then disappoint, and delay, and focus on some really inane details meanwhile forgetting the basics. I mean, other lesser, far more quickly created games have had better sound, FAR better, more guttural, authentic sound. Why can’t the Polyphony team just get it sorted.

    There’s lots of apologists as well who give them too much slack. I highly respect Kazunori nd his team but my god they seem to operate at about a third the speed of other devs. Look at what the Project CARS team has managed since GT5 came out…. The GT series must have made hundreds of millions for Sony/Polyphony yet we keep having these problems. Bah, I await the epicness of GT7 on the PS4, I expect it to be mind blowing, but I think for now I’m skipping GT6 unless it shows clear improvements, not just in the technology, but also in the gameplay structure, I’m so sick of arbitrary license tests and racing in electric cars etc for 10 hours until I can buy some good cars to race. Just make the game a sandbox or else make it compelling to actually play through and earn things, currently it’s neither.

    • another_jakhole

      Oh man. It was a picture of a driver in an invisible (hacked!) Formula car.

    • another_jakhole

      He’s back!

    • Pit Crew

      GT6 a dual platform game? Why waste resources making GT6 for PS3 and PS4, when all you would get in the PS4 version would be better graphics for 1. It was never a good idea from jumpstreet, except among the masses of disgruntled peeps who felt GT6 on PS4 would fix GT5s shortcomings.

  18. HKSBro92

    I just want cars with inline 5 engines to sound as good as possible….especially the Audi quattro, both road and rally. They sound soo smooth and nice.

  19. This whole criticism with the engine sounds is something that has frustrated me for a long time, in my eyes its a false criticism. It started off as something for people to troll with and now its a popular “criticism” by “fans”. If your running GT5 with a TV speaker set then I can understand slightly, it does sound a little tiny and flat on tv speakers. However, when i upgraded to a high quality 2.1 speaker system the game sounds awesome. There are many cars in the game I find sound particularly good such as the viper srt 10, aston martin db9, mazda 787b, corvette c3 convertible and etc.

    In my eyes there was nothing drastically wrong with the engine sounds, the main difference with other racing games is that PD don’t add effects to make them sound more exciting. Games like NFS shift and forza add a lot of bass and distortion to make cars sound much angrier than they actually do, even little ford fiestas sound like wrc cars in those games. PD go for realism, so a car with a little 1.2litre engine is not going to sound aggressive.

    A lot of this is just fanboyism, not only do i feel sorry for PD but i also feel sorry for this site. People say “engine sounds like a vaccum cleaner” and then claim to be providing ‘constructive criticism’ and then also mention forza in the next breath and go on about how mighty that game is. Fanboyism is written all over it, I come here to get news on GT and as soon as theres good news like improved engine sounds, sniffling whiners drag it to the ground before its even been given a chance. This is not just with engine sounds either, its anything people can find to nitpick about, any news that’s positive to the slightest people faults with it.

    The even worse thing is PD can’t win, not matter what they do they get called lazy and incompetent by people who wouldn’t have the slightest clue how to develop a computer game. People are complaining in the comments section that the new engine sounds are not ready for launch, yet if PD said well now were gonna push the release back so we can have it in by launch people would moan about that. “I’m not buying this game, PD are let down bla bla bla” – Then don’t buy if you don’t like it, and don’t come on here anymore and spoil everyone else’ fun, go and play something else.

    • Amac500

      I mean the sounds weren’t perfect or anything, and making them as accurate as possible is a good thing, but the games are way worse than GT in that department and as good as the rest of the game is I agree that they got too much heat for it.

    • another_jakhole

      Little brother?

      haha jk, I don’t have a younger brother.

      I agree with everything you think. Well said!

    • JTB10000

      This should be posted in every GT6 thread here.

    • Magic Ayrton

      No one cares, millions of dollars could and should get the job done. end of.

    • @jhw93: I couldn’t agree more. Excellent!

    • sayba2th

      This has been my sentiments for some time, some of the so called constrictive criticism is out out destructive (which shows that a lot of people have no idea about what the words they have used actually mean). Yes there are areas that PD need to make improvements on and this goes without saying but for the most part they have delivered excellent gaming experiences and I for one have enjoyed the ride the last 15 years have provided.

      After playing Rad Racer on the NES back in the day (and it was rad back then) which only gave you 2 or 3 cars to choose from was blockier than the offensive and defensive lines combined of an NFL team, engine noises sounded like phasers on repeat from a Star Trek Next Gen ep and classic 8bit music to having GT5 puts it all into perspective.

      Anyway I am greatly looking forward GT6 and will be a day 1 purchaser and TBH could give a rats ass if you are hating on it and one of the non purchasers dismissing / slamming a game before it is even completed.

    • Pit Crew

      *This is not just with engine sounds either, its anything people can find to nitpick about, any news that’s positive to the slightest people find faults with it*

      True, and it’s always the same people. I for 1 am learning it’s best to try and ignore them. Arguing with juvenile thinking people is pointless.

    • False criticism? Haha, you have to be joking. The engine sounds on 90% of the cars is truely woeful. I have a good sound system and it still sound crap. I own a WRX STI ’07 & I can tell you for a fact that the WRX’s in GT5 sound absolutely nothing like the real thing. Even with a sports exhaust GT5 still manages to make it sound like a vacuum cleaner.

    • TokoTurismo

      ^ Not even constructive criticism… What a joke these people….

    • sayba2th

      PC absolutely, they say you should never argue with a fool cause from a distance no one can tell who is who.

    • Pit Crew

      LOL sayba2th, You ain’t never lied bro.

    • Droogie

      Hey Dooky, just to let you know not all WRX STI ’07′s sound the sound the same. In Japan, it’s like the 2.0 L EJ20 H4 engine. You probably have a 2.5 L EJ25 H4 engine on your Subaru and trust me they sound different in real life.

    • Droogie

      Oops I made a typo.

