2023-24 Formula 1 Off-Track Thread

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Formula One Management is based in Britain (Biggin Hill).
7/10 Teams are based in Britain, heavily relying on British staff and industry.
The series' main media outlet is the British broadcaster (Sky) which has since switched to F1TV which still is predominantly pundited by British media personalities.
The series conducts all its interviews and team radios in English. All writing on the graphics is provided in English and British media is often the first to get interviews with personalities in the Pitlane.
Four drivers on the grid are British (plus Albon kinda), all of which are/have been driving in the top teams this year. The most other nations have is 2.
Most journalism for the series is conducted in English, and due to proximity with teams and the cultural significant in the country, a lot of journalists are therefore British and report to British publications.

This is pathetic selective bias. When you only consume media from one nation in an International series, you'll obviously find it to focus on the popular drivers from that nation. Nobody really complains about a broadcaster focusing mostly on their national athletes at the Olympics. The broadcaster will always try to represent the people the viewers are interested in in a good light. Sounds like MBS only gets his news from Sky Sports and Autosport, who primarily focus on their main audience of the UK.

The series doesn't have a "British Bias", it is a British series (featuring Italy) which is worldwide. Does the Netherlands have a Dutch bias in its media? Does Italy have a Ferrari bias in its media? Would an American broadcast want interviews from Logan Sargeant more than other nations? What about the skyrocketing Argentinian broadcasts in the last three races?

Decrying the issue as "bias for a specific nation" completely misses the point and is trying to add malice to something that is merely a consequence of just how the series is.

Will Sky/F1TV cheer more if Norris wins the title than is Max does? Probably yes. Is that British Bias, or is that just the consequences of employing a load of British journalists to produce coverage for a British audience who want British drivers to do well and getting them to then extend to worldwide.

Of course my essay above also has selection bias to it too. I am British, I live in the UK, watch the British coverage of races and get my news on F1 through English-speaking media. But unlike MBS, I understand why there is significantly more attention given to British drivers in it. This is the consequence of many decades of industry and rule changes.

Anyway, I hope we can properly cash in on this British Bias and get a second Grand Prix in the UK lol
 
Formula One Management is based in Britain (Biggin Hill).
7/10 Teams are based in Britain, heavily relying on British staff and industry.
The series' main media outlet is the British broadcaster (Sky) which has since switched to F1TV which still is predominantly pundited by British media personalities.
The series conducts all its interviews and team radios in English. All writing on the graphics is provided in English and British media is often the first to get interviews with personalities in the Pitlane.
Four drivers on the grid are British (plus Albon kinda), all of which are/have been driving in the top teams this year. The most other nations have is 2.
Most journalism for the series is conducted in English, and due to proximity with teams and the cultural significant in the country, a lot of journalists are therefore British and report to British publications.

This is pathetic selective bias. When you only consume media from one nation in an International series, you'll obviously find it to focus on the popular drivers from that nation. Nobody really complains about a broadcaster focusing mostly on their national athletes at the Olympics. The broadcaster will always try to represent the people the viewers are interested in in a good light. Sounds like MBS only gets his news from Sky Sports and Autosport, who primarily focus on their main audience of the UK.

The series doesn't have a "British Bias", it is a British series (featuring Italy) which is worldwide. Does the Netherlands have a Dutch bias in its media? Does Italy have a Ferrari bias in its media? Would an American broadcast want interviews from Logan Sargeant more than other nations? What about the skyrocketing Argentinian broadcasts in the last three races?

Decrying the issue as "bias for a specific nation" completely misses the point and is trying to add malice to something that is merely a consequence of just how the series is.

Will Sky/F1TV cheer more if Norris wins the title than is Max does? Probably yes. Is that British Bias, or is that just the consequences of employing a load of British journalists to produce coverage for a British audience who want British drivers to do well and getting them to then extend to worldwide.

Of course my essay above also has selection bias to it too. I am British, I live in the UK, watch the British coverage of races and get my news on F1 through English-speaking media. But unlike MBS, I understand why there is significantly more attention given to British drivers in it. This is the consequence of many decades of industry and rule changes.

Anyway, I hope we can properly cash in on this British Bias and get a second Grand Prix in the UK lol
This post needs to be sent to the FIA and MBS, because it is honestly the most perfect response possible.
 
