Beater or Sleeper? COTW Forza 7 Week:END The Ultimate Sleeper, The Holden Sandman! Thanks Everyone!!
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So the times for the Rip Rod.
@Vic Reign93 1:07.452
@Im_Lukas 1:07.539
@Obelisk 1:09.685
And for the 917/30 Can-Am Spyder.
@Im_Lukas 1:37.216
@Vic Reign93 1:37.581
So me and Lukas trade wins by small margins and the Great Prism breaks in his new upgrades for this week.
So it’s been awhile since we had an Aussie being hooned around the many tracks of Forza, this week we’ve got a right ripper mate.
It is...
The 2009 Holden HSV W427!!
Ah the car with many different personality’s, one’s British(Vauxhall VXR8), one’s American(Pontiac G8 GXP), but the original is pure Aussie.
This one in particular was the more exclusive model, originally there was gonna be 427 cars made, but due to the economy taking a dive in 2008 and the cars price of 155,000$AUS production was capped at only 200 cars.
Like most of the hotter Commodores, it had a Chevy LS V8, but the W427 had the 7.0 litre(427CI) taken from the C6 Z06 Corvette with a dry oil sump added, the engine was good for 503hp and 472ft-lbs of torque, Basically its a 4 door Corvette.
With updated tyres, brakes and Suspension, the power is sent to the rear via a 6 speed manual gearbox, it’s a bit on the bulky side at 4,122lbs and 53% of that is over the front axle.
No surprises for where you’ll be driving the W427 at this week, Yep its Bathurst.
But that’s not all, we did get a few good cars for free last week after all.
And let’s just say this one’s the definition of ‘Absolute power corrupting absolutely.’
It is..
The 1969 Hot Wheels Twin Mill!!!
For when one is just not enough.
The original car designed by Hot Wheels way back in 1969 as a toy, it was brought to life in 2001 at the SEMA car show.
Packing not one, but TWO 8.2 litre Supercharged Chevy Big Block V8’s giving you a total of 16.5(16453cc’s) litres, 1400hp and 1400ft’lbs of torque and absolutely no visibility in cockpit cam.
All that power requires a lot of renforcing to the frame, a 6 speed automatic that can handle the power and tyres that’ll try to tame that power, but all that(plus the fact is got two engines.) means it’s weighing in at over 2.1tons or just under 4,696lbs.
So you need somewhere where you can really open the taps on those engines, no better place than Daytona, specifically the Short Circuit layout.
Will it be twice the fun or twice the headaches? Only one way to find out.
Best of luck people.
@Vic Reign93 1:07.452
@Im_Lukas 1:07.539
@Obelisk 1:09.685
And for the 917/30 Can-Am Spyder.
@Im_Lukas 1:37.216
@Vic Reign93 1:37.581
So me and Lukas trade wins by small margins and the Great Prism breaks in his new upgrades for this week.
So it’s been awhile since we had an Aussie being hooned around the many tracks of Forza, this week we’ve got a right ripper mate.
It is...
The 2009 Holden HSV W427!!
Ah the car with many different personality’s, one’s British(Vauxhall VXR8), one’s American(Pontiac G8 GXP), but the original is pure Aussie.
This one in particular was the more exclusive model, originally there was gonna be 427 cars made, but due to the economy taking a dive in 2008 and the cars price of 155,000$AUS production was capped at only 200 cars.
Like most of the hotter Commodores, it had a Chevy LS V8, but the W427 had the 7.0 litre(427CI) taken from the C6 Z06 Corvette with a dry oil sump added, the engine was good for 503hp and 472ft-lbs of torque, Basically its a 4 door Corvette.
With updated tyres, brakes and Suspension, the power is sent to the rear via a 6 speed manual gearbox, it’s a bit on the bulky side at 4,122lbs and 53% of that is over the front axle.
No surprises for where you’ll be driving the W427 at this week, Yep its Bathurst.
But that’s not all, we did get a few good cars for free last week after all.
And let’s just say this one’s the definition of ‘Absolute power corrupting absolutely.’
It is..
The 1969 Hot Wheels Twin Mill!!!
