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So what happens if someone gets a pit glitch? Do they need to wait until everyone else has left. If it’s up to the driver behind to create that 5 second gap and the guy in front has the pit glitch so they continue to wait?

What do we do like BB Raceway for instance if we need to run 2 groups of qually. Do they stay in the menu screen awaiting the first group to finish.
When you say start qually, does everyone stay in the menu screen and enter after the car ahead starts, or is everyone to enter the course and await their time to leave.

How do we determine who goes when the car parked next to us in the pits goes, (if we are to enter course and not wait in menu screen.)

With long pit roads, do we count 5 seconds when the car is officially on track, or when the car leaves the pit stall?
 
Neutty
So what happens if someone gets a pit glitch? Do they need to wait until everyone else has left. If it’s up to the driver behind to create that 5 second gap and the guy in front has the pit glitch so they continue to wait?

What do we do like BB Raceway for instance if we need to run 2 groups of qually. Do they stay in the menu screen awaiting the first group to finish.
When you say start qually, does everyone stay in the menu screen and enter after the car ahead starts, or is everyone to enter the course and await their time to leave.

How do we determine who goes when the car parked next to us in the pits goes, (if we are to enter course and not wait in menu screen.)

With long pit roads, do we count 5 seconds when the car is officially on track, or when the car leaves the pit stall?
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The scorekeeper goes, then everyone else goes, then the host goes. It is up to the behind driver to establish the 5 second gap during the out lap. If someone is stuck, it's the same as being stuck on the grid for a race.

If there are multiple groups, we use the same procedure we have now. First group starts when the host says so and then the second group starts when the host says so.
 
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So, I’m still confused so I am going to guess on a few things.

Qualifying starts, “EVERYBODY enters the course, and the scorekeeper goes, this would mean that nobody is in the menu. How do we determine who goes next, and then next and then next?

Do we just wait till someone goes? If nobody goes then 3 of us decide to go, then we have a cluster outside the pits, then others in the pits would go, then more of a pile outside of the pits, then we are back to the old system at that point.

The old system had us lined up and we knew who was next. Now we have no idea who’s suppose to go.
 
Neutty
So, I’m still confused so I am going to guess on a few things.

Qualifying starts, “EVERYBODY enters the course, and the scorekeeper goes, this would mean that nobody is in the menu. How do we determine who goes next, and then next and then next?

Do we just wait till someone goes? If nobody goes then 3 of us decide to go, then we have a cluster outside the pits, then others in the pits would go, then more of a pile outside of the pits, then we are back to the old system at that point.

The old system had us lined up and we knew who was next. Now we have no idea who’s suppose to go.
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There is no who goes next. This part is taken right from the text.

Once the scorekeeper has begun his out lap and qualifying, all drivers lined up on pit road will leave pit road and create a sufficient, 5 seconds, gap to the car ahead and behind during the out lap.

Everybody but the scorekeeper and host leave the pits at the same time and build the gaps during the out lap.
 
JLBowler
There is no who goes next. This part is taken right from the text.

Once the scorekeeper has begun his out lap and qualifying, all drivers lined up on pit road will leave pit road and create a sufficient, 5 seconds, gap to the car ahead and behind during the out lap.

Everybody but the scorekeeper and host leave the pits at the same time and build the gaps during the out lap.
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Now that the bullet point before that one is gone it all makes sense now. Before following the bullet point ahead of the one you posted it read and sounded different to me. Thank you.
 
With Broad Bean combo around 40 seconds per lap, the max number of drivers per qually should not be more than 6

With the Scorekeeper going first in the first group and the Host going last in the final group, the Rest will split up evenly between the two groups. The easiest to identify your group is to look at the list of drivers on the right hand side while you entered the race, but you are still in the lobby screen. The Host will be No.1 and you will know who the scorekeeper is. (For example: if you have 11 people in the room, then lets assume the scorekeeper is no 4) With 11 people in the lobby, the first group will be 6 people and the second group will be 5 people. When the host types to "Start Qually" the Scorekeeper (No 4) Press "Enter Course" and immediately starts the out lap. When the next 5 people (Nos 2, 3, 4, 6 and 7) see the scorekeeper goes, they all press "Enter Course" and immediately start their out laps. During the out lap each one builds a sufficient gap to the driver ahead before they start the hot laps. (With such a short track I recommend that you try and exit in the number order and make sure to have a proper gap early in the out lap so that you are not compromised on your hot lap. Do not try and draft the driver ahead.....)