F1TV is way more balanced than Sky F1.
Exactly. It caters for a wider audience than Sky does. All the reporting in the UK about British Bias is because Sky's exclusivity deal means we have to suffer their expensive and awful coverage rather than the better F1 TV which is only accessible through VPNs.
 
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Friends, remember the 2012 season when:

  • A big move by Hamilton to a new team is announced for a season right before a big regs shakeup
  • A French Driver at Team Enstone being abit of a menace.
  • Red Bull beginning to tear apart internally
  • There were 7 different winners before the summer break

Guess what's happened this season...

Sooo, you know what else happened in 2012? A driver getting a race ban. Take a guess at what just happened...
Admittingly this is reaching for the stars abit but...anyone remember the Madden Curse?
 

Give me an M, give me an O, give me an R, give me an O, give me an N. Give me a Mohammed Ben Sulayem.

Seriously, you've annoyed Verstappen, and last week you had Ogier complaining as well, last I checked neither were British.
They had an inquest after 2021 and found that some fans expectations of the sport were not correct.

Anyone choosing to watch For-Moolah-Won should not be swayed to incorrect bias, opinion or expectation by any press and should only have their opinions guided or dictated by the correct authority.

You might have thought you were upset about how things were being run, however, please be advised you were mistaken and you are in fact happy with everything ;)
 
Some minor regs changes for next year - no fastest lap point, 2 mandatory FP sessions for young drivers

 
Some minor regs changes for next year - no fastest lap point, 2 mandatory FP sessions for young drivers

Surprised they're ditching the fastest lap point.
 
I liked the idea of point for fastest lap, but in the end it was used to play too many games, so I don't think I'm going to miss it next year.
 
Oh no. I can just hear Crofty now, "Verstappen will get the tow in the Duracell DRS Zone". I'm sure more sponsorship of this kind will now follow.

I'm honestly surprised it took them this long to get around to it, given how much DRS zones pretty much dominate what happens on track now. Heck, I'm surprised the corners on the more recent city circuits haven't been given sponsored names to resemble the named corners on permanent racetracks.

"...and here comes Russell out of the Honda Mobility hairpin, he's got an excellent run on LeClerc through the Duracell DRS Zone as they dive into the Crypto.com Chicane, on their way now towards the twin apexes of Samsung and Nike Jordans..."
 
I'm honestly surprised it took them this long to get around to it, given how much DRS zones pretty much dominate what happens on track now. Heck, I'm surprised the corners on the more recent city circuits haven't been given sponsored names to resemble the named corners on permanent racetracks.

"...and here comes Russell out of the Honda Mobility hairpin, he's got an excellent run on LeClerc through the Duracell DRS Zone as they dive into the Crypto.com Chicane, on their way now towards the twin apexes of Samsung and Nike Jordans..."
You are terribly correct.

Sponsorship names kill any sense of permanence when you get used to one then it changes. Football stadiums have been in toxic decline for 20+ years [rant withheld] and I'm sure it's only a matter of time until corner names get ruined.
 
You are terribly correct.

Sponsorship names kill any sense of permanence when you get used to one then it changes. Football stadiums have been in toxic decline for 20+ years [rant withheld] and I'm sure it's only a matter of time until corner names get ruined.
bro has not heard of the Circuit de Catalunya
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But yeah keeping sponsors away from literally everything is a good bit of British Media bias we need to lean into. You can't overdo advertisements like that under OFCOM rules so let's lean there. We don't need the frigging V8 Supercar "KFC Zinger Replays" brought into F1.
 
What happened: Mercedes put some upgrades on Hamilton's car that didn't work well at COTA, so he had a bad race. Antonelli will be doing FP1 at Mexico as is required by the rules.

Clickbait headlines: CHAOS AT MERCEDES AS HAMILTON REPLACED AFTER DISASTROUS USGP

It's almost enough to make me actually want journalists to be replaced by generative AI sometimes...
 
You'd swear seven-time World Champion and universally successful Lewis Hamilton was being mistreated like a red-headed stepchild if the newz and soshul meedia is to be believed.

He's on his way out, yes, but he's a big man; a vastly experienced veteran. It doesn't need to be framed like this is the biggest injustice of his career.
 
I've learned that it's all clickbait for F1. When you click prepare for the actual tame news, 1 paragraph from the end of the "article".

The other one was the big Alonso retirement bombshell that dropped....early on he was planning to retire after his original stint at McLaren.
 

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