Dealership Cars That Are A No Sale & Dealership Cars For Arcade ?

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First note that I have the NTSC-US Version and yes I have already researched many other threads:

So, I was buying certain cars in the normal dealerships (not used car sections) to build up the number of cars in Arcade mode which had started with 240. While doing the dealership purchases does anyone know why these 7 cars below are in the dealerships but can't be purchased and marked "Not For Sale" ?

Honda N360 '67
Mazda Cosmo Sport (L10B) '68
Nissan Skyline 1500 Deluxe (S50D-1) '63
Nissan Bluebird 1600 Deluxe (510) '69
Nissan Fairlady 2000 (SR311) '68
Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R (KPGC110) '73
Nissan Silvia 240RS (S100) '83

Below are the cars I purchased in the dealerships to build up my arcade cars. I have already completed the game 100% and all the prize cars (for the most part) boosted my arcade from 240 to 378. It should be noted that the Audi Streamline I won didn't make it in and the GT40 I won with "no" strips didn't make it in and there might be other prize cars that didn't get in. I want to build up my arcade and now with the below I'm up to 515 cars. I realize there are a bunch of "used" cars missing, but I'm only interested in adding dealership cars that are not already in the 378 car arcade. So, here are the dealership cars I added boosting to 515 cars and I would appreciate any GT4 gurus chiming in with any I might have missed ? Again these are "net" of any cars that were already in arcade after game completion.

EDIT ADDED... I forgot to add I only purchased the minimum 32 cars required to complete the game...

Alfa Romeo 147 2.0 Twin Spark '02
Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04

Amuse S2000 GT1 '04
Amuse Skyline GT-R Carbon-R (R34) '04

Audi S3 '02
Audi TT 1.8T Quattro '00
Audi A4 Touring Car '04
Audi Quattro '82

Blitz Skyline ER34 D1spec 2004 '04

BMW M3 CSL '03
BMW 320i Touring Car '03
BMW V12 LMR Race Car '99

Buick Special '62

Caterham Fireblade '02

Chaparral 2J '70

Chevrolet Corvette Coupe '63
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 302 '69
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 '90
Chevrolet Corvette C5R Race Car '00

Chrysler 300C '05

Citroën Xantia 3.0i V6 Exclusive '00
Citroën Xsara Rally Car '99

Daihatsu Copen Detachable Top '02

Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca '00
Dodge Viper GTS '99

Ford Focus RS '02
Ford GT '05
Ford Focus Rally Car '99

Ford AU 2000 Falcon XR8 '00 (Australia)
FPV GT '04

Gillet Vertigo Race Car '04

HKS Genki Hyper Silvia RS2 (D1GP) '04

Holden Commodore SS Series II '04

Honda Insight '99
Honda Accord Euro R '02
Honda Accord Coupe EX '03
Honda S2000 Type-V '03
Honda NSX '01
Honda NSX Type S '01
Honda Integra Type R Touring Car '02
Honda S2000 LM Race Car '01
Honda Gathers Drider Civic Race Car '98
Honda ARTA NSX (JGTC) '00
Honda Castrol Mugen NSX (JGTC) '00
Honda Loctite Mugen NSX (JGTC) '01
Honda Mobil 1 NSX (JGTC) '01
Honda Raybrig NSX (JGTC) '00
Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S '70
Honda Mugen S2000 '00 (In Mugen)

HPA Motorsports Stage II Volkswagen R32 '04

Infiniti G35 Sedan '03

Jaguar XJ220 '92

Lancia Stratos '73

Lexus SC430 '01
Lexus IS200 '98 (Not J)
Lexus GS300 '00 (Not Vertex)

Lotus Elise '00
Lotus Esprit Sport 350 '00

Mazda MX-5 Miata 1600 NR-A (NB,J) '04
Mazda6 5-door '03
Mazda RX-8 '03
Mazda RX-8 Type E (J) '03
Mazda RX-7 SPIRIT R Type A (FD) '02
Mazda 787B Race Car '91

Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02 (Not '00 And Not E55)
Mercedes-Benz SL 600 (R230) '04
Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren '03
Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5-16V Evo. II '91

Mines Lancer Evolution VI GSR '00
Mines Skyline GT-R N1 V-spec (R34) '00

Mini Cooper '02 (Not S)

Mitsubishi Eclipse GT '06
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII GSR '03
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII RS '03
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII Super Rally Car '03
Mitsubishi Mirage 1400GLX '78
Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR '73
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI Rally Car '99

Nissan Primera 20V '01
Nissan Skyline Sedan 300GT '01
Nissan 350Z Roadster (Z33) '03
Nissan 350Z (Z33) '03
Nissan Fairlady Z Version ST (Z33) Option Wheel '02
Nissan Skyline GT-R M-spec (R34) '01
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II (R34) '00
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nür (R34) '02
Nissan Skyline GT-R M-spec Nür (R34) '02
Nissan Skyline GT-R Mid. Purple III (R34) '00
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II N1 (R34) '00
Nissan C-West Razo Silvia (JGTC) '01
Nissan Calsonic Skyline GT-R (JGTC) '00
Nissan Loctite Zexel GT-R (JGTC) '00
Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R (JGTC) '01
Nissan Xanavi Nismo GT-R (JGTC) '03
Nissan Falken GT-R Race Car '04
Nissan Skyline Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62
Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car '98
Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98
Nissan Nismo Fairlady Z Z-Tune (Z33) '03 (In Nismo)
Nissan Nismo Skyline GT-R R-Tune (R34) '99 (In Nismo)