For when one is just not enough.
The original car designed by Hot Wheels way back in 1969 as a toy, it was brought to life in 2001 at the SEMA car show.
Packing not one, but TWO 8.2 litre Supercharged Chevy Big Block V8’s giving you a total of 16.5(16453cc’s) litres, 1400hp and 1400ft’lbs of torque and absolutely no visibility in cockpit cam.
All that power requires a lot of renforcing to the frame, a 6 speed automatic that can handle the power and tyres that’ll try to tame that power, but all that(plus the fact is got two engines.) means it’s weighing in at over 2.1tons or just under 4,696lbs.
So you need somewhere where you can really open the taps on those engines, no better place than Daytona, specifically the Short Circuit layout.
Will it be twice the fun or twice the headaches? Only one way to find out.
Best of luck people.
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Hey, so I went to Bathurst to test the Holden. It was an hour of pain, excitement and disappointment as I watched fast lap after fast lap fall to the high speed right at the bottom of the back straight. Seriously, you can't take that corner flat out in this thing! That said, let's actually talk about the W427 and how it fared.
It fared surprisingly well! It's a great piece of kit. It's got a big freaking V8 crammed under the hood, four doors and rear wheel drive, which should be a recipe for disaster on paper at anything past cruising speeds, but no. Not this Holden. It's a beefy machine that took what I threw at it surprisingly well and didn't throw as much of a fuss as I was expecting it to on the top half of Bathurst.
All in, I nearly cracked the 2:30 barrier in a stock Holden, chasing an A600-tuned something or other ghost driven by my fast friend. That's just about two seconds over an entire lap on a 50+ PI difference!
I rate this car a Sleeper.
As for the Twin Mill: You chose a track way too small for the thing to actually offer any useful speed, to be honest. Couldn't take it around without babying it around all of the 1st and 2nd gear turns.
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I love the Twin Mill, and the speeds it can manage are insane, but you have more hope turning a cruise ship around some of these corners, if I had a good run around the oval turn (which isn't flat out in this) I would have to brake before the finish line to make turn 1. I still love the car for the idea and how challenging it is to push it without traction control, but much like the Rip Rod took a blow for the CVT, this will have to take a hit for the handling, only with this I can happily drive it without going insane. I'll give a neutral.
Next up the Holden, it's fantastic and does exactly what I want it to, while being exciting to hotlap on this track (although most cars are exciting here). It's fast, has reasonable gear ratios, isn't a CVT, handles predictably and brakes fairly well. It's certainly a sleeper in my mind.
Only negatives are I need another tenth to overwrite my stock Nissan R380 time here, and the lap felt good but watching my recording back I messed up quite a few corners. May still revisit this to catch that pesky R380 and clean up the lap a bit.
Sorry about the Horizon Pulse hotlapping music
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Thanks, I think Bathurst is probably the one track in this game where time between drivers is exaggerated most, almost every corner requires commitment, and the whole mountain section can be ruined by one bad turn if it knocks you off the rhythm. A couple of seconds will be down to me using manual/clutch and I can't tell if that's automatic, manual, or some clean shifts with clutch you're doing whereas I'm using the kind of cheap rev-banging technique.
From what I've seen in hoppers at Bathurst you're far from bad, it's just a track where small things really add up.
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Well @Im_Lukas just incase you need an extra incentive to go after your R380’s time.
Just a btw, I did have a sub 2:23 time yesterday but was unfortunately dirty, I put in about an hours worth of straight hot lapping over the 2 sessions to get this time.
The car and the track were a tricky combo, but I can’t blame the car as I was really leaning on it, more than it could handle probably just to get the fast times down.
While stopping it from around 160+ mph going into The Chase wasn’t easy on the brakes given the weight, it just about could do the job as long as you didn’t lock them up.
Engine was good, gearbox was good, handling was here or there, likey exaggerated by the Mountains varying turns, elevation and camber, but was ok when it co-operated.
All in all, It’s a Sleeper, but could lose a couple pounds to make it that much sweeter, but i’m not complaining that much.
Verdict: Sleeper 👍
And the Twin Mill..
