GTP_WRS Week 41 : Double Inline Six

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GT6 Week 41 : Double Inline Six

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Hotlap Event in Arcade Mode Time Trial

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BMW V12 LMR '99

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Circuit de la Sarthe 2013 / Weather: Variable / Time: Variable



:: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

:: Members are not obligated to take part ::


Race Details:
  • Mode: Arcade Mode > Single Player > Time Trial
  • Track: World Circuits > Circuit de la Sarthe 2013 / Weather: Variable / Time: Variable
  • Car Type: Garage/Favorites Car
  • Make: Germany > BMW
  • Model: V12 LMR '99
  • Power: 826 bhp (including oil change)
  • Weight: 900 kg
  • PP: 683
Driving Options:
  • Transmission: Auto or Manual
  • Tires: Racing Hard
  • Driving Line | Traction Control | ASM | ABS: Optional
  • Brake Balance: Optional
  • Active Steering | Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
  • Tuning: Allowed. All adjustable parts EXCEPT Transmission (reset to default) are allowed to be changed. Including Ballast. No Power Upgrade Parts Allowed
  • Improve Body Rigidity: Allowed
  • In-Race RA Functions: Allowed
  • Custom Wheels and Paint Not Available
Course Settings:
  • Time: Optional
  • Weather: 0% Weather at Race Start | 0 Changeability | 0% Surface Water at Race Start
  • Grip Reduction on Track Edge: Real


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Race Specifics:
  • The event MUST be run using your registered account
  • The use of the clutch that is found on the G25, G27, and other high end racing wheels is strictly prohibited.
  • Use of the Handbrake is Prohibited.
  • No Contact with walls or other objects. Any contact with walls, no matter how minor, will result in a DQ. This includes cones and bollards!
  • Tarmac and Blue and Yellow Rumble Strips are Track
  • No Other Surfaces are Track. See Below Details for additional boundary clarification.
  • Those who use these runoff areas without keeping at least 2 wheels on Tarmac or Rumble Strips will be DQ'd.
Trackside Left at Exit of Last Chicane/Start of Main Straight

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Right at Right Sweeper of Dunlop

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Left in Lefthand Turn of Dunlop

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Left at Exit of Dunlop

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Right Before Last Left of Esses, before Tertre Rogue

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DIRTY


Trackside Right of Tertre Rouge

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Left on Exit of Tertre Rouge

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Left on Approach to Mulsanne

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CLEAN


Trackside Left At Exit of Mulsanne


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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Left at Exit of Right in Indianapolis

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Trackside Left at Left Turn in Indianapolis

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DIRTY


Trackside Right on Exit of First Right of Porsche Curves

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DIRTY


Trackside Right on Exit of Last of Porsche Curves

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DIRTY


Trackside Right on Straight Next to Last Chicane


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CLEAN


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DIRTY


Right hand Side before Chicanes

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


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DIRTY


Chicanes

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CLEAN


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DIRTY


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CLEAN


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DIRTY



Steward's Comments:
1999. When petrol was still cheap.... ish.... and BMW won the 24 Hours of Le Mans. BMW created their first V12 engine, the M70 on 2 joint M20 inline sixes. That became the basis for the V12 monster that powered the McLaren F1 and also this V12 LMR. It's one of the fewer prototypes that has a naturally aspirated engine, so throttle response is quick but very drivable. Good luck! 👍


Viewing your T1 through T5 Time Splits:
  • You need to make sure you save the 'Save Best Lap Replay' (ghost replay), not the 'Save Replay' (See pic below)
  • To view your best lap replay, go to 'My Home' and watch the replay from there using the 'Gallery' option.
  • Live timing monitor does not work properly, so we have to use a small trick to view splits.
  • While viewing your Replay, pause the lap by hitting start, before the end of the first sector.
  • While keeping the replay paused, advance the replay, using the forward arrow on the replay HUD. This will advance the replay to the end of the first sector. That's your T1 split, write it down.
  • Advance the replay again. That will show the lap to date time on the screen, this is your first and second sector time, added together.
  • To post your T1 & T2 Splits, simply post the lap to date times that are shown in the middle of the screen. Do not try to calculate the actual T2 split time, the Fetchbot will do that for you.
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(Best Lap Replay Icon)


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Standard Clean OLR Rules:
  • At Least 2 Tires must be in contact with track at all times.

