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Curious on your v3 opinion. What pedals did you have before the V3’s?
I have had several different Logitec pedal sets and my latest before the V3 set is a set of Fanatec Elite pedals with the load cell brake.Curious on your v3 opinion. What pedals did you have before the V3’s?
In mass production and in particular where electronics are involved there will be a certain percentage of failures it is just the nature of the beast..
That's why quality control is paramount - when you buy 6 different products, and 5 fail (and @AngryGinger81 isn't alone in reporting on these issues) it points to severe problems with quality control at Fanatec's Chinese factories. Another example is the tolerance issues with the DD1/2 quick release, causing steering wheel flex for the unlucky customers who lost the tolerance lottery on a 1300+ Euro wheelbase! Compounded with the overly long repair turn-around time (people have been left waiting for several months,) I'll take my business elsewhere.
The point is you can find faults in about any product if that is your intended goal.
a defective product will get talked about by the purchasing consumer with reviews or on social media at a much higher rate than the purchasing consumer that has absolutely no issues
First off as I look back through this thread at your post I see when you refer to Fanatec and their issues you seem to be always referring to something another poster has written or something you have read on one forum or another.That's not my goal at all - I want equipment that works reliably as advertised. From reading online (including on their own forum) I'm just not of the opinion that Fanatec is producing the high quality equipment they (and some of their very vocal fans) claim they do - some of their products certainly look good, but looks isn't everything, after all - I prefer reliability over good looks.
I expect Logitec and Thrustmaster have outsold Fanatec, Sim cube, Accuforce and all other simbased wheel manufactures combined by far.That's true of Logitech and Thrustmaster as well. Bar the the Thrustmaster T300 (which most likely outsold every Fanatec wheel base by orders of magnitude,) I haven't read about as many issues with any of their products as with Fanatec's
Do you actually own any Fanatec products [...] or are you just parroting what you have read one place or another?
Thankfully humans are able to form opinions based on the experiences of others - you don't have to hit yourself on the head with a frying pan to figure out that it's a bad idea to do so, after all.The Cambridge DictionaryParroting: to repeat exactly what someone else says, without understanding it or thinking about its meaning:
"She doesn't have an original thought in her head - she just parrots anything that Sara says."
Also as far as failure rates a couple of years ago there were certain models of Thrustmasters that were pretty well documented on the online forums to have very high failure rates and short lifespans. Does that mean again there were not multiple thousands of those exact wheelbases that never gave their owners the first problem?
If a person does not have confidence in what a brand offers then by all means they should purchase a different brand.
I'm just not of the opinion that Fanatec is producing the high quality equipment they (and some of their very vocal fans) claim they do
No actually I do not think it is a low blow, When you constantly bash a brand as being bad or low quality and you have no actual personal experience with that brand then that is parroting and just you repeating what someone else says with you having no way to back up the claims you are making other than what you are reading online.Come on, Max - that's a low blow, don't you think?
Again there are many customers online on forums and doing you tube video reviews of Fanatec products and many doing what they consider an upgrade from othe branded products that rave about how much better and higher quality the Fanatec products are over their previous brand.And the answer is no. I've gone from being a prospective customer of Fanatecs (thanks to their very efficient PR machinery and some incredibly zealous fans who describe their stuff like it's the best thing since sliced bread) to being absolutely appalled by their apparent business practices - and it's not just something I've read "one place or another" - it's virtually all over the internet (including on Fanatec's own forum) for those who care to take a look.
The only reason I even mentioned the TM reviews online from a few years ago is just to point out there are other brands that also get bad press but yet you still see plenty of people that own that model of wheel recommend it as a solid wheel to purchase. Again I have never owned that wheel so I refrain from talking about whether it is a good product or not.Speaking of parroting - you keep repeating that same point which I've never made. Again, no, of course it doesn't mean that - but it certainly caused me (and probably many others) to avoid buying a T300.
Again I have personally had nothing but excellent dealings with Fanatec, I have pre-ordered products and they were shipped out by the promised date, I have ordered products and had them on my doorstep within a week of ordering so my experience with Fanatec as a business has also been excellent.The difference between myself and you is what I say about the company is based on my actual dealings with the company.I simply want businesses to treat their customers reasonably.