Open ◆ SNAIL [Spec] Racing - Presented by ButtKicker: Feel What You've Been Missing

Discussion in 'SNAIL Racing League' started by zer05ive, Dec 13, 2011.

  1. CoachMK21

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    As many of you know (from my constant posting), that my family and I built a ChumpCar race car out of a 1993 Volvo 940 Turbo. We started on August 30th and completed our journey at the completion of the ChumpCar race at Watkins Glen International this past weekend at the 7+7 (hours) endurance race.

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    When we arrived on Friday, we unloaded all our gear and the car, then took the car to tech. This is where they inspect everything you've done and if they don't like it, you have to fix it or you don't race. Lucky for us, we only had to tape a couple wires on the starter. Everything went well and we got our penalty, 27 laps. You see, in ChumpCar, the base point total is 500. If your car is 500 points, you start with a 0 lap penalty. Our base value for our car was 450. We did 230 points of improvements, which equaled 180 points over the limit. This race had a 1.5 times multiplier, so that meant we were 270 points over, which is 27 laps in the hole. We'll be filing a request to re-evalutate the 450 point starting value over the winter.

    The race morning was hectic to say the least. We had a drivers meeting at 8 am, then we could get the car started and driver set up at 8:45 with 2 parade laps starting at 8:55. My Uncle, Walt is the car owner, so he went first. The plan was for him to race about 10 laps, then I would head out for an hour stint. On lap 1, he passed the first car in Krueger Tuned Racing ChumpCar history. Then it went downhill quick. Heading into turn 11, he heard a pop and then the oil pressure went to 0. He brought the car into the pits, shut it off and we started to diagnose the problem. One of our other drivers, Don is a Volvo mechanic, so he knows pretty much everything there is to know. He checked several things and we decided the best thing to do was raise the motor up so we could get the oil pan out. My brother, Chuck and cousin JC took one of our trucks back to our shop (90 minutes away) to get the other motor in case we needed it. Turns out, our engine builder didn't clean the oil pan thoroughly and it clogged the metal vent. 3 hours and 13 minutes later, I was out on the track.

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    It had been raining all morning and even snowed a little. I had a limited amount of time now, since my oldest son was running in the Sectional Championships for Cross Country at Victor. I ran 8 laps total with a best lap of 3:09.29. That's pretty slow, but I wasn't about to push the limits only to end up in the Armco, like some others did. The car still wasn't right, however. When you put your foot to the floor, the fuel would cut out. At first I thought it was a transmission issue. Turns out, the turbo was creating too much boost.

    So I took off and rushed to his race. I actually got pulled over on the way, going 75 (in a 55) as the State Trooper told me. Luckily, he left me off with a warning, because "I was honest". My son ran his best race and was the teams 6th man, so that was great for him.

    Meanwhile, Don, JC and Chuck all got a turn on the track. They all experienced the same turbo/fuel issue I had. Chuck had the fastest times in the wet, with a couple 2:54's.

    We had dinner at Seneca Lodge. This is an amazing place. There is so much racing history in the bar area. F1, CanAm, NASCAR, etc all spent nights here. If you ever visit Watkins Glen, be sure to stop here.
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    The garage area on Sunday morning, prior to anyone being up. It was so peaceful. But, this time change messed me up.

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    Sunday came and at our drivers meeting we were told they would be delaying the start of the race due to ice on the track in 3 spots. They told us to get our regular cars out and get on the track for some caution speed laps to warm it up. It was cool to be out there in my minivan and slow speed with 100 others vehicles.

    A friend of my Uncle, Pete was the first driver out. He ran a couple laps, then we brought the car into the garage to install a boost gauge, so we would know exactly how much we were making. We had to do it this way, since we weren't allowed to do any work on the car until after the green flag dropped. If we did, it would mean a 60 minute penalty. On his first lap by, he gave us a hand signal which meant 15 psi of boost. Stock is 8 and the injectors are only rated to 12. Fuel was cutting out at 15. Now we had to feather the gas to keep the boost less than 15, preferable in the 10-12 range. He ran mid to high 2:40's for his laps in the dry conditions.

