Forza (Not VS GT4)

Discussion in 'Forza Motorsport 1' started by TSi_Shiftz, Jan 9, 2005.

  1. TSi_Shiftz

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    This thread was started for the people who want to know about Forza without have it compared to GT4. Also feel free to add anything about it...
    -No bashing if you want to rag on it go to the Forza thread on GT thread.
     
  2. kinigitt

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    Good, somebody put the thread in the proper forum!

    Now, if crazed fanboys want to throw mud on the topic, they'll have to venture into foreign territory. Should whittle the numbers.
     
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    couple of usefull resources for Forza Motorsport

    http://www.forzamotorsport.net [Oficcial Website]
    http://www.forzacentral.com [Community Site]

    From the Forza Motorsport demo this game is looking very promising there's a few area's I feel they need to work on..

    The Brakes They lock up far to easily.

    The Photorealism the graphics are splendid, but just not totally Photorealistc .

    I love the direction there taking with Forza Motorsport focusing on Live [Online] & the Customisation of cars, I can't wait until April till I get my hands on the full game i'll be a very happy camper....

    Beetween Gran Turismo 4 & Forza Motorsport I don't know how i'm gonna get anything done this year...

    Theres always 2006 :dopey:
     
  4. Joey D

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    The release date is Feb. according to the local Gamestop. But personally from the demo I think its a lot better then the GT series.
     
  5. RFTurismo

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    I plan on getting it. Looks really good but the turning kinda sucked.
     
  6. livemusic

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    I think the official release date is april actually.
     
  7. TSi_Shiftz

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    Where can i get my hands on a demo? I would like to play it, but I can't find a deom anywhere?
     
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    Double Post: Here is a link for some sweet screen shots of Forza...
    Screenies.....
    :tup:
     
  9. Mr.Kwik

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    I have the demo of Forza( pronounced.. Fortsa) it has had alot of thought and hours put in it. The graphics aren't up to some of the other titles out there but it seems like they have concentrated on the game play and true simulation. Take the tcs and stability management off and you will have your hands full!! It's like no other game I have played in that respect. But all in the same sentence It's just what I said, "have your hands full" with a controller! what gives? You can't actually have a true driving sim if you are using the controller! I don't care who uses one, You cannot get the full effect of a simulation with a controller, one doesent use only his or her hands to drive with and let your feet set there do they? (handicapped maybe) but for the rest of us we use our feet to brake, accelerate and use the clutch. I would love to play this game with a FF wheel but unfortunately there is not a true ff wheel that works on the box. I do like this game and can see that they gave it there upmost attention but it still falls short in my book because of no ff wheel. :tdown: :tup: Just wait for Enthusia or buy GT4 if you want a better game.
     
  10. kinigitt

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    Here's a list of "confirmed cars" from Microsoft, taken from www.totalvideogames.com

    I took the time to arrange them, but it's frustrating that the years and specifics aren't listed. Oh well, I did my best...

    BTW, this is in no way an official list, because it is subject to radical change. But it's all we've got, for now. Oh yeah, if anyone can help with the JGTC cars it would be nice. The numbers change from year to year and the ones listed are pretty vague, so I wouldn't be surprised if I got a few of them wrong.

    AB Flug

    RX-7
    S900 Supra Turbo

    AC/Shelby

    ’67 Cobra 427 SC
    ‘68Mustang GT500KR
    Series 1

    Acura

    '97 NSX
    '05 NSX
    Integra Type R
    RSX Type S
    3.2 CL Type S
    #42 Realtime Racing NSX

    AeroGear

    Integra Type R

    APR

    Celica GT-S

    Aston Martin

    V12 Vanquish
    DB9 coupe

    Audi

    #1 Champion RS6
    #1 Champion S4 competition
    #1 Infineon R8
    #4 Johansson R8
    #38 Champion R8
    #8 ABT TT-R
    S4 Bi-Turbo
    S4 4.2l V8
    TT 3.2
    RS6