  20. Andyc709292

    I never really worried too much about the sound – it’s all about the driving right. That was until I got Ferrari Racing Legends, which whilst insanely hard does have a comparable F40, and it sounds amazing. Won’t stop me buying GT6 of course, but better sounds would be most welcome.

  21. montecarlo87

    Give silly rabbits a reason to whine, gripe and cry and they will. My only issue with the game has been the astronomical amount of Japanese cars vs the rest of the world. A Subaru 360 instead of a Chevy Cobalt SS? A Premium Prius and a Standard Veyron? A Dihatsu Midget over a MG Midget?

    Personally if they want to fix the sounds later to release GT6 this year and GT7 two years later so be it. I bought Forza last year hoping that maybe it was better. And except for slightly better engine sounds and the correct mix of cars it was lousy. Only slightly better engine sounds because a Dodge V8 sounds just like a Ford or Chevy V8. Driveability of the cars, severe lack of menu compared to GT, functionality of the controls and no true music options made me want to keep playing GT5. And I will do the same for GT6/7 because the game can only get better meaning Forza may never truely beat Grand Tursimo.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Because Forza can never become better either, right?

    • another_jakhole

      Hmm. He based the future development of FM games on one game just like so many people base future GT’s to one game. It’s fair.

    • HKSBro92

      Forza can beat GT. All they need is day/night cycle and weather effects.

    • another_jakhole

      And custom tracks, plus rally driving and snow driving. So, physics for driving in the wet (Greenawalt has said the difficulty of doing that is the reason it wasn’t in previous FM’s and FM5), physics for gravel or dirt (Forza Horizon has arcadey physics so it can’t translate well enough), and night tracks or time change was too difficult. Before anyone knew anything about FM5, a lot of people were saying, “They can just transfer what’s in Horizon (dirt/gravel and time change) to Forza Motorsport.”

    • MuoNiuLa

      Actually, Horizon has fairly realistic physics. The reason why it’s probably getting this arcade label is because the tire model is too grippy. Horizon’s physics model is a just modified version of FM4′s physics, so it can be accessible to more people.

    • another_jakhole

      Nope. Nooooooo.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Okay…just close your ears instead of actually trying to refute what I just said.

    • another_jakhole

      “Horizon’s physics model is a just modified version of FM4′s physics, so it can be accessible to more people.”

      You said it, mang.

    • another_jakhole

      Reading back to what you said about Forza in other comments, I’m not at all saying FM has arcadey physics. And when I say that Horizon has arcadey physics, I’m not saying that it’s an arcade game. Hope that clears something up a bit.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Ah, I see. No problem.

  22. BongRipz

    I am far more interested in the driving physics then the engine sounds tbh.

    • TokoTurismo

      I agree. That one is what I’m really looking forward to. 1200 cars with brand new physics? Count me in. :)

    • omgsean1

      Same here, I am interest in the driving physic and more cars to choice for my opinion.

    • sayba2th

      Amen, THIS is what sets GT apart from every other driving / racing game on a console. GT trumps all (I own FM4 as well) The engine sounds at the end of the day is not what I play the game for and TBH is not the be all and end all. So far from what I have tasted with GT6 and the new physics engine I am looking forward to this game more than any game ever in the past. Please note before you get your panties all bunched and knotted that this is in MY opinion and not fact.

  23. pepeferrari

    I don´t care if they are added later. What I feel confident about is when PD decides to make something they make it great. They told gt5 was going to be photo realistic and it was, so if Kaz says sounds are greatly improved I believe him, he´s very perfectionist. :)

  24. MadmuppGT

    I’m hoping theres something big announced at TGS… because each and every day its less or nothing. I may wait to buy GT6 after it drops in price and its gotten a few updates and DLC under its belt.

    Unless of course like I say something truly mind blowing happens at TGS.

    As for my own feeling on if we should be worried that GT6 will just be a slightly updated version of GT5 (as people are calling it GT5.5) I would put the worried level at DEFCON 3… one away from all out war

    • MeanElf

      I wouldn’t believe others’ comments if I were you, as they have had absolutely zero chance to actually play the game that will be out in December – ergo: pure speculation.

    • MadmuppGT

      Well its not others comments I go off, its PDs’ or lack there of…

    • MeanElf

      I think they’re being a lot more forthcoming than previously.

  25. MLRSparco

    Well you just loss a first day buyer with that smh,the one thing I was counting on to make this game better and it has to be in a update later down the line,and mind you the update might not even be what we want it could be just as bad,I highly doubt every car will sound the way it should.

    • MeanElf

      This should hardly be news, as it was mentioned that maybe sound would be improved by launch, or maybe not and this was said quite a while ago – Jordan even links to the news article above…

      Too many apparent fans it seems do not keep up with the news on this game.

    • QuikSlvr223

      These exact same criticisms could have applied to the day one version of the game, and you were still going to buy it apparently. If you’d look at what the game has , like a brand new extremely realistic physics engine, and about 1150 more cars than most of it’s competitors, you’d see what an annoying stuck-up troll you are.

    • MLRSparco

      So many fanboys out there,you call me a troll because I know what real cars sound like and you don’t? lmfao wow no one in there right mind can say that every car in this game sounds just like how it does in real life,the supercars maybe,but the bmw’s,mazda’s,nissan’s,subaru’s and many more do not sound real.

      The reason I didn’t know about this before is because I don’t live for GT6 news like you guys do, I have better things to do then lurk on here till new news comes out.And as far as “NEW REALISTIC PHYSICS” is concerned it’s nice but I could care less,if I wanted real physics I’ll go to PC,the physics in GT5 was plenty for me.And for the 1,150 cars they will have is nothing cool,most cars will be versions of the same car and most will be standard so nothing really incredible there, Forza 4 had better cars than GT5 and they had half the number of cars we had.

      I hate the fact that there are so many fanboys out there that think that GT6 is somehow gold and anybody that says anything bad about it has to be a troll or a lil kid or an idiot.I work as a mechanic and I’ve reduced weight in peoples cars,I’ve installed exhaust systems,I know first hand what cars sound like when you do those things to them.