The epitome of the term, ‘Dumb Muscle’.
Before I continue, small correction, The FH3 had the 6 speed gearbox, this one has a 4 speed gearbox.
Lukas wasn’t kidding when he said you had to brake before the start line just to make turn 1 or that the banked turn can’t be taken flat.
An issue I ran into was I was cooking the inside rear wheel under braking into turn one which meant I couldn’t put the power down without the rear getting sketchy with one tyre cooked and one tyre not.
Handling was as you expect, slow and heavy.
As for putting power down, I’ll break out a quote from the man who drove the fearsome Porsche 917/30 to properly explain it, Mark Donohue.
“If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower.”
It’s VERY possible in this car, but in fairness this doesn’t have slicks, but you can smoke the tyres up to 150mph in some cases.
In stock form, it’s better off at the drag strip, But it’ll take a good set of hands to build it into a decent S Class power build, sticky tyres, less weight, downforce and maybe AWD swap.
For having fun in, it’s perfect, not so for racing.
Verdict: Neutral(barely)
One last thing..
Me and @Obelisk after spending some time working out how to do it, will be bringing COTW back to Horizion next week on FH4.
It’ll be reliant on the Route Creator due to the normal routes not having class leaderboards like on FH3 on Rivals and they’ll be a certain way tracks have to be made for it to work, but it’ll be explained more when we start next week at the usual time.
👍
Just a btw, I did have a sub 2:23 time yesterday but was unfortunately dirty, I put in about an hours worth of straight hot lapping over the 2 sessions to get this time.
The car and the track were a tricky combo, but I can’t blame the car as I was really leaning on it, more than it could handle probably just to get the fast times down.
While stopping it from around 160+ mph going into The Chase wasn’t easy on the brakes given the weight, it just about could do the job as long as you didn’t lock them up.
Engine was good, gearbox was good, handling was here or there, likey exaggerated by the Mountains varying turns, elevation and camber, but was ok when it co-operated.
All in all, It’s a Sleeper, but could lose a couple pounds to make it that much sweeter, but i’m not complaining that much.
Verdict: Sleeper 👍
And the Twin Mill..
The epitome of the term, ‘Dumb Muscle’.
Before I continue, small correction, The FH3 had the 6 speed gearbox, this one has a 4 speed gearbox.
Lukas wasn’t kidding when he said you had to brake before the start line just to make turn 1 or that the banked turn can’t be taken flat.
An issue I ran into was I was cooking the inside rear wheel under braking into turn one which meant I couldn’t put the power down without the rear getting sketchy with one tyre cooked and one tyre not.
Handling was as you expect, slow and heavy.
As for putting power down, I’ll break out a quote from the man who drove the fearsome Porsche 917/30 to properly explain it, Mark Donohue.
“If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower.”
It’s VERY possible in this car, but in fairness this doesn’t have slicks, but you can smoke the tyres up to 150mph in some cases.
In stock form, it’s better off at the drag strip, But it’ll take a good set of hands to build it into a decent S Class power build, sticky tyres, less weight, downforce and maybe AWD swap.
For having fun in, it’s perfect, not so for racing.
Verdict: Neutral(barely)
One last thing..
Me and @Obelisk after spending some time working out how to do it, will be bringing COTW back to Horizion next week on FH4.
It’ll be reliant on the Route Creator due to the normal routes not having class leaderboards like on FH3 on Rivals and they’ll be a certain way tracks have to be made for it to work, but it’ll be explained more when we start next week at the usual time.
👍
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Here’s your 24hr reminder to get your times up or improve on current times.
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Also 24 hr reminder that the Horizon 4 COTW thread launches tomorrow.Here’s your 24hr reminder to get your times up or improve on current times.
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Improved a bit and beat that R380, a little disappointed with the lap though, I lost 2 tenths in the first sector which is essentially just turn 1 and most of the first straight, another 2 tenths in the second sector where I had to let off the steering to avoid a wall on the inside, and then 5 tenths in the last sector where the pressure was just too much for me and I ended up messing it up.
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So the times for the double header are like this..
For the Holden.
