Forza Horizon 5: Car List (WIP)

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buickgnx88

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Minis added to the list today:
Mini (6)
2018 MINI John Cooper Works Countryman ALL4
2018 MINI X-Raid John Cooper Works Buggy
2013 MINI X-Raid ALL4 Racing Countryman
2012 MINI John Cooper Works GP
2009 MINI John Cooper Works
1965 MINI Cooper S
But they are already in the list?
 

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But they are already in the list?
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buickgnx88

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Weird, they were already in the list since they were in the car list here before yesterday, so I'm not sure what changed (maybe confirmation of licensing?)

Edit: nevermind, it was a video posted a little over a week ago that went through the cars in the game that showed the MINIs. I suppose PG is just confirming it on their list.
 
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Forza Ford relationship is pretty crazy.

I still want them to add the GT-40 MKIV though... even at 59 cars already.

Would love to have some GT-40 MK IV vs Porsche 917 races.
as much as i love the gt-40 mk iv it never actually competed against the 917. it only raced in 2 races in 1967. 24 hours of le mans and 12 hours of sebring. however it did raced against the 910 and 907. in the 1969 race which the 917 took part only the gt40 MKI was used.
 
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With how close we are to release, the absence of Alfa, Fiat, Abarth, etc. Is starting to worry me
There are 538 cars in the final build (from monday's stream): we know 530 and the 8 remaining cars are from the launch FD pack.

Unless there's a surprise day 1 update, I am 100% certain those cars aren't going to be in the game... yet. Maybe in the future, as it happened with Mitsubishi in FH4.

Talking about absences, Rocket Bunny might not be in the game but there is 1 car that has one RB widebody kit: the Hoonigan Escort RS1800
 
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Unless there's a surprise day 1 update, I am 100% certain those cars aren't going to be in the game...
But then, what about this guy?

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Those who've played it say it's not a kit for the regular Lamborghini Huracan. In fact, that is clearly the Huracan Evo, which still hasn't been revealed. Could it be already from the Car Pass? But if it's from the Car Pass, why is it in the base-game's start screen (right side)?

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I don't think that would show cars you cannot drive just by owning the base game. Something doesn't add up.
 
as much as i love the gt-40 mk iv it never actually competed against the 917. it only raced in 2 races in 1967. 24 hours of le mans and 12 hours of sebring. however it did raced against the 910 and 907. in the 1969 race which the 917 took part only the gt40 MKI was used.
Of course the MK IV would need some upgrades to compete with the 917 but it would still be a fun race between two Le Mans legends.

The great thing about Le Mans is that speed was only a part of the equation and reliability mattered even more than speed.

I kind of hope Forza Motorsport implements a system that can cause damage to your vehicle if you redline it too much or overheat it too much in a endurance race.
 
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Decided to make a list of missing manufacturers so far just to compare:

Non-Fictional Brands Missing in FH5 from FH4:
  1. Abarth
  2. Alfa Romeo
  3. Ascari
  4. ATS
  5. Austin
  6. Bentley (in preview build but still not on the official list)
  7. Chrysler - Australia
  8. Citroen/DS Automobiles
  9. Donkervoort
  10. Eagle
  11. Emory
  12. Fiat
  13. HDT
  14. Hillman
  15. Hudson
  16. Italdesign (Series 1 addition)
  17. Kia
  18. Lancia
  19. Mercury
  20. Noble
  21. Oldsmobile
  22. Peel
  23. RAESR (Series 1 addition)
  24. Rossion
  25. Rover
  26. Singer
  27. Spania GTA
  28. Sunbeam
  29. Talbot
  30. TAMO
  31. Terradyne
  32. Triumph
  33. W Motors
I have nothing else to say other than how sad this is. The launch car list is looking like it's a giant letdown. I really hope they will add plenty of these back because they will all be sorely missed my me and I'm sure by several others.
 
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More confirmed cars,seems we have them on the list here already though.

2011AudiRS 3 Sportback

2016BMWM4 GTS

2019DeBerti DesignToyota Tacoma TRD 'The Performance Truck'

2018FordMustang GT

2010JaguarC-X75
 
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Decided to make a list of missing manufacturers so far just to compare:

Non-Fictional Brands Missing in FH5 from FH4:
  1. Abarth
  2. Alfa Romeo
  3. Ascari
  4. ATS
  5. Austin
  6. Bentley (in preview build but still not on the official list)
  7. Chrysler - Australia
  8. Citroen/DS Automobiles
  9. Donkervoort
  10. Eagle
  11. Emory
  12. Fiat
  13. HDT
  14. Hillman
  15. Hudson
  16. Italdesign (Series 1 addition)
  17. Kia
  18. Lancia
  19. Mercury
  20. Noble
  21. Oldsmobile
  22. Peel
  23. RAESR (Series 1 addition)
  24. Rossion
  25. Rover
  26. Singer
  27. Spania GTA
  28. Sunbeam
  29. Talbot
  30. TAMO
  31. Terradyne
  32. Triumph
  33. W Motors
I have nothing else to say other than how sad this is. The launch car list is looking like it's a giant letdown. I really hope they will add plenty of these back because they will all be sorely missed my me and I'm sure by several others.
I believe DS is also part of Stellantis.....
 