    • Droogie

      I’m not gonna be a first day buyer for GT6… because I got a life and I don’t have time to wait in line for this game.

    • sayba2th

      You kind of tripped up here by saying that could care less about the physics. Why play GT then there are tons of better games at doing the arcade thing, this is what sets GT apart from any other console driving / racing game. If that’s not what you play this for then of course you will be disappointed. Look I am not a fanboy, I know GT is not perfect (and have FM4 which I love but is a different game) and needs improvement in certain areas but for the most part its a great game and compared to others in this genre is not just gold but platinum.

      Can we just let the game come out and play it first before tearing shreds off of it. It will be better than 5 which was better than 4 and so on, maybe there were elements where the older versions were better but overall there has been an improvement each time with the evolution of GT

    • Pit Crew

      I just love it when people claim to be mechanics, so that just makes their opinion golden.

    • JTB10000

      Amen to sayba. If you somehow have all of the information about GT6, go ahead, bash away. But, if you don’t (which is 100% certain), stop this bullcrap and wait until more information is released…please, reading all of this hate is depressing.

    • sayba2th

      hahahaha PC just burst out laughing in the office I work at after reading that – MasterCard humour brah!!!!

      Word JTB if I wanna get brought down I check the news or read the hate that flows freely across this site from some of the twatwaffles that post here.

    • MLRSparco

      @sayba2th Actually I said I could care less about the “NEW REALISTIC PHYSICS”,I never said I don’t care about general physic ,I play this game for it’s online because lets be honest the single player is terrible with its crappy A.I,you can reach 1st place before the first lap is finished.The only thing GT offers is graphics,online,and physics,but sound plays a very important roll in the immersion of any racing game.Why do you think NFS Most Wanted and NFS in general always gets comments on how amazing the cars sound,now yes those sounds were probably enhanced,but they were enhanced from there original sound.I’m sure if they wanted use to shutup and wait for the game to come out they would’ve disabled the comment section.

      @JTB10000 We just got confirmation that sounds will not be a day 1 thing,when Kaz says it might not make it thats confirmation to me and I’m sure a lot of people that it won’t be a day 1 thing, so I’m pretty sure I have every right to bash away in the comments if I please, thats what the comment section is for to voice your opinion,you choose to read it thats on you,you should’ve expected to see these types of comments in here seeing as this is bad news.

      @Pit Crew O nooo you encountered a mechanic in the comment section,do you really think the GT community is made up of 10 year olds?I’m sure there is a good percentage of GT’s community thats made up of mechanics,car lovers,and amateur race car drivers.

    • MeanElf

      “The reason I didn’t know about this before is because I don’t live for GT6 news like you guys do, I have better things to do then lurk on here till new news comes out”

      All the info was in the article above – not my fault that you chose not to keep up with the news bro – your call. But if you want to play a new game and don’t research it, then you can’t really complain if it doesn’t match your expectations, especially if those expectations are based on old news.

  26. Will Kaz also upgrade my crappy Flat Panel HDTV speakers? Cause these suck big time.

    • sayba2th

      Of course he will. He is also buying you a new house and car too

    • Will the new car and a house improve GT6 sounds?

  27. TomBrady

    I been saying this all along. DId people forget all the updates we got with GT5?

    • another_jakhole

      Since May 15, we knew they’d be updating GT6 as much as, or even more than, they did with GT5.

    • another_jakhole

      Oh yeah, but only now did we get confirmation that they can and likely will add time change to some tracks down the line.

  28. Sliderman(Hun)

    The real vacoom cleaner simulator…

    • OrangeSquid

      omg, youve gotta be the most original person ive ever come across on this site!!

    • Rafael F

      haha! I thought I would only read such thing on youtube comments section

    • Sliderman(Hun)

      Be careful Pjore, there are some intresting people on the web, you never know…

    • QuikSlvr223

      The joke’s been beaten to death, shut up.

    • Magic Ayrton

      Vacuums sound authentic at least.

    • sayba2th

      Backfire much, before you go trying to be the next Chris Rock maybe you might want to work on spelling your material correctly then you may wist to work on being amusing. Double fail……(sniff sniff)……..Hey Slider………You stink

    • Magic Ayrton

      Sorry Vakooms, viakooms, vacumms, vacuumas all sound better than cars in GT. lol

    • sayba2th

      Seriously Magic Ayrton you need to shut the &^%* up! NONE of those so called words you have typed make any sense. You ARE pounding stale material that was NOT even funny to begin with. You’re more played out than plastic on a 70′s couch and Jehri curls. In fact you should be banned from this site for having an IQ that makes an amoeba look like a Rhodes scholar.

    • another_jakhole

      Okayyyy, relax, sayba2th. toooooo much

    • sayba2th

      Apologies AJ, but this is getting kinda long in the 2th if you know what I am saying and people who perpetuate others dumbassery need to be put in check.

    • another_jakhole

      Been there and dun did dat. I’ve also taken it too far (not toooo far, but according to the rules :\) and wasted time on people who end up getting banned a few weeks or months down the line. Just, Magic Ayrton is one of very few who shouldn’t be posting his thoughts (the way that he goes about it) for obvious reasons and his past comments. Don’t waste time on it all.

    • another_jakhole

      By very few, I really do mean not many at all deserve the check that he begs for with every thought HE craps out into a place he doesn’t respect. It’s trolling. I said it. :\ :| :) :D :?

    • sayba2th

      Fa Sho AJ, I hear you brah, it is Trolling and there is wisdom in the words you speak. It’s a rue at times to be so passionate about certain things as it draws that beast out that’s kept deep within

  29. Rafael F

    Good news, we are getting good sounds on GT6, not on day one but it is almost confirmed on future updates. Kaz would not say such thing if he was not sure about it.
    Thank you PD!
    I just don’t understand so much negativism with the news. Even with bad sounds GT was the better racing / driving / sim. game available on ps3, and now we know about new sounds making it into GT6 and people still complain.