The rest of the drivers remain in the lobby screen and follows the progress on the track map. The second group can start their out lap any time after the last driver in the first group started his hot lap. The host will type when the second group can start. They (Nos 8, 9, 10, 11) all leave at the same time (followed by the Host (No 1) and quickly build a gap to the driver ahead on the out lap before they start their hot laps.

If you have 13 or more drivers, then you need 3 groups

Advantages: For Round 1 the total qually time might be similar to the previous procedure, but at least you will start your out lap on hot tires (especially the second group). I think we will save time on Round 2 and Round 3 qually plus you will start the out lap on hot tires.

The 50 sec count down is to save time.

The reason for the time saving is to make the races slightly longer. We now have a 13 minute limit on race duration vs. a 12 minute limit in the past.
 
All hosts should start tonight's racing at the scheduled time. The only reason to hold the start is to give someone who was already in the lobby their three minutes to return from the time they left, provided they are believed to have been disconnected, or to sort invisible driver issues.
 
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Scores for Dec 1 have been copied to Data

Summary here


Also: Data for D1 for Dec 3 is in the books
 
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@JLBowler @Rednose58 I am liking the new Qualifying format. It went through smoothly for me as Host for everyone to sit in the pits till the clear is given and each driver just exits the pits automatically starting the qualifying. No need to pull off to the first turn or so the way the previous format was run. I don't know if others like the new format for Qualifying but the new format is more stream lined if that makes any sense. Able to as well to monitor if any non members come into the room. Under the previous format, i would have to leave the track and back into the lobby if a non member entered the track on official race night but the new format makes it easier to tell if a non member enters the track and more faster to take care of the issues in the room.
 
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UPCOMING RACE​

12/3
Week 8
Suzuka Circuit
15:45 Fine Weather
(Spec) N400
911 GT3 (996) 01’
Sport tires
start type - Grid Start w/ False start check
Tire Wear - 1x
Fuel Wear - 1x


Confirmations are open and will close Tuesday (12/3) at 8:00pm EST. Click HERE to confirm.
 
JLBowler
After much discussion and testing during Thursday practice nights, the BoD has decided to implement the following changes to our Sunday night racing. These changes affect the way in which we qualify, the method for determining the number of race laps, and the amount of time that will be allowed after the winner finishes their race.

Qualifying Rules
  • Prior to the first race of each combo drivers must enter the race (press Check Mark button) but not enter the course.
  • Once it is verified that all the drivers can see each other as entered into the race (each driver will have a number against their name), the host will give the instruction to start qualifying and the scorekeeper will be the first driver to exit pit road and begin their qualifying (drivers start qualifying by pressing the "enter course" button).
  • Once the scorekeeper has begun his out lap and qualifying, all drivers lined up on pit road will leave pit road and create a sufficient, 5 seconds, gap to the car ahead and behind during the out lap.
  • The host will then begin their out lap and qualifying.
  • The host will be the last driver to begin their qualifying session.
  • It is the responsibility of the behind driver to build the 5 second gap on the out lap.
  • Once drivers have finished their hot lap, they should pull off the track and come to a complete stop in a location that will not distract any other drivers, including a potential second qualifying group.

Qualifying is not the race. If you get caught from behind during the qualifying session you must allow the driver to pass without incident or opposition.

Method for Determining Race Laps

Race laps will be determined by taking the average mid-division lap time and running as many laps as possible without going over 13 minutes. Example: If the average mid-division lap time is 1:45 the number of laps will be 7. The formula is more or less as follows: 780 seconds divided by lap time in seconds. We will take the whole number and drop anything past the decimal point and that is the number of laps. Under no circumstances will the average lap time multiplied by the number of laps give us a number greater than 780 seconds which is 13 minutes.

Lobby Settings

The race finish delay will now be set to 50 seconds.


These changes will be added to the SNAIL OLR P&G thread in their respective sections at some time today. All hosts will need to make the necessary changes to their room setup to allow for the new method of calculating race laps.
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The below data table applies what I call "JL's formula" for determining laps for a 13 minute race based on mid-division lap time.

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