A British Touring Car Championship Game is Coming in 2021, Succeeds Original TOCA

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  1. MagpieRacer

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    No definitely not. Its a BTCC game. You buy into it knowing what you're getting. Chuck in a couple extra layouts from the tracks you're modelling anyway but it needs to stand on its own.
     
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    Along with the 2004 season, TOCA 2 was what helped me properly get into the BTCC. To hear that a spiritual successor is in the works is very pleasing considering the championship's absence from most later TOCA/GRID titles.

    If the developer turns out to be Slightly Mad, I sincerely hope they make it more playable on a controller than the original Project Cars.

    If the developer turns out to be Codemasters, I wouldn't mind if the physics/handling model was a mix of Dirt Rally 2.0 and Grid Autosport.
     
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    If done right, this could be a fantastic game. Been itching to see modern BTCC represented properly in its own game for many years now, so glad to hear it's starting to take shape. I do echo the sentiments that they should focus on making sure they properly replicate the current grid of NGTC cars before they even think about adding classic BTCC machines.

    Don't get me wrong it'd be great to race some the awesome Super Tourers or BTC-T era cars, but to be honest, there are so many top-notch mods that represents those cars so well, I don't think their a priority. At the end of the day, when I feel like driving a TWR Volvo S40 or the Prodrice Ford Mondeo's, I hope on Race 07 or GTR2 for example and have a blast (some of the best touring car mods around for those two games by the way).

    Besides, the current crop of BTCC cars are every bit as fantastic when it comes to the enjoyment factor, certainly as a spectator, and having had the pleasure of going to Donington Park to witness them in person, I can attest to that claim. Which would make me more eager to see them nail the sounds (I don't think the current cars sound bad at all, opposite if anything) and whole atmosphere the BTCC has more so. Also, I feel like the current BTCC is experiencing an equally golden era as it did in the Super Touring days, with some the best racing the sport has ever witness over the last decade or so, consistent 30 car grids, and an excellently stable rule set, would be rude not to try and replicate that in the virtual world.

    There is certainly enough content on the TOCA package to make a game in its own right outside of the BTCC itself, with the likes of the Ginetta Juniors and GT4 SuperCup, Porsche Carrera Cup, F4 and now the MINI Challenge to boot. Full seasons from each championship would be fantastic, working your way up to the BTCC and doing a full 30 race season in the BTCC itself, plenty of opportunity.

    That said I wouldn't mind the addition of some classic BTCC cars, be it BTC-T, Super Touring, Group A and beyond, wouldn't be shunned. They could be used to make classic BTCC events, à la to the classic events the recent F1 games have had in their career modes. It all comes down to execution, and crucially which studio will be making it, I feel like Codies are likely to be one of the main choices, and I feel probably the best fit to make it enjoyable to a wider audience. Just a case of hoping Codemasters are up to scratch and deliver on their goals if that is the case; especially how their reputation has been harshly under fire lately (one way of putting it :lol:). Will have to see either way, wait with bated breath for more news though :tup:.
     
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    But you have no idea of how many members are interested in older Motorsport, this fraction comment is just your opinion.

    Also I believe GTP covers all types of racing games not just those geared towards sim racing.

    And why do you have to be so abrasive & rude to those who have different opinions to you ? There's no need for it at all.
     
  5. MagpieRacer

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    The number of classic racing games tells me all I need to know.

    If you dont like my opinion or how I portray it, you know where the ignore button is.
     
  6. Jay84

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    Remind me to do this for Dirt5 XD
     
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    My First game on ps1 toca 1. April 1998.
     
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    TOCA WTC/Jarrett & Labonte SCR is my childhood!
     
  9. RaceFuchs

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    Never played the original games, i propably should have. Its too late for that now, but isnt it a shame what this series has become? I hope this new game will be a hardcore sim.
     
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    NGTC alone would be plenty fun enough. I'm not against cars from previous era's, but in a game like this, if they can't field a full of grid of cars from the same era, there's much less point, IMHO. A Grid full of Nescafe Renaults doesn't appeal that much... but I'd be up for a BTCC game in general.
     
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  11. Kevstah2004

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    You can’t play games just become they become old?
    dgVoodoo works wonders for compatibility & to render old games into HD/4K then there’s texture packs.