    Bentley

    Continental GT
    #7 Speed 8

    BMW

    Z4 3.0i
    #15 V12 LMR
    #42 M3 GT-R
    #43 M3 GT-R

    Border

    '95 MR2 Turbo T bar

    Buick

    Regal GNX

    Cadillac

    #8 LMP 02
    CTS-V
    #16 SCCA CTS-V

    Chevrolet

    #3 IMSA Corvette C5-R
    #73 Corvette Z06
    Corvette Z06
    '05 Corvette C6
    '67 Stingray 427 L-88
    Camaro SS
    '69 Camaro Z28
    '69 Camaro SS


    Chrysler

    '98 Talon TSi Turbo
    GT Cruiser turbo
    ME Four Twelve

    Courage

    C65 LMP2

    Dodge

    SRT-4
    Viper GTS ACR
    Viper SRT10
    Viper Competition Coupe
    #22 Viper Competition Coupe
    #23 Viper Competition Coupe
    #51 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R
    #53 Team Oreca Viper GTS-R
    #1 Viper GTS-R
    Stealth R/T turbo
    '70 Challenger R/T Hemi

    Ferrari

    575M Maranello
    360 Modena F1
    360 Challenge Stradale
    '64 250 GTO
    Enzo
    F40
    F50
    512 TR
    288 GTO
    #21 330 P4
    '69 Dino 246GT
    #3 Moretti Racing F333 SP
    #12 Risi Competizione F333 SP
    #88 IMSA 550 Maranello
    355 F1 GTS
    355 challenge stradale
    612 Scaglietti

    Ford

    Focus SVT
    '66 GT40 MK II
    '70 Boss 429 Mustang
    Mustang Cobra R
    '05 Mustang GT
    '05 GT
    #10 Tiger Racing Mustang

    Guldstrand

    Guldstrand Edition Corvette

    Hennessey

    Venom 800TT

    Honda

    CRX Si-R
    Civic Si Hatch
    '99 Civic Si Coupe
    '04 Civic Type R hatch
    '00 Prelude Type SH
    Del Sol VTEC
    Accord Coupe EX
    S2000
    Integra Type R
    NSX Type R ('97)
    NSX Type R ('05)
    #8 JGTC AUTOBACS NSX
    #64 JGTC Raybrig NSX

    Hyundai

    Tiburon GT

    Infiniti

    G35 coupe

    INGS

    RX-7

    Jaguar

    XJ220
    '61 E-type S1

    Koenigsegg

    CC8S

    Lancia

    '74 Stratos HF stradale
    Delta Integrale EVO

    Lexus

    SC430
    IS300

    Lingenfelter

    427 Corvette twin turbo

    Lotus

    Elise 111s
    Federal Elise 135R
    Esprit V8
    '72 Elan Sprint
    '05 Lotus Exige

    Mazda

    2nd Gen RX-7 turbo
    3rd Gen. RX-7 turbo
    RX-7 Spirit R
    MX-5 1.8i sport
    Mazdaspeed MX-5
    Mazdaspeed Protégé
    Mazda 3 sport 2.3l
    Mazdaspeed RX-8
    RX-8

    Mclaren

    #42 Fina F1 GTR
    #41 Davidoff F1 GTR

    Mercedes-Benz

    '54 300SL gullwing Coupe
    #11 D2 CLK-GTR
    #3 CLK-DTM
    AMG C32 Coupe
    AMG CLK55
    AMG CL65
    SLR

    Mine’s

    CP9A Lancer EVO VI
    R32 Skyline GT-R
    R34 Skyline GT-R


    Mini

    Cooper S

    Mitsubishi

    Lancer EVO VI GSR
    Lancer EVO VI TME
    Lancer EVO VIII GSR
    Lancer EVO VIII RS
    Lancer EVO VIII FQ-330
    Eclipse GSX
    Eclipse GTS
    3000GT VR-4
    FTO GP version R