Pagani Zonda C12 '00
Pagani Zonda C12S '00
Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 '02

Panoz Esperante GTR-1 '98

Pescarolo Courage C60 Peugeot Race Car '03
Pescarolo PlayStation C60 LMP Judd Race Car '04

Peugeot 106 Rallye '03
Peugeot 206 Rally Car '99
Peugeot 905 Race Car '92

Proto Motors Spirra 4.6 V8 '04

RUF CTR2 '96

Spoon Integra Type-R (DC2) '99
Spoon S2000 '00

Spyker C8 Laviolette '02

Subaru Legacy B4 3.0R '03
Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon 3.0R '03
Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi (GD Type-II) '02
Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT '03
Subaru Legacy Touring Wagon 2.0 GT Spec B '03
Subaru Impreza Rally Car '03

Tommy Kaira ZZ-II '00

Toyota Voltz S '02
Toyota WedsSport Celica (JGTC) '03
Toyota au Cerumo Supra (JGTC) '01
Toyota Castrol Toms Supra (JGTC) '01
Toyota Denso Sard Supra (JGTC) '00
Toyota Sports 800 '65
Toyota 2000GT '67
Toyota Corolla Rally Car '98
Toyota GT-One Race Car (TS020) '99

Trial Celica SS-II (ZZT231) '03

TVR Tamora '02

Volkswagen New Beetle 2.0 '00
Volkswagen Polo GTi '01
Volkswagen Bora V6 4MOTION '01
Volkswagen Golf IV R32 '03
Volkswagen Lupo GTi Cup Car '00
 
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Some of those (if not all) appear at various times in the used car dealerships. Try to find a list/database of what used cars appear on which days.
 
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Thanks Dave, but I already know that and as my thread reads I am only interested in dealership cars for arcade, so I was just wondering why those 7 cars are even in the dealerships in the first place since they only can be purchased used. I hope the thread is not to confusing that way and that was my initial question.
 
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Thanks Dave, but I already know that and as my thread reads I am only interested in dealership cars for arcade, so I was just wondering why those 7 cars are even in the dealerships in the first place since they only can be purchased used. I hope the thread is not to confusing that way and that was my initial question.
They're not the only ones. I guess just to let players know they exist?
 
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Thanks for the replies fellas... I still can't figure out why PD selected just those 7 used cars to put into the dealership as new, but unavailable to purchase. The only thing I can think of is they're all old cars of JDM heritage that was part of the deal so to speak. 5 of them especially being that of Nissan. But then I thought why then did PD make the old Nissan Skyline Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62 available to purchase. Of course it is a Skyline right lol. Anyway, for the record here's a list of the minimum 32 cars I previously mentioned that I had to purchase to complete GT4...

Dodge Ram Sport Truck
Daihatsu Copen Active Top
Daihatsu Midget II
Honda Civic 1500 3D CX '79
Isuzu Piazza XE 1981 Used
Mazda Miata 1989 Used
Mitsubish Mirage Cyborg ZR 1997 Used
Nissan March G# '99 Compact 1999 Used
Subaru 360
Suzuki Kei (Prize Car Was The Concept For Next Race)
Lexus IS200 (J) '98 For Toyota Altezza Race
Toyoya Vitz RS 1.5 '00
Chrysler Crossfire
Saleen S7
Shelby Cobra 427
Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
Aston Martin Vanquish
Audi A3 3.2 quattro
Audi ABT TT-R Tour Car
BMW 1 Series
Lotus Motor Sport Elise
Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG '04
MG TF160
Mini Cooper S
Opel Speedster-Not Turbo
Peugeot 206-Not Rally
Renault Clio R.S. V6 Ph. 2
Renault Megane 2.0 16V
Triumph Spitfire 1500
TVR Speed 6
Volkswagen GTi Cup (J) '03
Volkswagen Beetle Cup '00

Again, I can't find a list anywhere of "Dealer Specific" cars that need to be purchased for arcade. If anyone has one or link that would be great and appreciated for sure. I saw some Pal one, but there were some various errors it, had a bunch of used cars, and it wasn't NTSC-US so I passed.
 
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Thanks Dave, but I already know that and as my thread reads I am only interested in dealership cars for arcade, so I was just wondering why those 7 cars are even in the dealerships in the first place since they only can be purchased used. I hope the thread is not to confusing that way and that was my initial question.
As @Epic B said, it's just to let people know those cars are in the game and showcase them to some degree, in a way it's not much different to how they showcase certain cars the dealership that you can only win.
 
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As @Epic B said, it's just to let people know those cars are in the game and showcase them to some degree, in a way it's not much different to how they showcase certain cars the dealership that you can only win.
Which is something every GT game did before too. The first game had the Dodge Concept car on display in the dealership, GT2 had several prize-only cars on display in the Special lots and GT3 also showed some off too. GT4 does this too but also with used cars. But not with the Formula GT, which is hidden entirely from view.