@Im_Lukas 2:23.207
@Vic Reign93 2:23.270
@Obelisk 2:31.042
And the Twin Mill.
@Vic Reign93 1:37.506
@Im_Lukas 1:37.701
Another week, another trading of 1st places against Lukas.
Ok on to brass tacks, I’m happy to announce after much back and forth in creating a somewhat practical solution, We have officially opened our Forza Horizion 4 COTW branch.
We? Yep, Obelisk and myself will be running the show in tandem to ensure things run as smooth as can be.
We’ve already got the first event and car lined up for you guys and it’s right through here.👍
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ek-1-vauxhall-monaro-05.383432/#post-12548831
So @Jetboy. @Drex124 @FastBud @Thomas2012 ready for the smell of the British countryside with COTW?
So how do we celebrate the occasion? With another British machine of course.
And this ones packing a name to back up it’s power.
It is...
The 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan!!!
Ahh, Both Vulcans sparing with one another (Before it was replaced with the Deltawing name.) in another Horizon Showcase.
Named after the Avro Vulcan Bomber, The Aston Martin Vulcan was Aston’s take on the ultra pricey, track only powerhouse which the likes of Mclaren, Ferrari and such had already dabbled in with the P1 GTR and the FXX-K.
Powered by a 820hp 7.0 V12 engine, The Vulcan sends its power to the rear via a carbon driveshaft and a 6 speed sequential gearbox, with weight being kept to a nice 2,998lbs or just over 1,350kgs.
If the Vulcan is great, but you think it needs a little extra, The AMR Pro package offers shorter gearing for better acceleration and extra aerodynamic parts for a 27% increase to downforce performance.
So where to take such an machine, the same place where Chris Harris drove it.
The Yes Marina Circuit in Abu Dhabi, on the full layout at Night.
Best of Luck people, both here and in FH4.
For the Holden.
@Im_Lukas 2:23.207
@Vic Reign93 2:23.270
@Obelisk 2:31.042
And the Twin Mill.
@Vic Reign93 1:37.506
@Im_Lukas 1:37.701
Another week, another trading of 1st places against Lukas.
Ok on to brass tacks, I’m happy to announce after much back and forth in creating a somewhat practical solution, We have officially opened our Forza Horizion 4 COTW branch.
We? Yep, Obelisk and myself will be running the show in tandem to ensure things run as smooth as can be.
We’ve already got the first event and car lined up for you guys and it’s right through here.👍
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...ek-1-vauxhall-monaro-05.383432/#post-12548831
So @Jetboy. @Drex124 @FastBud @Thomas2012 ready for the smell of the British countryside with COTW?
So how do we celebrate the occasion? With another British machine of course.
And this ones packing a name to back up it’s power.
It is...
The 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan!!!
Ahh, Both Vulcans sparing with one another (Before it was replaced with the Deltawing name.) in another Horizon Showcase.
Named after the Avro Vulcan Bomber, The Aston Martin Vulcan was Aston’s take on the ultra pricey, track only powerhouse which the likes of Mclaren, Ferrari and such had already dabbled in with the P1 GTR and the FXX-K.
Powered by a 820hp 7.0 V12 engine, The Vulcan sends its power to the rear via a carbon driveshaft and a 6 speed sequential gearbox, with weight being kept to a nice 2,998lbs or just over 1,350kgs.
If the Vulcan is great, but you think it needs a little extra, The AMR Pro package offers shorter gearing for better acceleration and extra aerodynamic parts for a 27% increase to downforce performance.
So where to take such an machine, the same place where Chris Harris drove it.
The Yes Marina Circuit in Abu Dhabi, on the full layout at Night.
Best of Luck people, both here and in FH4.
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I could simplify this review and just say that despite the sky high price and exclusivity, it’s a well behaved, great sounding, fast and stable machine.
And I will.
Throw on a decent tune and it’s a dark horse in the Hypercar Division, classic british warplane livery is optional of course.
Verdict: Sleeper 👍
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Here is your 24hrs left reminder to get your times on the board. 👍
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And so another week is down and sadly I’m the only one with a time down so let’s just get the next one started shall we? 