    • another_jakhole

      Why update when we could just spend more than 400 dollars plus a new game and wait another year for a REAL sequel to GT5?

      ;)

    • Rafael F

      Too bad where I live PS4 is probably going to cost around 1200 converting it to dollars.
      PS3 is costing $440 right now.

    • another_jakhole

      Exactly what I mean. There are a lot of people wondering why they didn’t just make the next GT for the PS4. It’s going to save a lot of us the money it will take to buy GT6 and a new console PLUS buying PS+ to play online. So that would be over 520 USD without tax for me. That is really not worth it and I’m without a doubt going to be playing GT6 the day it releases, because I won’t have to buy a new console.

    • another_jakhole

      UPDATES are b-e-a-utiful the way PD has done it. It could have been better, but everything can be better if you know what I mean.

    • Rafael F

      Same to me, I’m really glad about GT6 being for ps3, unfortunately i won’t have money to buy a ps4 soon.
      I’m sure GT7 will arrive and I still will be enjoying and having fun with GT6.

  30. Key words…”Could be”…so he, they, we, us, you, me…have no idea if this will come to us…;(

    • MeanElf

      More like a ‘when’ than an ‘if’ but that was clearly stated, so I’m not sure why you stated otherwise.

  31. hmlopes

    What I really want is real engine sounds… In GT5 the 787B sounds great, aswell sounds Hondas ITR or CTR… But a 908 HDI sounds like a very low revs Viper, very far from the real engine sound that we can check on Youtube Videos of Le Mans….

  32. BadFlounder

    This will be the first GT I don’t buy. Part of that has to do with PS4 and my attention going there, but it’s also PD totally dropping the ball yet again. I’m a fan of the GT series, but it’s frankly embarrassing how far behind Forza they have fallen. Yeah…certain aspects of GT are still fantastic but, to me at least, the overall package is just so stuck in the past. It’s really too bad.

    • another_jakhole

      I’m baffled by these views. Not to say that you’re wrong, but I don’t see how PD can be stuck in the past, or whatever anyone wants to think, with the sounds being the main reason people end up using to not get GT6. Then, it’s the AI. Then, it’s the career mode.

      I think the AI and career mode are good enough reasons for not wanting GT5 or GT6, yet I still don’t see why someone could say the same for GT6. We still don’t know what the career mode will be like and we still don’t know what the AI will end up being like. The GT Academy demo’s AI was clearly meant to be a walk in the park in difficulty. Even then, I can’t see how this news is the defining moment to say, “I tap out, and I’m going to get FM5, instead.” Or pCARS, which sounds toooo much like SHIFT and for obvious reasons.

    • another_jakhole

      Oh and that’s not to say pCARS sounds are bad, or aren’t any better than GT’s. It’s only to say that pCARS and FM take the “Hollywood” approach of sound production.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Inb4 someone calls Forza an arcade game.

    • another_jakhole

      That doesn’t change the fact that GT and FM and NFS are toys.

      Yeah, inb4…

  33. This game update could be very big then. Sounds can take a lot of free disk space.

  34. RacingFreak2k3

    I understand people’s gripe with the possibility of the new sounds not being included at launch. However, think of it this way. You go back to PS1, maybe even PS2 days, and this console gaming updating to my knowledge wasn’t really a possibility. At least, once it’s released, it can STILL be fixed.

    For me, just to hear that they still plan on fixing and releasing a new sound engine is great news in my eyes, and if they’re working that hard on it, hopefully we’re not disappointed. This is the one thing I’ve been wanting the most to be improved for awhile, and I’ll be a kid on Christmas once it does. Nothing is in stone until it’s actually implemented, but at least they’re addressing the issue and talking about it at this point.

    Carry on.

    • another_jakhole

      I just think they need to change the name. Gran Tourismo. It gives it a whole new FRESH feeling. :D

    • another_jakhole

      “At least, once it’s released, it can STILL be fixed.”

      Very true though.

  35. With all the monthly DLC’s they’re talking about and engine sounds that won’t even make it into the game at launch, it’s starting to sound like waiting a year and getting the XL or Academy or whatever edition they come out with would be a much better deal.

    • MeanElf

      Good luck with the wait. I on the other hand will be playing GT6 from the first day and when the update comes, I will have the same game you waited all that time for.

      But it’s your choice.

  36. CallmeDan

    So are the upgrading to Dyson or Bissell? :sly:

    • Maddens Raiders

      *revs up the 787B and 908hdiFAP* wtf are you talking about? Better yet, what sound capture techniques are you working on today for your racing simulation game? Pardon the pun, but you’re just another jack hole.

    • another_jakhole

      @Maddens Raiders
      Shout Out!

    • CallmeDan

      Apparently someone doesn’t understand sarcasm, or for that matter, a joke.

    • another_jakhole

      You shouldn’t read into it or take it to heart. Maddens Raiders was just on an irritation rampage. BUT the vacuum cleaner jokes are OOOOLLLD.

    • CallmeDan

      True, aj.

  37. HuskyGT

    I like it when a developer is this honest. They could hold silence and never deal with the problem. Reading this takes a huge weight off of my back. Sounds are a big deal for me, as it is for some others, so I hope everything goes okay. Can’t wait for the game!!

    A big :tup: for you PD!

  38. 2012GT325

    Thank you, PD/Kaz San, for listening to fans and making changes. I enjoyed the new graphics and physics in the demo and am very much looking forward to the release of the game. With all new cars, tracks, better graphics, improved physics and better sound (even if it’s coming later), GT6 will likely be the greatest in the series so far. GT6 and GTA V in the same year — this is going to be so much fun!

  39. Kratos_Q8

    this game fanboyz is the worst i’ve seen dont get me wrong im a BIG fan of this game since GT1 , but from GT5 they started to fail badly what a rushed product no hard to spot that just look at the career mode content they made it last 3 hours before release

    about sounds and fanboyz this is the fanboyz comment of the year for me :

    if you looking for an awesome and improved cars sounds in GT5 you should play it with a surround sound system..!! HAHAHA

    • Maddens Raiders

      Stop playing video games and posting on forums and go back to school and learn to read and write properly. Your idiotic rant of a post made my head ache.