    Boost gauge going in.
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    I went next and found it was a major pain to glance at the gauge, while checking mirrors for cars passing me, as well as managing to race with 1/2 - 3/4 throttle. I got into a decent rhythm and ran some good, consistent laps. I did 17 laps, with a best of 2:37.24. But we encountered another issue. After about 40 minutes of racing, the car acted like it was out of fuel (bogging down) on the longer / hard right hand turns - 3 of them. We're not sure what this issue was being caused by, so we just came into the pits to top off the fuel every 40 minutes. This was only using 8 gallons and it's a 20 gallon tank.

    JC went next and had a best lap of 2:38.75. Don ran after that with a best lap of 2:41.16 and then Chuck finished off the race. His best time was 2:37.93. We finished 36th overall, and 18th out of the non-chumpionship cars. We certainly would have been higher up, if we weren't in the garage for 5 hours of the 13 hours. We completed 136 laps, while the winner finished 271.

    Here are a few more pictures and a video of my best 2 laps, which were back to back.

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    Out of turn 11, on to the main straight.

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    Here is the video of my fastest 2 laps, which were back to back. Laps 82 and 83 overall.




    Thank you to everyone for your support.
     
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  2. zer05ive

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    LMAO!! I wonder how long both of us were sitting there waiting for that same TOPP :lol:

    You win.. :)

    This time.. :mischievous:
     
  3. Dragonwhisky

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    Newbs.

    On another note, not worthy of a TOPP or STOPP.

    To all Data Specialists, frustrated by the constant and irritating sheet reloads when entering timing data, a refinement to the Total Time calculation has been worked out by @msgt-sd , tested in the D1 Results tab and rolled in to every other division tab. At this time, you should not have those pesky reload issues when entering gaps and no special steps need be taken to work around them. Just enter the gaps as they are shown in the replays. It shouldn't matter anymore whether the Total Time in row 6 is entered or not. If anyone has issues when entering gaps, please let us know.

    If anyone wonders how to get the total time from the replays, when it hasn't been entered during scoring on Sunday night, please PM me and I'll let you know how it's done.
     
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  4. Falango

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    Reported for spam :p
     
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  5. Dragonwhisky

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    Reported for reporting spam that is not. :p:p
     
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  6. USERID_77a23

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  7. zer05ive

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  8. Falango

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    I take out the total time when putting in gaps to avoid those insane reloads and errors, and they would still happen. Next week I'll let you know how things go. :tup:
     
  9. Dragonwhisky

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    That was the most efficient workaround to only getting a maximum of 6 page reloads during data entry. It shouldn't do it at all now. We'll see how it acts when we have 4 weeks worth of sheets in there and 50 bajillion formulas running rampant.

    Oh yeah, the winners gap can now be entered simply as 0.

    You tryin' ta make me barf again? :yuck:
     
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  10. Falango

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    But I really enjoyed putting in 0:00.000 :(
     
  11. Dragonwhisky

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    Ok. Just for you, you can still put it in that way, if you really, really want to. It'll still work.
     
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  12. Falango

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    Thanks Dragon! :p /sarcasm
     
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  13. Handlebar

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    That was good, wasn't it? ... Or did I miss something again?
     
  14. Dragonwhisky

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    No charge. :sly:

    Wut? :confused::lol:
     
  15. nmcp1

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    Prize A Selection

    Car: Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 '85

    PP415 HP210 (After Oil Change)
    Sports Hard Tires


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    Track: Grand Valley East (Forward)

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  16. IceManFan_7

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    Division 7
    12- @TBongX (248)
    14- @Skills (246) (At-Large)
    alt1- @aerolite (233.1) - E - In via @SHOCKY_WELL being out

    Division 8
    13- @SHOCKY_WELL (259.1)
    alt3- @Mike Lobban (231) - C - In via @chevron being out
    alt4- @vsfit (231) - E


    Confirmed drivers will be in bold
    Scratched drivers will be crossed out


    Driver Selection Process:
    1- (10) Top 2 in divisions 1-5
    2- (03) Winner in divisions 6-8
    3- (02) Two At-Large Bids (AL) - Highest season point total of a non-automatic driver (can not be from same division)


    Alternate ranking determined by:
    1- First non-automatic or at-large place finishers in order of points scored for the month
    2- Second non-automatic or at-large place finishers in order of points scored for the month


    COMBO Selection
    Two combos are set. The third will be selected by driver vote.