When people hear the term ‘Supercar’, they imagine cars with sub 4-3 second 0-60’s, top speeds well over 186+mph and can take corners better than most footballers.
The recipe for what some consider a proper supercar is a large powerful engine, mounted in the middle behind the driver, stunning looks and sound to boot.
This weeks car ticks all those boxes, Heck some say that it was the first Supercar of its kind back in the day.
It’s loud, proud and bleeds green, white and red.
It is..
The 1967 Lamborghini Miura P400!!!
To my genuine surprise, this is actually the first Lambo we’ve covered in COTW on FM7.
The Miura was Lamborghini’s 3rd model after the 350GT and the 400GT and immediately took center stage in automotive circles as the fastest production car in the world with a top speed of 170mph.
That speed was down to a fairly streamlined body(too streamlined as it turns out as the front lifted up at high speeds.) and a powerful 3.9 litre V12 making 350hp and 272ft-lbs of torque.
Weight was kept to 2,745lbs according to in game specs and with 44% of that weight over the front axle.
The P400 was the earliest and least powerful of the Miura’s so the P400S brought an extra 20hp amongst other comfort options to the table, then there was the P400SV which took power up to 380hp with wider rear tyres and a optional limited slip differential.
But the real nutty one was the P400 Jota which was a test mule for the FIA’s Appendix J Racing regulations, through extensive modifying, it was reportedly 800lbs lighter than stock and the V12 now produced anywhere from 418-440hp at nearly 9000rpm while still being street legal.
Sadly the original Jota burned to a crisp after crashing outside the city of Brescia, but the Jota name would still be used on the Miura in the form of the P400 SV/J, all 6 of them that were built during the Miura’s production.
So where does such an Icon deserve to go? the city streets of Prague, the reverse full circuit layout to be exact.
So throw on some glasses, stick a little Matt Monro on the radio and go for a drive. 👍
Jussst keep an eye out for any bulldozers near the tunnel section.
When people hear the term ‘Supercar’, they imagine cars with sub 4-3 second 0-60’s, top speeds well over 186+mph and can take corners better than most footballers.
The recipe for what some consider a proper supercar is a large powerful engine, mounted in the middle behind the driver, stunning looks and sound to boot.
This weeks car ticks all those boxes, Heck some say that it was the first Supercar of its kind back in the day.
It’s loud, proud and bleeds green, white and red.
It is..
The 1967 Lamborghini Miura P400!!!
To my genuine surprise, this is actually the first Lambo we’ve covered in COTW on FM7.
The Miura was Lamborghini’s 3rd model after the 350GT and the 400GT and immediately took center stage in automotive circles as the fastest production car in the world with a top speed of 170mph.
That speed was down to a fairly streamlined body(too streamlined as it turns out as the front lifted up at high speeds.) and a powerful 3.9 litre V12 making 350hp and 272ft-lbs of torque.
Weight was kept to 2,745lbs according to in game specs and with 44% of that weight over the front axle.
The P400 was the earliest and least powerful of the Miura’s so the P400S brought an extra 20hp amongst other comfort options to the table, then there was the P400SV which took power up to 380hp with wider rear tyres and a optional limited slip differential.
But the real nutty one was the P400 Jota which was a test mule for the FIA’s Appendix J Racing regulations, through extensive modifying, it was reportedly 800lbs lighter than stock and the V12 now produced anywhere from 418-440hp at nearly 9000rpm while still being street legal.
Sadly the original Jota burned to a crisp after crashing outside the city of Brescia, but the Jota name would still be used on the Miura in the form of the P400 SV/J, all 6 of them that were built during the Miura’s production.
So where does such an Icon deserve to go? the city streets of Prague, the reverse full circuit layout to be exact.
So throw on some glasses, stick a little Matt Monro on the radio and go for a drive. 👍
Jussst keep an eye out for any bulldozers near the tunnel section.
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On days like these, things just make sense.
An empty track, A V12 at your back and 350 reasons to keep driving.
While it can step out when off throttle mid corner, it’s not too tricky to the point where it’s actually dangerous.
