DiRT Rally 2.0 General Discussion

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That's because the late 90's were the best. Facts.
I love this meme haha
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Those cars feel accurate in that they would tend to understeer in reality.

In game (as in reality) they need to be thrown into corners aggressively with left foot braking, using the weight shift to set the car sideways, then using the power to continue the slide out of the corner.

Once this clicks with you, go back and watch old videos of the same cars, you’ll find the characteristics are quite similar to how they’re modelled in game.
Hey Frank, yeah i get that of course, it's rally, i throw most cars sideways, do Scandinavian flick, use weight transfer..

I just went back to it today, and it does feel perfect actually as you said.

I dont know, yesterday i must have been out of it, messed something up, or was bugged.

What a raw, visceral, immersive, believable feel in cockpit view.

Maybe cause i had been on wrc9 a lot in last days, there's barely any understeer in that, and 4x4 cars oversteer so easily.
You barely need throw them.

It's a great game but seems still lacking vs dr2 in weight feel, and accurate representation of different cars.
Cars all brake the same, oversteer the same almost.
I like it alot and is a lot of fun but still. Much more simcade, less hardcore sim, you easily get away with bad moves. And get lazy in your driving, easy fun in comparison.

Just the landing of jumps in dr2 has so much more feel, weight transfer etc.

How would you compare wrc10 vs 9 and dr2, does 10 get much closer?
I know it's suppose to have a little more weight transfer, longer brake distances etc.

I sure hope optimization is better in 10 and gen on base ps4, 9 still gets to maybe 15 fps in rugged, coarse gravel stages,,with the shaking in cockpit view, it gets nauseating, hurts eyes even.
Its just ok in smoother sections.

Generations is a little more again supposedly.

Edit: hay dear god lol, been a while I've been on dr2, what a thrill, satisfaction when you get on with it.
Went back to the delta to check again my difficulty with handling curves with it last day.

Was in greece, lot hairpins, this car needs even more throwing and flicking, especially slow curves you dont have as much momentum.

Then to not overdo the throttle and blip the brake often to help it along.
Im trying avoid using the handbrake as a crutch, to try handle the car, well like i usually do.
Handbrake has it's usefulness of course.

Makes me breathe hard lol, and feel tired hands, feet, head but in a good way.
Feels so believable me.
What an immersive, challenging thrill.

Each car you need learn again how to handle it.
Still a gem for me.
 
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Haha! I honestly think every era of the sport has something to offer. Group B certainly wasn't without merit, but social media users seem to have given it this ridiculous status in recent years.

Nostalgia is undoubtedly a factor in my choice, but Group A gave us so many performance car icons and an incredible era of competition, which was then followed by the introduction of the WRCar. Late 90's events where you had early WRCars and Group A mixing it up were just the best.
 
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over at GRF we are having a weekly podcast discussing all kind of GRF events in DR2.0 we usually also have some guest from our community.



we will appreciate every like and follow :-)
 
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Haha! I honestly think every era of the sport has something to offer. Group B certainly wasn't without merit, but social media users seem to have given it this ridiculous status in recent years.

Nostalgia is undoubtedly a factor in my choice, but Group A gave us so many performance car icons and an incredible era of competition, which was then followed by the introduction of the WRCar. Late 90's events where you had early WRCars and Group A mixing it up were just the best.
I agree tbh, group 4 and group A were probably my favourites to watch (and drive in rally games). I tend to lean towards anything that's more production-derived, one of the main appeals of rallying in the 90s was seeing 'normal' looking cars being chucked about by lunatics. The Sierras and M3s battling the Celicas and Legacys in the British Rally Championship in the late 80s and early 90s is on constant rotation on my TV!
Group B looked and sounded cool, but watching them on a tight hairpin is just embarrassing haha
 
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I sure hope optimization is better in 10 and gen on base ps4
I couldn’t honestly say if it’s any better on PS4 as I’m on PS5, but knowing kyloton I’d imagine it still runs rubbish on old platforms.
Even on well specced pc’s it can run that poor that there’s people I race with that have changed over to running it on PS5, so with that I’d hold fire until you upgrade.

I’d still put dr2 ahead of wrc for feeling of weight and even just the general feeling of driving a car, however wrc does feel much better on tarmac.

You do get a good feeling of the advanced aero on the wrc cars and also the ffb in wrc10 was a definite improvement over previous ones.

But ultimately every year I buy the new wrc title and after initial playing I always go away thinking that it’s just a tiny bit closer to being a great title but still always missing that magic something that is obvious in dirt rally.
 
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I couldn’t honestly say if it’s any better on PS4 as I’m on PS5, but knowing kyloton I’d imagine it still runs rubbish on old platforms.
Even on well specced pc’s it can run that poor that there’s people I race with that have changed over to running it on PS5, so with that I’d hold fire until you upgrade.

I’d still put dr2 ahead of wrc for feeling of weight and even just the general feeling of driving a car, however wrc does feel much better on tarmac.

You do get a good feeling of the advanced aero on the wrc cars and also the ffb in wrc10 was a definite improvement over previous ones.

But ultimately every year I buy the new wrc title and after initial playing I always go away thinking that it’s just a tiny bit closer to being a great title but still always missing that magic something that is obvious in dirt rally.
Well, for me even on tarmac, the driving feels way ahead in dr2 vs wrc9, because of the lack of mass inertia/momentum, gravity and suspension feel in 9, you dont feel much like you're throwing a car around in comparison.

Plus the steering feel is more believable to me, maybe i need still to adjust the ffb in wrc9 but i did tinker with it.

Much more satisfying in dr2, especially with older cars, like the integrale.

Modern cars like the current wrc2 cars do feel better than old ones on tarmac maybe in wrc.

On dirt well cars slide enough in wrc that i can feel more throwing them and feeling handling.