    • In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires in-line would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
    • If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
  • No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • If you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
  • No hybrids
  • No cheating of any kind,these are relaxed races and we are experienced racers, we know what times can be done,and we can read your mind.We will know.
  • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules

Thread rules:

The following information cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on IM services or via other private conversation methods):

  • Total Lap Time
  • Any information which can be used to infer your total laptime

The following information can be discussed in this thread :

  • The first 5 splits: T1 through T5 times
  • Any settings discussion

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Submission:

All submissions must be sent by PM (Subject title: GTP_WRS Week 41 Submission ) to (WRSFetchbot):

  • Then attach your 'Best Lap'/'Ghost' replay in zip file form. Everyone submits a replay instead of listing a lap time.
  • You will need to put something in the message body in order to begin a conversation. It doesn't matter what you put, it can even be 1 letter or symbol. Nobody but the Fetchbot is going to see it, so it's sort of pointless, anyhow.
  • You will get an automated response within 15min, letting you know whether your submission was accepted, or if you had an error.
  • If you have an error, don't panic. Just review the instructions for submission and submit again. If you are having trouble and cannot figure it out, please post your question in the race thread.
  • Users can ask the bot for the current submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Get Entry" and any text in the body.
  • Users can delete their submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Remove Entry" and any text in the body.
  • If you want to submit multiple times in the week that is still not a problem. Just reply to the conversation with your new time and new replay. Fetchy always uses the last submitted time as the final one.
  • See this screenshot as an example on how to submit:



  • The deadline is Monday, November 3rd 11:59pm GMT
  • If you are unsure of the deadline try this site

Why Use GMT?:


GMT is World Time and the basis of every world time zone which sets the time of day and is at the centre of the time zone map. GMT sets current time or official time around the globe. Most time changes are measured by GMT. Although GMT has been replaced by atomic time (UTC) it is still widely regarded as the correct time for every international time zone.
Replay Checking:

  • Everyone is required to submit a replay for verification. This happens when you submit to the Fetchbot, and the replays will be visible in the leaderboard, once we've reached the event deadline
  • Participants will be expected to check each others' replays for cleanliness, for replays marked in the Results thread as (Check Needed)
  • Video replays are not accepted as a form of verification

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Good luck, :gtplanet:

OLR Team
 
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:drool:

I'm not spectacular at throttle control (or this track!) so I'll definitely have to give this one a try 👍
Just keep the transmission stock and adjust any other parts to your liking. 👍
 
You Guy's are killing me, another expensive car to buy!! Grind Baby Grind...............It's a long way to Tipperary. :gtplanet:
 
1st Splits - Stock - Nothing Special, just trying to re-learn the track without using the driving line.
0:34.967
1:12.500
1:43.117
2:08.667
2:39.417
 
Ran the 97T F1 on Sarthe in free run yesterday so that's fortunate. Car all default.

31.817
1:07.134
1:35.484
1:58.884
2:28.134

Don't go onto the blue tarmac, much.
 
After a handful of mostly clean laps...

31.383
1'05.900
1'33.717
1'57.017
2'25.483

Pretty bad understeer out of the box. Softened the front springs a bit and also lowered the accel diff. This is going to be fun.
 
Great Combo! Love this, I hope my home improvement can take a frustration punch or two though:P

Edit: @PASM I can see you used some of my photography tips :P Nice work there also
 
After a handful of mostly clean laps...

31.383
1'05.900
1'33.717
1'57.017
2'25.483

Pretty bad understeer out of the box. Softened the front springs a bit and also lowered the accel diff. This is going to be fun.

To lower understeer you can decrease deceleration setting on the diff, raise the front ride height, and lower the rear toe in. I suggest to do only one of these at the time :)

Each of these affects the car at different part of the turn. Rear toe is good for turn exit, LSD decel for turn entry, ride height seems to be good everywhere.

I left the downforce out as that should be pretty clear.
Please note that I'm far from tunning expert especially when it comes to fast race cars.
 
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Thanks Mike. My tuning skills are limited at best and for now I'm just trying to get something driveable until more competent tuners post their tunes. I expect it's going to take something with less down force which I haven't touched yet.
 
First splits. Only lowered the stiffness and changed the brake balance. Everything else is stock until a tuning guru posts a tune.

30.116
1'03.583
1'30.866
1'53.316
2'21.050

This is a lot of fun with having to learn the braking points and throttle inputs.
 
First splits. Only lowered the stiffness and changed the brake balance. Everything else is stock until a tuning guru posts a tune.

30.116
1'03.583
1'30.866
1'53.316
2'21.050

This is a lot of fun with having to learn the braking points and throttle inputs.
It seems we are fairly close. :)

Using @Bleached's tune:

30.133
1'03.717
1'30.967
1'53.367
2'21.283
 
Using @Bleached tune. Need to tweek it slightly for my style. @praiano63 tune pulled to right under heavy brakeing. Anyway, lots more time to find by cutting down the squirrely bits.....

31.384
1'05.034
1'32.684
1'55.967
2'24.184
 
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