    Mugen

    Civic Type R
    Integra Type R
    S2000
    NSX
    #18 JGTC NSX

    Nissan

    Fairlady Z32 twin turbo
    Fairlady Z33
    350Z track
    #32 R390 GT1
    ’72 Datsun 240Z
    Fairlady Z32 twin turbo
    300ZX twin turbo version R
    Altima 3.5 SE
    Silvia S14
    Silvia S15 Spec R
    240SX SE
    Skyline GTR V-spec II R34
    Skyline GTR V-spec II Nur R34
    Skyline GTR R32
    Skyline V35
    #3 Z33 GZOX SSR Hasemi
    #12 JGTC (Yellow Hat?) Skyline GT-R


    Opel

    #5 OPC Team Pheonix Astra V8
    #6 OPC Team Pheonix Astra V8
    Speedster Turbo

    Pagani

    Zonda C12 S
    #17 IMSA Zonda GR

    Panoz

    Esperante GTL hardtop
    #10 JML LMP01 EPP


    Peugeot

    206 GTi 180

    Pontiac

    '05 GTO
    '68 GTO Judge

    Porsche

    '55 550 Spyder
    '73 Carrera RS
    959
    911 GT3 (996)
    Carrera GT
    '98 #26 911 GT1
    911 Turbo
    911 GT2 (993)
    944 turbo
    '98 #17 Rothmans 962C
    Boxster S
    #22 3R racing 911 GT3
    #23 IMSA 911 GT3-RS

    RE-Anemiya

    RX-7

    Renault

    Clio V6 RS

    SAAB

    9-3 Viggen

    Saleen

    S7
    #7 IMSA S7R
    Mustang S281

    Seat

    Cupra GT prototype

    Subaru

    WRX STi
    WRX STi Spec-C
    Impreza 22B STi
    Impreza 2.5RS coupe
    #77 JGTC Cusco Impreza

    Sparco

    Lancer EVO VIII

    Tommy Kaira

    Impreza M20b
    R34 Skyline GT-R

    Tom’s

    Z382 Soarer
    T020 MR2
    W123 MR-S


    Toyota

    '69 2000GT
    Supra Twin Turbo
    Celica GT-S
    Celica VVT-i T sport (?)
    AE86 Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex
    MK 2 MR2 turbo T-bar
    MR2 Spyder
    MR-S
    #21 GT-ONE TS020
    Camry Solara
    MK II Supra Turbo
    Altezza RS200
    Soarer 430SCV
    #36 JGTC Woodone Tom’s Supra
    #??? JGTC Yellow Hat Supra

    TVR

    Tuscan S
    Tuscan R
    Cerbera Speed 12

    Vauxhall

    VX220 Turbo

    Veilside

    Supra Fortune 03
    Supra Fortune 99


    VIS Racing

    Integra Type R
    MR2 Turbo T bar

    Volkswagen

    Golf R32
    Corrado SLC
    Beetle Turbo S
    Jetta GLX VR6

    Volvo

    #24 At-Speed S60R
    S60R

    Wings West

    Civic Type R widebody
     
  11. TSi_Shiftz

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    Also I think Forza is going to included the 95' Eagle Talon TSi (AWD Turbo). If so then :drool: I am going to throw a party.
     
  12. kinigitt

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    It's in the list. I put it under chrysler, just because.

    Edit:

    Sorry, it ain't the Gen you were looking for. It's a '98
     
  13. Viper_Maniac

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    Nice list. Cant wait.
     
  14. RFTurismo

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    Yeah me neither im not gonna compare this to GT4 im gonna get both of 'em.
     
  15. TSi_Shiftz

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    Didn't notice. Seriously I wish Diamond Stars Motors would come back, I mean why not thier what 15 Year old cars are part of one of the largest aftermarkets in the world. Also the 4G63 Turbo motor, their staple, is still one of the easiest bolt on powerhouse 4-Cylinders, therefore I believe DSM, Diamond Star Motors for the idiots, should make an attempt to resurface their company. Just a thought.
    -Nick
     
  16. kinigitt

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    Mitsubishi is content with selling fat ugly V6 powered loser-mobiles with the Eclipse badge. And as for DSM... the SRT-4 took it's crown.
     