    • Kratos_Q8

      @Maddens Raiders

      ^^

      hahaha see this why this game will never improve … people sucking what ever PD throw at them

    • another_jakhole

      “but from GT5 they started to fail badly what a rushed product no hard to spot that just look at the career mode content they made it last 3 hours before release”

      haha haaaaa

    • TokoTurismo

      Kratos shush. Just… Shush…. How freaking embarrassing… -_-

    • Kratos_Q8

      this much i care about my english : %0.000032

    • Maddens Raiders

      @ Kratos_Q8 – “this much i care about my english : %0.000032″

      I think you accidentally posted your IQ here. Run along now it’s almost time for your bath and then bedtime. 8)

    • TokoTurismo

      OOOOOHHHHhhh Kratos, you got brought down so hard by Maddens Raiders. xD

      +100 Maddens Raiders. :)

    • another_jakhole

      Wooo, SHAKE AND BAKE!

    • BoneSawTX

      And y’all proved Kratos’ point.

    • another_jakhole

      No.

    • VenomDan

      And how so?

    • MeanElf

      Because no one defended the game – just pointed out Kratos’ comments were pretty much invalid as comments.

  40. TheGTman

    Better late than never… I hope.

  41. tpark103

    Who’s going to stop GT from being the reigning king? No one is going to stop them that’s who! So all the haters and bashers please give it your best shot. No matter what you have to say you cannot stop the core GT fan from making the purchase. You probably want even sway the on the fence buyer to change their mind. Until Sony has another pure simulator GT is it and though its far from perfect, it’s pretty good. We can pick at ever games imperfections if we wanted to. The proof is in the numbers and the fans love this game.

  42. TheeFrogmanlego

    Considering most of you think old cars have popping engine noises, I’m good.

  43. BoneSawTX

    yea, no GT6 for me

  44. ONEEYEMONSTaR

    Big GT fanatic from the beginning and am really excited for GT6, but this is no surprise :-( Since GT4′s long wait to Prologue and eventually GT5, it’s same ole same ole. Hey, but look on the bright side, GT6 is going to be on a proven console and not the next gen super console sooner rather than later.

  45. Steph290

    Well this didn’t come as much of a surprise, however I’m pleased he at least gave us fair notice in advance. Personally I don’t see Kaz and the PD team as being incompetent in the exhaust sound department, but rather perfectionist to the degree that they refuse to release a new sound engine till they complete the one they are developing. Yes it is rather annoying, but then I understand that it’s just how the game is translating the sounds they recorded (all sounding very drone). Once they develop the new sound engine it should only be a matter of applying it to all the sound data they recorded over the years, which I know they have(the amount of time they spend to go and observe the cars). So optimistically I’m looking at a few months after release for this update. I can wait. What’s a few more months, lol.

  46. Again, PD will deliver an unfinished game.
    Pathetic…

    • occasionalracer

      Care to tell us about your accomplishments in life?

    • racingRAW

      I hope you realize hardly any game is a finished product when it’s released.

    • Kratos_Q8

      @racingRAW :

      infamous 1
      infamous 2
      uncharted 1
      uncharted 2
      uncharted 3
      the last of us
      red dead redemption
      heavy rain
      god of war 3
      call of duty 4
      just to name a few for ya fanboy

    • Maddens Raiders

      Kratos_Q8
      @
      infamous 1
      infamous 2
      uncharted 1
      uncharted 2
      uncharted 3
      the last of us
      red dead redemption
      heavy rain
      god of war 3
      call of duty 4
      just to name a few for ya fanboy
      ==========================================================

      Every one of those games you mentioned received either an update via patch at launch, or during it’s lifetime to either the SP or MP portion of the game. lol I can’t believe you mentioned trash COD in there too haha. Dare to try again… FANBOY?

    • Kratos_Q8

      @Maddens Raiders non of those was patched day 1

      and yes i dare put cod 4 that game when it came set a standard for shooters in the market back in 2007 and it was a complete game

    • HuskyGT

      I’m sorry to break in…

      COD, “set a standard for shooting games” ? Allow me to laugh for a minute or two… HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      I can tell you the name of some shooters that destroy COD in every single aspect. Some of them are even from the cartridge game generation.

      The only COD that was somewhat worth it was World at War. The rest are just recycled crap made to appeal the soulless masses.

    • TokoTurismo

      Reporter: So Toko. What is your response on Kratos saying *chuckles* saying that “COD” has “set a standard for shooters?

      Me: I *chuckles* I think *chuckles again* HAHAHAHAHAHA!! I, I can’t do it HAHAHA. It’s, it’s too laughable *both falls off their chairs* HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!! X’D

      Oh btw MoLiEG. Stop being butthurt. :)

    • racingRAW

      woooooow call of doody is on your list… that automatically makes anything you say = null.

  47. TheGTGuy

    This is good news, ill still enjoy GT6 and it will only get better when they impliment new sounds.

  48. MasterFocus

    Are we december 6th yet??

  49. NOSWaster

    I’m pretty sure I can understand why the sounds won’t be done at release. Kaz is basically trying to have them release a new sound engine as well as better sounds. He’s trying to make the cars sound better by completely changing the way they’re processed in game. It’s pretty darn bold, especially since it seems like he wants to make distortions “random”. No, this is not fact, but it’s my interpretation of what he is trying to say.

    I say it’s a good call because I would rather have engine sounds and distortions separate from one another instead of the same exact distortions looped over and over because of them being integrated into the engine sound samples.

    • Kratos_Q8

      what is Kaz been doing since 2010 ? since back then ppl were asking for new sound engine does it take 3 years to do that ?

    • another_jakhole

      “what is Kaz been doing since 2010 ?”

