Any reason to upgrade to PS5 for GT7 (vs PS4 Pro)

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If you could fire turtle shells at your opponents in Gran Turismo I wouldn't consider that a racing game either. You may as well add GTA to your list of "racing" games since like NFS it centers around evading the police in car chases and like Mario Kart you can fire at your opponents vehicles.
You're not going to change my opinion on this one. If there are "obstacles" like banana peels and cop cars it's not a racing game. Racing games are about out racing your opponent. Those games belong in the same category as Twist Metal. Car combat.
If you want to have the opinion that anything with weapons or obstacles isn't a racing game, best of luck to you. You're wrong, but nobody can stop you from being wrong.

I think you're getting confused between games where the objective is to destroy your opponents and games where the objective is to finish before your opponents. Just because a game has "weapons" doesn't mean the objective is to destroy, it's just another way of introducing interactivity to the game beyond simply ramming your opponents off the road. Likewise, just because a game has cars going fast doesn't mean it's a racing game.

Or you're not confused at all and you just want to be able to say that Gran Turismo is the most successful game, but you're not willing to admit that Gran Turismo is only the most successful in a fairly niche genre with very little in the way of AAA competition. Gran Turismo doesn't become a worse game just because Mario Kart is incredibly accessible to anyone with thumbs and Need for Speed has put out like 25 different games.

IMO, total franchise sales isn't a particularly good measure of quality or anything other than how many copies were "sold".
 
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The more gets revealed about GT7's PS5 capabilities, the more the potential gains from releasing on both PS4 and 5 are revealed to be boilerplate and don't do a good job of putting across how big of a leap into the next gen that GT7 could be, especially for those who probably tried to grab a PS5 knowing that GT7 was actually going to come. At the very least, Forza is being honest with themselves that the changes needed for the series can really only be achieved with going next gen only, and are focusing FM8 for that very purpose. With GT7, what was the point of latching onto the PS4 other then player base which might not even be enough for sales? Now you've hitched yourself to a system that actively reduces how much you can actually make a game next gen, and considering how long Polyphony takes to develop games, the first true 'next gen' GT game on PS5 might very likely be 75% of the way through the generation.

also lmfao at this thread turning into one guy seriously believing that games like NFS and Mario Kart aren't racing games. They absolutely are, and 99% of people on this planet, aside from a few sim poisoned brains on this forum, would agree with those same titles, in broad strokes, being of the same genre as GT and any other hardcore sim.
 
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Just on the Forza thing, yeah agree, but remember Forza has PC available too so it's really hard to compare, XB SXs aren't in as high demand basically because of this, so there's no reason for Microsoft to bother with the... Xbox 1X looks it up Ok couldn't find anything.
Now you've hitched yourself to a system that actively reduces how much you can actually make a game next gen, and considering how long Polyphony takes to develop games, the first true 'next gen' GT game on PS5 might very likely be 75% of the way through the generation.
So there is some hope for this point I believe, maybe just a little, I have nothing concrete but here's my thinking looking back at the main games.

GT3 launched on PS2 and 3 years later GT4 also launched. I'm very light on both games, but I did go back and buy them and play them and to me, GT3's engine, felt like a really polished well done GT2. It might not have been but it felt like that. GT4 was a whole new game.

GT4 to GT5 took an age and that's what everyone remembers 'OMG another Gran Turismo is releasing?' I remember being in disbelief when it finally happened. GT5 and GT6, essentially the same engine (imo, and I have played both extensively).

So if GTS and GT7 is both, kinda like the 5-6 year gap of GT3 to GT4, but also like the GT3 to GT2 change(a well done version of previous generation engine), if we're lucky, GT8 could be the whole brand new game for the PS5, exclusive to PS5 and using it to the max. Just to get return it will probably only be in 2025, late 2024 if we're very very lucky, but hey, at that point people will likely be able to casually walk over to any store and just buy any PS5 like it's nothing, so at least there's that?