  17. DMotion

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    looks like a very nice game :)

    But if you can't drive this game with real ForceFeedback wheel then you just can't compare it with GT4.. driving with a gamepad is just not nice :|

    so i hope for you guys, microsoft makes a xbox ForceFeedback driver to use in race games like this :)
     
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    Although it's extremely hard to confirm, it definitely seems like they have a true forcefeedback wheel in the works from Fanatec.

    People get thrown off by all the gimmicks and buzzwords, but I'm pretty sure it's forcefeedback in the real sense.
     
  19. CAMAROBOY69

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    Excellent thread!! I was really tired of the other one that was just pounding Forza. Forza is going to be an extremely fun game.
    1. It will be online
    2. Great graphics
    3. Realistic physics
    4. Car damage
    5. Very intelligent AI (even the demo)
    6. Excellent list of cars and over 250
    7. Tire marks on road
    8. Paint marks stay on guard rail and other objects when you scrape them
    9. Full car mods including body
    I can't wait for the release of FORZA MOTORSPORTS. :) :tup:
    And this is coming from a PS2 fanboy.
     
  20. kinigitt

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    the only thing that could potentially kill it is the wheel(s) available for it. I hate the MC2, so this fanatec wheel is my only hope. Playing with the controller is a pain in the ass, because the controls are not nearly as forgiving as GT is with a DS2.

    And the graphics could use a spit shine.
     
  21. CAMAROBOY69

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    SHHHHHH this isnt a "compare to GT4" thread remember. :dunce:
    FORZA ONLY. :) :tup:
     
  22. kinigitt

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    I didn't compare it to anything. I just stated that playing with a controller is a pain, which it is. It's not that X game is better, it's just that FORZA needs a good wheel, unless they overhaul the controls from the demo.
     
  23. Dave A

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    I agree with Kinigitt here, Forza is a very, very responsive game and the pad doesn't quite cut it imo, the wheel is supposed to be proper force feedback though.
     
  24. TSi_Shiftz

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    I just saw a screenie of the TSi. :crazy: It looks like SH**! What the heck the one car I wanted to run the rims off of looks like a box? I am angered! :tdown:
     
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    IF they incorporate a ff wheel I will buy but I keep saying is ENTHUSIA is going to be the racing game that blindsides the whole sim racing world!!!
     
  26. kinigitt

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    Yeah, I have a feeling that the underdog (konami) might be onto something.

    And TSi, you should wait for the game to come out, because they suck at releasing screens. The game looks much better in motion than in any of their screenshots. I just worry about the goofy looking wheels+tires.
     
  27. TSi_Shiftz

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    Tires were partly what i was talking about, they need to round them off I think.
     
  28. kinigitt

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    and shrink their profile. big time.
     
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    "The game looks much better in motion than in any of their screenshots"

    Thats the exact opposite of this other game. The wheels have been looking bad since Day 1. dont expect them to change. The wheels in PGR2 were a mixed bag. some looked fabulous were others looked rushed and very bad and carryed on to the final game..

    Just to add something about the Speedster wheel for Xbox and forza, its $149 price is waay too steep. It has far less value than this one other wheel that has a higher turning degree, a hand shifer and can be used with PC.s
     
  30. Mista Bob

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    This game is really looking great. Realistic physics, and complete car customization. Finally the game I have been waiting for!

    I will most definately be buying a XBox for this title (and other titles ofcourse).

    Only thing that I'm not very impressed with are the car models. They look accurate but they just arent up to par with other XBox racing titles. Although I might add, the tracks look amazing.


    Edit: Just tried out the "Carbuilder" feature on the Forza official site.
    :tup: If they can have that many different aero kits on all the cars, that would be quite the acomplishment.