      Kaz has said they’ve been working on it since GT5′s development. PPL want a lot of things. PPL can’t get them all.

  50. Oh well.. I would still have tons of game time with GT6, but they need to get this sound issue straighten out. As much as I love the GT series, the sound is really frustrating when you think how inaccurate it is..

  51. I’m not really that bothered by sounds if the rest of the game is good. But come on, there’s a point where you have to start to question whether not having something so basic as better engine sounds ready for launch is acceptable…

  52. dethringr

    I can live without improve sound, but I totally welcome improve lighting. Night driving on GT5 is horrible. I avoid it whenever possible.

    • TokoTurismo

      Agreed. In GT5 it was waaaaay to dark, I disliked that very much. What I hope for, at night time it’s more blue somewhat. :)

    • Man, that’s Hollywood night-time, just blue filter over daytime ;)

    • TokoTurismo

      ^ Hahaha. :)

    • MeanElf

      :) gotcha! I actually don’t mind the racing in the dark – hey, it’s a helluva lot better than that 24hr Spa in Grid – I could never see where I was going on that track at night.

  53. I’ll take the game as is, than to have to hear of a dismal delay to GT6. Dec 6th can’t come soon enough.

    Question about all the cars to be included in GT6,
    are they going to be all new cars? or just 1,000+ cars copied from GT5, being the same year, etc?

    I think the lack of proper sounds, has much to do with all available resources allocated on the PS3 to have to tackle the excellent game and physics engine this game has to offer.

    Let’s enjoy GT5.5 and wait for GT7 on the next gen that should surely deliver.

  54. TokoTurismo

    I love the crying in here. Keep QQing, it’s a amusing. xD Like, I know it’s painful and all but still. :)

  55. Vagabond

    Oh come on! I’ve been a die hard fan of GT since its first incarnation and the ONE thing that almost every fan of the series is forced to admit is that the engine sounds are painfully, woefully inadequate. Why oh why after all this time and all this wailing are we forced to accept that the biggest and best yet of our beloved GT is still going to be a laughing stock because they can’t make a recording of a car engine sound like it actually sounds. I could record my own car right now and make it sound better. The damn user-made engine sounds form mods in rFactor sound better. Its ridiculous… “We listen to the fans…” The only damned thing we want is better sounds, how did you miss that?

    • TeamCZRRacing

      Once again, I’m in awe of the amount of complaining here. People are whining about the fact that the new engine sounds won’t be included in GT6 when it ships, but by the same token they wouldn’t hesitate to whine if PD decided to push GT6 back to try and work the new sounds into the base game.

      GT6 drops in just over two months, and it’s going to be epic. STOP NITPICKING.

    • ExplodeTheApex

      @Vagabond are you blind mate? They are listening to the fans, which you would have seen multiple other examples of if you followed news on GT properly, and THEY ARE MAKING NEW SOUNDS! You said you only want better sounds, and that is exactly what they are doing?! I don’t get it to be honest…

    • Vagabond

      I don’t get why anyone feels the need to defend Polyphony over this. You know what I don’t get…? Waiting 16 years for the best console driving game on the market to get right what any other piss-poor excuse for a driving game seems to find easy. It isn’t whining, its exasperation. YES THEY’RE MAKING NEW SOUNDS, I can read. So why didn’t they do it when it first became an issue? That was a mighty long time ago by my reckoning. I’m a GT fan, I always will be… I have GT6 on pre-order, just like GT5 and every other GT before it. I’m not threatening not to buy it, I’m not demanding ridiculous features that matter little, I’m just tired of waiting for something that’s been wrong since the dawn of time to be fixed. Kaz acknowledges the problem after 15 years of fan complaints but we still have to wait another 2 years until we may (or may not – the quote reads [When pressed on updating the sounds via update, Yamauchi responded that “There’s a good possibility that we might do this.”] get an update? I find that… ‘disappointing’.

    • ExplodeTheApex

      Yes but the getting the sounds right is a huge task to get right. Kaz wants to get them exactly right, and obviously that went horribly wrong. But they had other things to concentrate on for new GTs. They have probably been working on new sounds at least since GT5 came out, it doesn’t just happen overnight. And they probably didn’t do it before then because it takes up a lot of the workload for a relatively small company, and people would probably complain even more because if they concentrated purely on the sounds, because there would be less new cars, tracks and general features. I imagine they would have liked to get the new sounds in for GT5 initially, but they obviously cocked up a bit with that, so they were delayed now. Also, being exasperated won’t help anything. The fact is PD are probably working there ‘cheeks off recording the sounds right now, and that is as much as you can ask for. Think of it as a bonus to what already looks like a stunning game!

  56. thekillzonegame

    I thought that Japanese were serious people, and they do the things right way, but, reading this ….

    • MeanElf

      Seems to me that they are doing it the right way, rather than just carrying on.

    • Maddens Raiders

      @thekillzonegame – “I thought that Japanese were serious people, and they do the things right way, but, reading this ….”

      Guess who designed and built the PlayStation you play Killzone on? Guess who designed the game that has sold the most titles across all PlayStation platforms than any other?

      “I thought that Japanese were serious people” — Spoken like a true racist dumbass.

    • another_jakhole

      Not racist. He’s just ignant lol.

  57. and I am done with the GT series, I have bought every single game on release and I wont be this time.

    They should just release a complete game next time.

    • Maddens Raiders

      See ya!

    • OrangeSquid

      you wont be missed!! ^^

    • Oyashiro-sama

      Catlin, I know how you feel. It just sounds to me like another BIG FAT LIE, just how we were told we would see standard cars going premium in a GT5 free update. It never happened, and guess what, GT6 still won’t have 100% premium cars.

      At least I hope that GT6 will allow us to have more cars for shuffle and that we can have one maker races with any car we like, or else, I might not buy GT6 as well.

  58. Maddens Raiders

    Sony, Kaz and PD will put out another stellar product. Of this, I am certain.

  59. What did i tell you!

    So, already an unfinished game before its released.