Depends on many things i guess, platform, hardware, ffb settings, and how you play too maybe.
It feels believable, intuitive, dependable to push to the limit, lot of feel, on wet or dry, in germany at least, haven't tested so much in a while in spain.
All cars with their own feel too.
Plus the movement feel in cockpit.
A jewel for me still, with assetto corsa.
 
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Well, for me even on tarmac, the driving feels way ahead in dr2 vs wrc9, because of the lack of mass inertia/momentum, gravity and suspension feel in 9, you dont feel much like you're throwing a car around in comparison.

Plus the steering feel is more believable to me, maybe i need still to adjust the ffb in wrc9 but i did tinker with it.

Much more satisfying in dr2, especially with older cars, like the integrale.

Modern cars like the current wrc2 cars do feel better than old ones on tarmac maybe in wrc.

On dirt well cars slide enough in wrc that i can feel more throwing them and feeling handling.

Depends on many things i guess, platform, hardware, ffb settings, and how you play too maybe.
It feels believable, intuitive, dependable to push to the limit, lot of feel, on wet or dry, in germany at least, haven't tested so much in a while in spain.
All cars with their own feel too.
Plus the movement feel in cockpit.
A jewel for me still, with assetto corsa.
I have to agree. Dirt Rally 2 just has something about it physics/feel wise.ceven if it isn't 'technically'the best rally sim, it feels like it is. The cars behave how I think they should and how I imagine they should. It has always felt better than the WRC games to me.
 
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Have to admit though, the modern cars in wrc9 are pretty damn good too. I dont use them much, but i should in these games.
Was trying on germany bumpy tarmac stage, wrc 2, wrc, and porsche rgt, they feel more weighty, and challenging.
On smooth tarmac, they are so stable its not as exciting maybe.
I also up my ffb more.
Anyhow, older cars in dr2 and newer in wrc9 are best i guess.
 
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A jewel for me still, with assetto corsa.
I debated about picking up Assetto Corsa Competizione for ages (as I had read some negative comments concerning playing the game with a controller), but I finally took the plunge and bought it. Settings needed some tweaking after I switched all the aids off, but I absolutely love it now, second only to DR2 as my favourite racing game on the PS4.

DR2 certainly isn't flawless, but I personally believe it is the best title CM have put out for a long time and the peak of the Dirt series for me. Such a shame that they lost Pikes Peak, as that would have been the icing on the cake!
 
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And absolutely shocking that in the, what 4 - 5 years ? that PD have had it they have done absolutely nothing with it, other than stealing it from DR2.
Yeah, I have struggled to see the logic in what PD have done there, other than deny gamers the opportunity to drive at a classic location.
 
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New Global Rally Fans Dirt Rally 2.0 championship starting this friday 18.00 CET. This time we have different classes (4x4, rwd and fwd) in one 4 week (each rally lasts 7 days) championship. no matter if you are on pc, xbox or playstation or what skill level you are, everybody is welcome to join! This is our main championship club with something over 1000 drivers.


At GRF we also have a tier-racing special event-club (given cars, pro, semi-pro and amateur class and no practice) and some cool side clubs running daily stages and one-shot stages (practice as much as you want but only one try in the club). We also do a podcast (nearly) every week. If you want to be part of our awesome community, join our discord


We hope to see you on the stage soon!
 

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New Global Rally Fans Dirt Rally 2.0 championship starting this friday 18.00 CET. This time we have different classes (4x4, rwd and fwd) in one 4 week (each rally lasts 7 days) championship. no matter if you are on pc, xbox or playstation or what skill level you are, everybody is welcome to join! This is our main championship club with something over 1000 drivers.


At GRF we also have a tier-racing special event-club (given cars, pro, semi-pro and amateur class and no practice) and some cool side clubs running daily stages and one-shot stages (practice as much as you want but only one try in the club). We also do a podcast (nearly) every week. If you want to be part of our awesome community, join our discord


We hope to see you on the stage soon!
Might jump in not been on dr2 since I got ps5, does it look any better. Or run any better? Getting abit much gt7 now. Time to mix it up abit
 
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New Global Rally Fans Dirt Rally 2.0 championship starting this friday 18.00 CET. This time we have different classes (4x4, rwd and fwd) in one 4 week (each rally lasts 7 days) championship. no matter if you are on pc, xbox or playstation or what skill level you are, everybody is welcome to join! This is our main championship club with something over 1000 drivers.


At GRF we also have a tier-racing special event-club (given cars, pro, semi-pro and amateur class and no practice) and some cool side clubs running daily stages and one-shot stages (practice as much as you want but only one try in the club). We also do a podcast (nearly) every week. If you want to be part of our awesome community, join our discord


We hope to see you on the stage soon!

Might jump in not been on dr2 since I got ps5, does it look any better. Or run any better? Getting abit much gt7 now. Time to mix it up abit
Finished 70th after week 1. Was about 140 in total who scored points, so seems like its reasonably active membership which is good 👍
Although a lot had 1 point only - guessing that means they DNF?

Also, what difference does "Hardcore Damage" make?
 
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Don't crash or its game over, I played on hardcore when I was on. Then gt7 came along. Joined the club, give it a whirl sunday
 
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Finished 70th after week 1. Was about 140 in total who scored points, so seems like its reasonably active membership which is good 👍
Although a lot had 1 point only - guessing that means they DNF?

Also, what difference does "Hardcore Damage" make?

hardcore damage means your car will be faster a piece of scrap metal :-) and yes, the participant number is usually quite high :-) thanks for participating :cheers:
 
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new week in the GRF daily club. one stage a day and a little podium at the end. the daily stage club starts every sunday. join our discord for our awesome bot posting results regularly so you are always up to date where you stand. thanks to shinyo and busata for making this happen.

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