    - Autobacs Garaiya at Nurburgring GP/D (2 weeks)
    --- 326HP / PP 490 / RH tires

    - West Surrey Racing 1983 Aryton Senna '83 at Silverstone Grand Prix Circuit (3 weeks)
    --- 172HP / PP 559 / RH tires


    VOTE for ONE of the following:

    A- Izuzu Bellet GT-R '69 at Autunm Ring
    --- 124HP / PP 358 / SH tires

    B- Nissan Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '07 at Brands Hatch Grand Prix Circuit - 6
    --- 326HP / PP 463 / SM tires

    C- Nissan Skyline GT-S type M (Z32) '89 at Mazda Raceway Leguna Seca - 1
    --- 222HP / PP 415 / SH tires

    D- Alfa Romeo 8c Competizione '08 at Cape Ring Periphery - 1
    --- 465HP / PP 507 / SS tires

    E- Aston Martin V12 Vantage '10 at Red Bull Ring - 6
    --- 535HP / PP 528 / SS tires



    I will continue to update this post. Bookmark it to find it easily.

    If I "Like" your post, I have recorded your decision.
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    I will be able to attend. I never thought I would make a Race of Champions, go figure. I vote for: D-Alfa Romeo 8c Competizione '08 at Cape Ring Periphery, 465HP / PP 507 / SS tires.[/QUOTE]


    I'm in. I vote for B.
     
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  17. Falango

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    Starting up a room shortly with this :D
     
  18. IceWarden

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    You just exploded my brain.

    Love this car so much. I was just telling everyone in DTC tonight how this would be my car choice if I ever won Prize A.

    Nice work. It's a great car if you learn how to drive it properly...it will bite you if you don't :)
     
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  19. Falango

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    Practice room up

    1472-6681-3415-7082-6457
     
  20. Wolfsatz

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    I am conceding Prize B to
    @llNovall
     
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  21. JLBowler

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    Do you mean you are giving him the freeze?
     
  22. Wolfsatz

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    yes.

    BTW.. thanks for all the Snails that came in for testing night. Makes a whole difference to test with a lot of drivers than just a couple. Thanks all, it was very fun.
     
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  23. Rednose58

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    Prelim Nov 9.png Line-up is shaping up.....

    Final order will depend on the car chosen by @Wolfsatz or @llNovall

    The lap time for the Peu is just a wild a$$ guess. I need real times please @Falango
     
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  25. CoachMK21

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    Finally finished the KTR summary. Check out the Top Post!
     
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  26. Falango

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    @Rednose58

    Times for the 205 are around high 1:16s and low 1:17s for D1-D2 folk, maybe 1:18s for mid pack? 7 lap races were around 9:10 for us, so this would be an 8 lap race.
     
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  27. JJLopez427

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    Great pictures! :)
    And thank you very much! Im not fast but I try to enjoy every race, and then the Best results come by themselves. :)
     
  28. Falango

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    Congrats on completing the race! That is definitely a feat in itself, and working through all those problems you encountered is perseverance at its finest. Reading stories like this makes me want to build a race car more and more every time! I just wish we had some decent tracks out here in Vancouver. We have one short course about an hour from Vancouver, but that's it unless I drive a few more hours.
     
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  29. RobbiefromBC

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    Short, but challenging... Once you get past all the concrete, the track can be run at a pretty quick pace
     
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  30. llNovall

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    My prize selection is to freeze the track.
     
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