Where's the fresh trout. We need to swing it at someone. I would like noting better than this. It only took me 5 minutes on each combo to figure out they would top out (alone in the case of the Alpine and with any draft at all with the Lotus). Basically what has happened is we have two guys who couldn't take five minutes out of their day to make an informed decision about something that would affect 90+ other people or we have two guys that just don't know what to look for when picking a combo. Way to go guys.