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Decided to make a list of missing manufacturers so far just to compare:

Non-Fictional Brands Missing in FH5 from FH4:
  1. Abarth
  2. Alfa Romeo
  3. Ascari
  4. ATS
  5. Austin
  6. Bentley (in preview build but still not on the official list)
  7. Chrysler - Australia
  8. Citroen/DS Automobiles
  9. Donkervoort
  10. Eagle
  11. Emory
  12. Fiat
  13. HDT
  14. Hillman
  15. Hudson
  16. Italdesign (Series 1 addition)
  17. Kia
  18. Lancia
  19. Mercury
  20. Noble
  21. Oldsmobile
  22. Peel
  23. RAESR (Series 1 addition)
  24. Rossion
  25. Rover
  26. Singer
  27. Spania GTA
  28. Sunbeam
  29. Talbot
  30. TAMO
  31. Terradyne
  32. Triumph
  33. W Motors
I have nothing else to say other than how sad this is. The launch car list is looking like it's a giant letdown. I really hope they will add plenty of these back because they will all be sorely missed my me and I'm sure by several others.
If Terradyne Gurkha is not present in the launch car list, I will despair.
This car was truly one of my favorites, and its tougher-than-Hummer, Landrover, or Jeep design with real military specs was the best thing that ever happened to me as a lover of such cars.
And with the addition of the awesome Racing 7.2 V8 engine in FH4, this behemoth had been transformed into a true off-road monster.

The optimistic thought in me consoled me with the thought that this car, like the Isetta and Peel, would never be deleted because it was a free-roam favorite.
But with the addition of the devil's system of playlists, they can delete more cars at launch.
And the pessimistic thought in me whispers that these unique and popular cars should be good bait to force people to playlist.

What will happen to one of my beloved cars?
I will have to spend two more weeks in fear.
 
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Decided to make a list of missing manufacturers so far just to compare:

Non-Fictional Brands Missing in FH5 from FH4:
  1. Abarth
  2. Alfa Romeo
  3. Ascari
  4. ATS
  5. Austin
  6. Bentley (in preview build but still not on the official list)
  7. Chrysler - Australia
  8. Citroen/DS Automobiles
  9. Donkervoort
  10. Eagle
  11. Emory
  12. Fiat
  13. HDT
  14. Hillman
  15. Hudson
  16. Italdesign (Series 1 addition)
  17. Kia
  18. Lancia
  19. Mercury
  20. Noble
  21. Oldsmobile
  22. Peel
  23. RAESR (Series 1 addition)
  24. Rossion
  25. Rover
  26. Singer
  27. Spania GTA
  28. Sunbeam
  29. Talbot
  30. TAMO
  31. Terradyne
  32. Triumph
  33. W Motors
I have nothing else to say other than how sad this is. The launch car list is looking like it's a giant letdown. I really hope they will add plenty of these back because they will all be sorely missed my me and I'm sure by several others.
If I’m honest Alfa Romeo is the biggest name on the missing list for me personally with honerable mentions for Citroën/DS, Lancia and Fiat/Abarth. I still miss Tesla as well to be honest. 😔 Could really do with the Model S and most certainly that Roadster. There are 5 EV’s at launch, I’m not the biggest fan of EVs but some more variety in that branch would be welcome (3 out of 5 EVs are hypercars…). I’ve been cruising around in EVs a bit in FH4 as of late and they are in fact nice to just roam around in while taking in all the environmental sound (FH5 does seem to have incredible environmental sound, just remember that 30 minute video the Forza channel released a while ago).

However I’m not as bummed as I was when VW didn’t make it into FH3 or Toyota in FH4. I was absolutely scared we were going to miss BMW but luckily the preview build revealed that BMW was in. Not that I’m a big BMW fan per se, but a big brand like that with some great retro and modern cars would be missed if left out.
 
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However I’m not as bummed as I was when VW didn’t make it into FH3 or Toyota in FH4. I was absolutely scared we were going to miss BMW but luckily the preview build revealed that BMW was in. Not that I’m a big BMW fan per se, but a big brand like that with some great retro and modern cars would be missed if left out.
I 100% agree. I have a strong feeling we'll see some of the again-missing manufacturers like Hudson and Rossion through Festival Playlist. I'm not so worried this time around with these missing brands because PG was so good about adding cars to Horizon 4. Hopefully they continue that trend even better this time around.

I don't know what to say about the missing Stellantis brands though. I'm worried, but as you said as well, not as bummed about it. I'm very glad we finally have Toyota back safe and sound. The launch car list has enough of my favorites on it to tide me over, but I'm still disappointed that so many cars (especially weirder ones) got cut again. I'm not a big fan of the drip-feeding, but I would rather that than these cars not come back
 
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Since Alfa Romeo seems to be in GT7, I wonder if this is again a PD attempt to block brands from Forza games. If so, that would be lame. I have a PS4 Pro as well, if they want to make me buy GT7 then that has to be by making GT7 a great game, not by denying car brands to other games...
 

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I wonder if this is again a PD attempt to block brands from Forza games
Again? I'm not aware of it happening even once, for any attempt to be considered an "again". Are you thinking of the situation with Toyota, which looked like an exclusivity deal but clearly wasn't?

The "Stellantis" connection is well worth bearing in mind here. Looking at the car lists, none of the Stellantis brands (Abarth, Alfa, Chrysler, Citroen, Dodge/RAM, DS, FIAT, Jeep, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Vauxhall) which appear on the FH5 car list (Citroen, Dodge, FIAT, Jeep, Maserati, Opel, Peugeot, Vauxhall) have any new vehicles at all.

As my motor industry colleagues will attest, the Stellantis merger has resulted in the PR and press fleets for the individual brands being unified - which isn't a particularly common situation; most brands have their own PR whether owned by a larger concern or not, with a corporate PR operating above that but separately for brands owned by a common entity like VW/Aud/Skoda/Seat/Porsche.

That absolutely could result in expiring contracts not being renewed (Alfa) and existing ones remaining in place unchanged until they expire (the brands in FH5).

There's no need to imagine exclusivity clauses held by other developers at this point, especially because car companies are now seemingly wise to this after the Porsche/EA issue.