     
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  12. Tristan H

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    My main concern is the track list. While ACC also has a small track list it is superb, especially with the DLC. The BTCC track list is good, but nowhere near as good as ACC.

    Personally, I would love a new game with the Australian Supercars Championship, but combining BTCC and DTM would be an easier option.
     
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    I mean, the amount of tracks visited and time which they are visited in is short compared to Supercars.
     
  14. jake2013guy

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    I know. I was joking.
     
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    That's what I'm saying. I'm all for a current BTCC car game, but geez, me thinking about the Nissan and Honda, that's MY nostalgia. I'm not forcing it on anyone. Who knows what the content will be?

    Sorry not sorry for anyone if they DO decide to put a couple Super Tourers in the game.

    Anyway, we'll see what happens.
     
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    Great news!

    TOCA 2, Toca Race Driver 3 and original GRID - great times, great games!

    Even Swedish Touring Car Championship was good, though more realistic with GTR team developers.
     
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    That was a great help to learn the tracks on in winter. I rode Sviestad for 2 weeks before going there for a track day. Great help.
     
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    Rydell in a 97 Laguna.

    Seems legit.
     
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    Any bets on which developer will be behind this?

    - Codies is busy with F1 2020 and Dirt 5
    - SMS already has PCARS3 and F&F Crossroads
    - Kylotonn has their hands full with WRC9 and TDU3
    - Unlikely to be PD and T10 for obvious reasons
    - All the big sim developers like Kunos/Reiza/Sector3/Studio397 are too focused on their own games to make a side project like this

    That leaves Milestone as the only decent dev with racing background but all they've been making lately are bike games. If it's an indie developer we've never heard of, I wouldn't be so quick to jump for joy at this announcement because the game is likely going to be...erm...not so good, to put it politely.

    Also in the last few years alone we've heard annoucements for various games like GTR3 and GT Legends 2, but none of them came to fruition. What are the chances of this becoming another vaporware? :indiff:
     
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    I hope the racing itself will be exciting like it often was back then.

     
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    It'll have Codies involved one way or another. I doubt Alan Gow would take it outside the UK for development. Codemasters have a lot of good studios, if its looking at a late 2021 release then it could be one of the Dirt studios (maybe some of the Rally studio will be joined by the D5 guys once its out) or a using some of their resources from SMS. Codemasters entire team won't be simply working on 2 tagines coming out in the next 4 months.

    If there's more DR and SMS guys working on it then expect more of a sim. Opens up the possibility of using and modifying the madness engine with the dynamic time and weather which would be ideal for BTCC.
     
  22. er185es

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    Codemasters has an unannounced project of a new IP that will be used by Unreal Engine 4- https://codemasters.csod.com/ux/ats/careersite/2/home/requisition/157?c=codemasters

    Milestone plans to release a new IP in Summer 2021 based on the information revealed after its acquisition by THQ Nordic.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Interesting. My money is still on Codemasters, the mention of multilayer experience could be specific to that role or it'll be esports focused.

    Milestone would be a bit of a curveball, and when you look at their titles it doesn't exactly fit their style. But you never know.
     
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    Southam is their main facility so any major new IP would come through there. Birmingham is pretty much exclusively F1 studio. Cheshire is basically Evo Studios (onrush etc).
     
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    Could it be SimBin?

     
  27. Djuvinile

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    I bet SMS/Codies will do this, as project cars had almost all UK tracks allready.. Codemasters took over sms and sofar we didnt hear anything.. when i saw this post i immediatly thought this must be it..
     
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    Yeah petty sure they only need to do Thruxton and Croft to complete the track list.
     
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  29. David Wright

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    Very interesting information - thanks for sharing. It does beg the question, would a BTCC game be a new IP for Codies, given their past history of BTCC games. There must be a huge temptation to call it TOCA 3, or at least use the TOCA element.
     
  30. RaceFuchs

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    Actually, i play a lot of retro games lately. But these are mostly shooters and action games like Doom 93. Racing games and sports game are a different kind of beast IMO, i prefer the added realism of new titles over the retro appeal. Stuff like Outrun might be an exception.