It’s a classic Italian, temperamental, intoxicating, and easy on the eyes.
Verdict: Sleeper 👍
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Looks like I've burnt myself out on Forza by playing too much for the last 2-3 months, sorry I just can't bring myself to put some times in now Battlefield V and Ride 3 are out. From what I remember a 2:18 around Prague sounds good for that car, especially now you're not able to fly through the chicane like you used to be able to.
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Here’s the 24hrs remaining reminder for everyone.
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Well this is awkward, 2 weeks in a row of no one but me setting times. 
I know interest in FM7 is waning given it’s been over a year since I started this thread and FH4 is out and has its first expansion coming out next week.
If anything, i’m chuffed it’s got this far to be honest.
But i’m at a crossroads here, keep it going just like how T10 is doing and being committed to keep improving FM7 or wrap it up just after the new year starts?
Food for thought.
This weeks pick is something for those love movie cars that were silver screen icons, but not necessarily great to drive.
This weeks pick is...
The 1977 AMC Pacer X!!!
I believe this calls for a little Bohemian Rhapsody gentlemen.:tup:
“The Flying Fishbowl” was the nickname the Pacer got due to its shape and styling which was rather radical for its time and this fish bowl was packed with the latest tech and also factored in upcoming safety regulations.
Originally the Pacer was designed to have a Rotary engine powering, but given that General Motors( who were developing Rotarys for their cars.) scrapped the plan after concerns like tooling costs, the fuel crisis of the time and upcoming stricter emission reglulations amongst other things got too much for GM.
So AMC had to reengineer the Pacer to use the Straight 6’s they had at the time and there weren’t what you call powerhouses.
The one we have is the middle ground 4.2 litre engine making 120hp and 212ft-lbs of torque.
Weight wasn’t that light either, American Motors quoted a base model Pacer at 2,990lbs, but the one we have likely has quite a few options as it weighs in at 3,425lbs, but my short amount of research into the Pacer deduced that weight gain doesn’t include the automatic gearbox as the one we have is a 4 speed manual.
So low power, big weight, you’ll want a short track to test it on, so that’s why this weeks event will be at Long Beach on the East route.
Party on Wayne, Party on Garth.
I know interest in FM7 is waning given it’s been over a year since I started this thread and FH4 is out and has its first expansion coming out next week.
If anything, i’m chuffed it’s got this far to be honest.
But i’m at a crossroads here, keep it going just like how T10 is doing and being committed to keep improving FM7 or wrap it up just after the new year starts?
Food for thought.
This weeks pick is something for those love movie cars that were silver screen icons, but not necessarily great to drive.
This weeks pick is...
The 1977 AMC Pacer X!!!
I believe this calls for a little Bohemian Rhapsody gentlemen.
:tup:“The Flying Fishbowl” was the nickname the Pacer got due to its shape and styling which was rather radical for its time and this fish bowl was packed with the latest tech and also factored in upcoming safety regulations.
Originally the Pacer was designed to have a Rotary engine powering, but given that General Motors( who were developing Rotarys for their cars.) scrapped the plan after concerns like tooling costs, the fuel crisis of the time and upcoming stricter emission reglulations amongst other things got too much for GM.
So AMC had to reengineer the Pacer to use the Straight 6’s they had at the time and there weren’t what you call powerhouses.
The one we have is the middle ground 4.2 litre engine making 120hp and 212ft-lbs of torque.
Weight wasn’t that light either, American Motors quoted a base model Pacer at 2,990lbs, but the one we have likely has quite a few options as it weighs in at 3,425lbs, but my short amount of research into the Pacer deduced that weight gain doesn’t include the automatic gearbox as the one we have is a 4 speed manual.
So low power, big weight, you’ll want a short track to test it on, so that’s why this weeks event will be at Long Beach on the East route.
Party on Wayne, Party on Garth.
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So the Pacer, not exactly a pace setter on the straights.
Not too surprising considering it was originally designed for a Rotary engine(A 2 rotor engine swap is available.), but other than that, stopped ok and wasn’t massively wallowy through the corners.
