Sports Cars 2020 Endurance Racing Discussion Thread - WEC, ELMS etc

Discussion in 'Motorsport' started by Kowhai, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. TheElbows

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    Sebring is such a great track....it eats cars alive, bringing far more of the "endurance" aspect to the race which is lost on some circuits. Love it.

    PS: The "Project One" is neat, but they'd have to do some miraculous stuff for those to outstrip LMP2 cars and those are pretty successful at the moment it seems (and pretty high performance). It's a neat concept though. I would love to see a spec of GT car which is purposefully higher than GTE.
     
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    If Toyota wasn't already feeling the pressure ahead of this year's Le Mans... oh boy.
     
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    Next stop, driving a Lexus in SuperGT. :sly:
     
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    It seems like it's just getting uglier and uglier lol
     
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  9. jake2013guy

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    It's got eyebrows.

    Anyway. Porsche news.
     
  10. DesertPenguin

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    Why are Toyota's colors black, white, and red?
     
  11. Jakedog23

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    Because Gazoo Racing is Black, Red, and White...and who makes the TS050...? Gazoo Racing
     
  12. DesertPenguin

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    Lol, I could have just asked why are Gazoo's colors black, white, and red. Toyota has some great classic liveries and I'm not saying to copy them but use the colors they used.
     
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    Which used... Red and white...
     
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  14. DesertPenguin

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    There are these to take inspiration from, but mainly just this one

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    It would be cool to see other colors for once, between all three teams actually.
     
  15. flip55

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    I'd be down for a white/red/orange/yellow scheme. But in fairness, Toyota GT1 and LMP cars from around the 2000s were red and white. Edit: And I'm pretty sure the last time they were in F1, as well.
    Sponsors also play a large part, of course. Mobil 1 might not be too thrilled if the new car turns out to be white with a green and red swoopy design.
     
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  16. catamount39

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    Those are all liveries of TEAMS that raced Toyota's. Toyota's LMP1 team is run by Gazoo, and therefor they're running Gazoo's colors.
     
  17. sumbrownkid

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    The 2017 livery looked better on the TS050.
     
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    Ah, okay. I thought they were all factory eforts
     
  19. catamount39

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    Factory backed like Gazoo in some cases yes. But even then Toyota's always been red and white (Toyota F1 team, the Supra GT1 car, the TS010, TS020).
     
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    I am not a fan of the front of the new Toyota Gazoo WEC livery. The red shrouds look cheap and it makes it look more blunt.

    If Toyota really wanted to go with a white nose while retaining some red then I cannot help that this would be a better option.

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    Gazoo is Toyota. Gazoo Racing is basically their grassroots terminology for Toyota's motorsports. The WRC team uses the same terminology. I think the livery is better this year, it's more striking. Especially so in motion-

     
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    10 LMP1 teams for the super season

     
  24. Tired Tyres

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    Many of those 36 are GTE's. No bad thing.... As long as the TV director isn't busy showing an LMP1 on it's own miles in the lead.
     
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    If there is one miles ahead. There's 10 of them, so there's bound to be a battle in the class regardless of what you feel about Toyota's speed vs the others, which is still an unknown right now anyway.
     
  26. Northstar

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    That doesn’t change the fact TV directors tend to have issues with multi class racing. If you watched Bathurst you’ll know what I’m talking about.
     
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  27. sumbrownkid

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    Le Mans Test Day should be the most interesting one yet.

    I however believe the TS050 still has plenty of pace in it even if ACO took away energy allotment. The privateers I feel are the ones who have to balance outright speed or reliability. Ever since Porsche left all Toyota focused on was reliability, Alonso, and how to make fans hate a livery.

    Oh and people are not taking the Fuji date in a happy way.
     
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  28. Mike458

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    Will the Toyotas break down at Le Mans? Yes or no?

    Also I hope that the GTE BoP is on point... after Daytona (assuming that the BoP between IMSA GTLM and WEC GTE is the same), I'm not looking that optimistic...
     
  29. sumbrownkid

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    The BoP of that race was on point barring the BMW M8. The Ford's are just better suited to long straights. Can't BoP basic phyics easily.

    I think the Ferrari had the fastest lap or Corvette. But the Fords were able to do fast laps for more laps that separated them from the herd while at the same time be kinder to its tires.
     
  30. Northstar

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    It didn’t help that Ganassi was Audi-Joest levels of consistent.