    I have zero confidence in PD getting all cars changed in the next 3 years.

    No wonder Sony wanted a different driving game for PS4,Evolution have nailed the sounds on DriveClub.
    Sony certainly didn’t want the Lawnmowers going up against Forza 5.
    Looks like Sony have zero confidence in them too!

    Massive dissapointment AGAIN, but i’m not one bit surprised!

    • MeanElf

      All you keep telling us phil is that you don’t actually know what you are talking about…

      I normally stop reading after the first fatuous comment, but this time you have excelled yourself in the assumption department.

    • phil_75

      I couldn’t give two tosses what all you sickeningly idiotic and clearly deaf Kaz lovers say.

      To keep defending PD over their ridiculous decisions and total lack of forward thinking is just laughable.

    • MeanElf

      And yet the choice to buy is all ours, as is your choice not to…so why don’t you do that? Why the constant need to waste your time by hanging around here to belittle something you clearly don’t belive in?

  60. HKS racer

    Even with an incomplete product they still sell a lot and the forum is full of people defending all their delays.
    So, they have no problems releasing incomplete stuff at all.

  61. infamousphil

    CONFIRMED… GT6 will not be released as a “finished” game. Sad to say that PD has never released a finished Gran Turismo. Well, at least we have dlc and updates to mature the game.

    As much as I love the game, it still pisses me off that PD and Kaz let folks at Sony and the public rush them into releasing stuff that isn’t ready. “BLACK EYE CIRCLE STAMPS” for all Kaz images and PD stand for “PREMATURE DEVELOPERS” ;(

    ARRRGH!

    • Maddens Raiders

      “CONFIRMED… GT6 will not be released as a “finished” game.” — what does this even mean? Why would you want a “finished racing game” that never evolved in the first place. GT is like a tuner car that you can always upgrade and that’s always evolving. It’s not that old ’57 Chevy in the garage that’s fully restored and is perfectly fine looking and sounding the same way year after year after year. That’s actually a bit boring if you ask me.

    • “Rush them” are you having a laugh or what!?

      They couldn’t run a bath.

    • Maddens Raiders

      ^ lol this guy again. Couldn’t program his microwave and complains about one of the most prolific devs on the face of the planet. Douchebaggery at its very finest.

    • Prolifically dissapointing you mean?

      Keep defending, Kaz might play with your gearstick eh!

    • TokoTurismo

      ^ BUTTHUUUURT!! XD

  62. oneloops

    GOOD NEWS I was expecting that ! Thanks a lot PD !!! :)

  63. Jayson619

    “Kazunori also confirmed to EuroGamer that game save data from GT5 would not transfer over to GT6, citing that GT5‘s data has already been “cracked” and could lead to further compromises in GT6.”

    Damn hackers! Now I can’t bring over my X2010 Prototype.

  64. They should put sounds like Shift & Shift 2, very noisy cars….

  65. Rage9one

    You people need to be patient, I have faith Kazunori will fix the sounds. Just wait and see what happens.

  66. JTB10000

    I wonder what he means by a “sound update”. Does that mean the sounds are more accurate or just different?

  67. Jaywalker

    Being a bit of a sceptic, I don’t hear what I want to hear. What I get from what he says is that there will be very little change in the (poor) sounds initially. The change will come in an update after they’ve sorted things out.

    And I’ll be happy to be wrong.

    • KiroKai

      Actually he says the (undefined, but suuurely ground breaking) changes might come in an update if they sort things out.

  68. It’s too late to wonder why this and why that. This should have been taken care of by now.

    • TokoTurismo

      Yeah, if they “did focus” on the sounds itself, I bet you everything else in the game will be unfinished….

  69. With the technology and all this time since gt5 I just don’t understand why this hasn’t been accomplished yet…

  70. KiroKai

    Does he mean engine sounds or the sound engine?
    Many race cars and even brand new production cars like the Aventador, Huayra etc have completely wrong/reused sound samples in GT5 and in the GT6 demos we’ve seen so far, those need to be reworked. The sound engine, as in how sounds are produced and where the sound sources come from in and around the car/player, is pretty realistic in GT5 I think. It could be improved too as it’s certainly less ‘average TV speaker friendly’ than Forza’s way of roaring in every single car, but the sound engine of GT5 isn’t the main problem of its sounds in my opinion.

    • eran0004

      It says “engine sounds”

    • Yeah, but the way he talks it sounds strongly like he talks about the overall sound engine rather than singular sound samples that need to be fixed/replaced/recorded.

      I mean, take the Gallardo V10 sound as an example, it’s all neat and tidy until you find out they copy and pasted that sound onto the Murciélago V12 LP640, V12 LP670-4 SV, Aventador LP700-4 and now it’s even a ‘placeholder’ on the Huayra in the GT6 demos! I mean… what the hell? That’s pure laziness that can’t be corrected if they improve the sound engine.

  71. Mister Slow

    Better later than never.

  72. what would they have to tweak? I take it they changed the recording proceedure again?

  73. R34EVO9

    Why can’t they just take the time to just finish a game??

    • Well they were given that to make GT5 and it didn’t go down so well.

  74. OrangeSquid

    Am i the only one here who’s excited for the new night racing experience???

    • BlindZenDriver

      Certainly not.

      I am hoping for reflective surfaces to be reflective, Low and high beams of others to be visible in multplayer (so you can flash at the one you want to stress/pass)…

  75. japlkofk69

    Wait wait wait…..no file transfer because GT5 has already been cracked?
    Please tell me that this is not what I think it is, could someone explain this? lol

    • Your GT5 game save will not be compatible with GT6. So you will have to start your garage from scratch. Makes sense because what would be the point of playing the new GT6 if you have a full garage minus the new inclusions!

    • BlindZenDriver

      Perhaps if you share what you think then someone can explain :-)

    • GTP_Versatile

      I’m assuming he’s referring to all the hacking/tampering with the cars in GT5 (Stage 4 Turbo parts, racing super soft tires, default spoiler/bumper removal etc.)

