Cairo court sentences 4-year-old boy to life in jail for murder

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Child was listed as "wanted" for murder, disturbance of the peace and damaging state property in an indictment together with 115 other defendants sentenced to life imprisonment.

In a bizarre move, a court in western Cairo this week sentenced a four-year-old boy to life in prison on various heinous charges, including murder.

The child, Ahmed Mansour Karni, received the lengthy prison term Tuesday after being convicted in absentia of offenses that allegedly occurred two years ago, when he was a mere two-years-old.

The boy was listed as "wanted" for murder, disturbance of the peace and damaging state property in an indictment that listed 115 other defendants sentenced to life imprisonment.

According to the indictment, the exorbitant charges against the youngster include four counts of murder, eight counts of attempted murder, vandalizing property belonging to the Egyptian Health Administration in his home province of el-Fayoum (located some 70 kilometers southwest of Cairo), threatening soldiers and police officers and damaging vehicles belonging to security forces.

One defense attorney added that he had presented the child's birth certificate to the court, however "it appeared that the court did not transfer the material."

Lawyer Faisal a-Sayd charged that the presiding judge had not reviewed the case.

"The child Ahmed Mansour Karni's birth certificate was presented after state security forces added his name to the list of accused, but then the case was transferred to the military court and the child was sentenced in absentia in an ensuing court hearing," said the defense attorney.

"This proves that the judge did not read the case," he added.

Another Egyptian lawyer Mohammed Abu Hurira issued a fiery response, writing: "On the eve of injustice and madness in Egypt, a four-year-old child was sentenced to life imprisonment. He is accused of disturbance, damage to property and murder. The Egyptian scales of justice are not reversible. There is no justice in Egypt. No reason. Logic committed suicide a while ago. Egypt went crazy. Egypt is ruled by a bunch of lunatics."

The sentencing also caused a firestorm on social media networks, with users blasting the Egyptian legal system and government of corruption and injustice.

The blogger and wife of Egyptian human rights activist Nibin Melek wrote in a post that the sentencing "was a blind decision."

The court order came less than a year after a blind man in Egypt received a 15-year prison sentence for the shooting of a police officer.


Are you ****ing kidding me?? Is those in charge retarded?


Chromalusion Member
United States
He's clearly guilty. He was playing with his toys and killed many of his sister's dolls when he ran them over with one of his Hot Wheels.


I'm Slow, But I'm Wide!
There has to be more to the story than appears at face-value.

Egypt has a "for profit" prison system. My bet is that a whole list of people have been (almost randomly) named, charged and sentenced, including this boy who was 2 at the time of the alleged crimes.

Hopefully the inevitable international interest will prompt a review of the overall (probably corrupt) system. It's clear that no fair court is going to successfully prosecute a 2-year-old for criminal damage and murder.


Staff Emeritus
United States
HSV or something
He's clearly guilty. He was playing with his toys and killed many of his sister's dolls when he ran them over with one of his Hot Wheels.

No, he's not guilty. My five-year-old son is incapable of making explosion and gunfire sounds. However, the free-range dragon farm and mechanical griffin factory have not been inspected by Hans Blix.


Who is John Galt?
United States
Mile High City
Is those in charge retarded?

I believe the correct phrasing is "them's in charge is retardated". ;)

Sometimes in government paperwork gets shuffled and the wrong applicant gets approved. You can't expect them to get sentencing right every time, and it's not fair to insist that they're able to correct that - do you know how long that would take? I know exactly what this kid is in for, I spent the first 16 years of my life in US public school. That's at least as bad as prison.


The Original Party Worm
United States
Anoka, MN
This kid is a stone cold killer. I heard after the sentencing he just shrugged his shoulders and asked for some apple juice.

He is also the suspected leader of every gang in the jail he's being held at.


United States
United States
"What do you mean he was 'playing' in his 'crib'? Are these gang terms? This 'rattle' you're talking about sounds an awful lot like a shank to me."
United States
Don't worry, the foreign aid would continue to flow into this dictatorship(as with the one in Israel). Shame for the american taxpayer though.