For the pace it sets, it’s not lacking braking or handling, but the second you hop up the stock engine or swap it out you’ll need to upgrade them.
All in all, a cult classic that isn’t completely terrible to drive.
Verdict: Neutral
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Here is your 24hr reminder for your times to put up for the Pacer. 👍
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Here’s the times for the Pacer.
@Vic Reign93 1:18.189
@Obelisk 1:19.011
This weeks pick is another double stack of Americano with the track being Laguna Seca.
And the car?
The 1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1!!!
Dubbed the ‘King Of The Hill’, The C4 ZR-1 was the car that took the C4 Vette just out of reach of the rising Japanese performance imports and into the record books.
And how did GM do it? By asking the Brits to help them out.
Specifically, they bought Lotus in the mid 80’s and asked them to build an engine for them and here’s what they did.
They gave it DOHC, doubled the valves per cylinder from 2 to 4 for a total of 32, was an all aluminium block and dubbed it the ‘LT-5’.
The upshot of the whole deal was more power, from the C4’s 275-300hp LT-1, to 375hp (405hp in the later models like this one.) which gave it the edge it needed along with Lotus helping develop the uprated brakes, tyres etc to accommodate the extra punch.
While it’s performace was news worthy, so was its price as you could almost buy 2 non ZR-1 Vettes for the same price the ZR-1 went for.
But what made it live up to the ‘King Of The Hill’ moniker was its top speed and durability, it’s top speed was close to 180mph and during a 24hr distance record attempt, averaged 173-175mph across the board on the records with the big one covering 4,221 miles in the 24hr distance record.
It took a concept car, the VW Nardo W12 to beat its record.
So, Laguna Seca and the King Of The Hill, sounds like good times are upon us.
Best of luck people.
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@Obelisk 1:19.011
This weeks pick is another double stack of Americano with the track being Laguna Seca.
And the car?
The 1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1!!!
Dubbed the ‘King Of The Hill’, The C4 ZR-1 was the car that took the C4 Vette just out of reach of the rising Japanese performance imports and into the record books.
And how did GM do it? By asking the Brits to help them out.
Specifically, they bought Lotus in the mid 80’s and asked them to build an engine for them and here’s what they did.
They gave it DOHC, doubled the valves per cylinder from 2 to 4 for a total of 32, was an all aluminium block and dubbed it the ‘LT-5’.
The upshot of the whole deal was more power, from the C4’s 275-300hp LT-1, to 375hp (405hp in the later models like this one.) which gave it the edge it needed along with Lotus helping develop the uprated brakes, tyres etc to accommodate the extra punch.
While it’s performace was news worthy, so was its price as you could almost buy 2 non ZR-1 Vettes for the same price the ZR-1 went for.
But what made it live up to the ‘King Of The Hill’ moniker was its top speed and durability, it’s top speed was close to 180mph and during a 24hr distance record attempt, averaged 173-175mph across the board on the records with the big one covering 4,221 miles in the 24hr distance record.
It took a concept car, the VW Nardo W12 to beat its record.
So, Laguna Seca and the King Of The Hill, sounds like good times are upon us.
Best of luck people.
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Well that was a nightmare. I honestly think I took 30 laps to get a decent clean one, the 'invalidation' system in Forza really is unbearably fussy, seems even worse after the update - I'm certain I had laps marked dirty when only 2 wheels barely left the track.
Anyways... I really like the ZR-1, as much as the game annoyed me the car itself was fun to drive. Handles nice, easy to get the back end out but just as easy to control it back into line again.
My time probably won't be near any of you guys, but if you've seen my recent thread you'll know I am currently transitioning back to control pad from wheel. I'm still driving hardcore so it's a bit fiddly... And that's my story
Verdict - sleeper.
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I kinda like this ZR-1, American muscle with British assistance.
Brakes are solid although you can lock the rears up under heavy braking going into turn 1, handling was smooth yet responsive and the Lotus tweaked LT-5 sounds a treat.
As retro muscle goes, a C4 ZR-1 is a soild choice for the Sports GT Icons Division. 👍
Verdict: Sleeper
👍Your moves @Obelisk and @FastBud
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