      I think he made the right choice with this decision.

    • there hasn’t been file transfer since GT5

  76. All I can think of is the Update includes changes to the sound of the Honda Weider HSV…

  77. cyberfella

    The sounds aren’t that bad. The problem is the sounds in (what i call) bumper/dials view. If you switch to the (what i call) bonnet view, the sounds are MUCH better (on premiums at least). The trouble is, I can’t play it without dials, so I, like everyone else, plays it in that view mode.

    All Kaz has to do is use the same sounds in bumper view mode that are used in bonnet view mode and voila, thats GT5 fixed.

    For GT6, just add tranny whine and brake squeal to race cars / stage 3 modified / adjustable transmission cars too, and a choice of blow off valves on mid and large turbos settings to keep the boy racers and drifters happy please.

    thats it.

  78. reaperman

    I recently picked up one of those simulated 5.1 headsets to improve my online gaming. Oh it works great on most games. But don’t bother on gt5 (or gt6, I suppose). It doesn’t seem to give a thing over a stereo gaming headset. If gt5 even has 5.1 audio, they did a terrible job with it. There are even some replay cameras where I suspect the channels are reversed.

  79. karelpipa

    What is the point of changing the already “too real” sounds anyway?

    • Because apparently they’re not real enough.

    • TokoTurismo

      You REALLY haven’t read what Famine said about what Kaz meant by that after all, have you……

    • ZoidFile

      The word “perfect” that Katzunori used is a rather rough translation. He actually means that the engine sounds to “clean” and “regular” or “artificial”. Its hard to make a digital interpretation of an analog machine. If one has ever driven an 2 stroke car, one would now how “random” an engine actually sounds.

    • eran0004

      Because “real” is not the same as “good”. “Too real” is actually a negative thing. Even “too good” would be something bad…

    • karelpipa

      Some games showed that they are more than capable to somehow do very good (too good?) sound of cars.

      Yes, they should focus to “model” the sounds on PC to sound good (i.e. big block V8 with the characteristic idle burble sound), than record them on dyno. Listen to them, then “model” them. I think it would work better.

  80. I believe what Kazunori means by this is not that you will see the realistic sounds you’ve been all wanting, but rather a change to the sounds, much like what happen to a few select cars in GT5.

  81. Coenraad

    Hurray, new sounds to come.

  82. Codename6

    We get the sounds of vacuum cleaners on release! booo

    • ScotteDawg

      V8 & V12 vacuums? Man, you must have some pretty juiced up home appliances! How about you go play with them instead of using the same old, worn out “jokes”!

    • MeanElf

      It’s because he broke both his legs with the V8 vacuum cleaner and so can’t do anything by hang around on forums for the next six weeks…

  83. sind3ntosca

    Another great news ^_^ …keep ‘em coming :)

  84. mickoafna

    I would really like to know if there’ll be a money gap? I don’t want it to be and if it’ll be, make it at least 999 million.

  85. karelpipa

    So more and more to just wait till the really finished GT6 will be available for buy.

  86. Cervelostar

    When I read on this site that the cars no longer sound like vacuum cleaners, then I will buy it. Until then, I’m sticking with Forza4. Even though I HATE Microsoft.

    • ScotteDawg

      You stay with Forza then, you won’t be missed!

    • MeanElf

      You not likely to get consensus here, there will always be dissenters…as well as uninformed opinions.

  87. Rage9one

    New sounds are coming! Haters are getting owned!

  88. Freemanroad1986

    Simples just get FORZA :-)

    • I would but I don’t want to have to pay for an x box one to get a game. I still have fm4 though.

    • Droogie

      I don’t want to go on the XBAX three-sixty because there are no games other than Halo and the game that sounds like pizza.

    • Rage9one

      Simply get forza? Yeah, go ahead and play your little arcade game while we play GT – a real simulator.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Rage9one: Done being ignorant?

    • Droogie

      ^^^ Butthurt Xbox fan.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Not butthurt at all. People who say Forza is arcade while passing off GT as a sim really don’t know what they’re talking about.

    • MuoNiuLa

      Oh, and for the record, I am an Xbox fan. But I’m a Playstayion fan as well.

    • TokoTurismo

      ^ Now THAT’S you call a true fan, right there people. ;)

  89. Well thats’s disappointing now isn’t it. I was really hoping for better sounds day one. I will still be getting the game but it just won’t be as enjoyable imo.

  90. Lol. And with years since GT5 came out, the game still isn’t finished.

    • MeanElf

      Hate to beak it to you, but this isn’t the same game…

  91. Madertus

    As long as the game is released on time and as long as it’s more fun than GT5, I’m not complaining. I’m sure there will be some great noises to hear even without the update.

  92. TheKitten

    I meant finding dis article?

  93. fet_thunderdome

    i think customers should appreciate this kind of policy, not moneymaker one by EA. he’s not announcing wild DLCs at D1, but a free update (not dued) for car sounds. not a bad move in my opinion.

  94. Jawehawk

    Can’t say I’m to thrilled at this. I mean, it’s nice to know they’re working on it, but I’d really love to know how it is taking this long.

  95. VetteZR1

    If they only could do something about the sound of the whiners complaining about everything GT. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  96. TokoTurismo

    My thoughts excatly, and it does look like PD are doing their best on making new sounds. I knew all a long they will be adding the new sounds in later, via update.

  97. Cosbuster

    From “could be there for release” we went to “could be in an update”. Wouldn’t be surprised if the next update on the issue said “will definitely be there for GT7″.

    • CodeName

      -1. It was never mentioned to be at release

    • ScotteDawg

      -1 from me too!

      @ Cosbuster – READ the article before you comment! Click on the link and read that too!

  98. Droogie

    Social degenerates whining about the sounds incoming at 3, 2, 1…

  99. PAPPACLART

    Thats some welcome news as at least they have acknowledged the sound issue

  100. Im happy they’re working on the sounds, even if they wont be ready right away.


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