Gran Turismo World Series 2024 Begins 17 April

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Great to see the WS events back since I have time to practice over the holidays. But I told them that I don't want Wednesday races; they never listen to me. Otherwise, eh, it's okay. I'm okay with not using Gr.4 since I kinda stink at those. I am happy to see panorama, I like that track.

Not sure about my manu pick, maybe something new for me like the audi or maybe the porsche since I haven't used that in a long time. Doesn't really matter, as a low A in GT1, I will be at the bottom of the lists and I'm okay with that.
 
I am super pumped for Nurburgring, Bathurst, and SFs at Interlagos. I'm medium excited for RBx2019 at Spa.

I'm 100% fine with no more tuning than BB/Suspension.

Mazda 3 GR4 at Fuji makes me want to throw up. How sector 3 flows into the track as a whole is like eating an entire delicious meal but saving all the vegetables for last and then eating them as fast as you can without choking.
 
Wednesdays are back? I'd gotten used to Saturdays only and I think I actually preferred it. Shorter races again too. 😕

Kind of hoping this is just so a short season can be squeezed in and then they'll go back to how it was previously. I can understand shortening the races if there's two a week, but definitely preferred the big race day feel!

Really hoping N24 has the time progression to night like the world final, that'll be awesome in VR.

Practice did.....it starts raining/overcast.....then a setting sun comes out....then it starts to get dark, I stopped at that point but I imagine it keeps going into full dark.
 
I was surprised to see all GR3 again this time. I ran Porsche for the first time last exhibition season and it was a great fit.
Guess I’m not switching manufacturers since I’m now very familiar with the 911.

Traded in the worn out 911 for a fresh one 😁

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I have no PS Plus anymore and still there are the cars from last manufacturers season in my garage. That's irritating. I hope they vanish with the new season. Any guesses?
 
Exited for my first GTWS. Glad that Wednesdays exist. I will probably be able to squeeze a race in. Saturdays will be tough.

No idea what to pick for Manus. Is there maybe a resource for comparing the brands? Or is BoP different anyways and not predictable?
 
I've been doing some testing over that past few weeks to help me decide which manufacturer to choose for the next Manufacturers Cup series. Now that it is here, I'd like to share my results in the hope that it might be useful to some of you.

This is going to be a long post with lots of tables. If you are only interested in the final results, scroll down to the final one.

Since I don't own all of the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars, the approach that I took was to run qualifying laps using rental cars at the daily races, then compare the optimal lap times of the fastest car from each manufacturer. I tested only on weeks that had Gr.3 and Gr.4 races since I'm a DR B driver and expected I'd need to drive both.

I tested on three weeks:
  1. Week #48: Monza (Gr.4), Grand Valley (Gr.3)
  2. Week #50: Brands Hatch (Gr.4), Sardegna (Gr.3)
  3. Week #51: Interlagos (Gr.4), Deep Forest (Gr.3)
To test a car, I drove at least 3 laps. For most cars I stopped at 3, but sometimes I did more to compensate for driving mistakes and felt I could hadn't yet gotten the most out of the car.

For each of the manufactures I tested, I drove all the cars from the manufacturer. The tables below only show the fastest one. In the first couple weeks of testing, I skipped a few manufactures. To fill in the gaps for the final comparison, I assigned them the median time of the cars I tested.

The times aren't that fast. I'm sure most of you can do better. I suppose I could, too, if I spent more time getting faster on the tracks and driving each car more. What I think is most relevant here is how the time differ relative to each other.

And I suppose I should also point out that these times reflect my personal driving style. If you did the same tests, you might end up with different results. So take them for what they are worth.

Alright, so without further ado, here are the times for each of the tracks, ordered from fastest to slowest...

Week #48 - Monza (Gr.4):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
MazdaMazda3 Gr.41:58.614
SubaruWRX Gr.41:58.918
JaguarF-type Gr.41:58.992
DodgeViper Gr.41:59.086
Ferrari458 Italia Gr.41:59.112
Aston MartinV8 Vantage Gr.41:59.188
RenaultMegane Gr.41:59.276
MercedesSLS AMG Gr.41:59.299
LambourghiniHuracan Gr.41:59.312
VolkswagenScirocco Gr.41:59.526
LexusRC F Gr.41:59.530
CitroenNot tested1:59.533
HondaNot tested1:59.533
HyundaiNot tested1:59.533
MitsubishiNot tested1:59.533
SuzukiNot tested1:59.533
PeugeotRCZ Gr.41:59.535
NissanSilvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car1:59.589
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.41:59.612
ToyotaGR Supra Race Car '191:59.616
PorscheCayman GT4 Clubsport '161:59.720
Ford Mustang Gr.41:59.745
GenesisG70 Gr.41:59.750
McLaren650S Gr.41:59.918
AudiTT Cup '162:00.115
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.42:00.424
BMWM4 Gr.42:01.973

Week #48 - Grand Valley (Gr.3):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
GenesisGenesis X GR31:48.898
LambourghiniHuracan GT3 '151:49.092
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II1:49.101
ToyotaGR Supra Racing Concept '181:49.149
NissanGT-R NISMO GT3 '181:49.228
MazdaRX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT1:49.264
McLaren650S GT3 '151:49.332
AudiR8 LMS '151:49.345
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.31:49.404
MercedesSLS AMG GT3 '111:49.428
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.31:49.537
CitroenNot tested1:49.567
HondaNot tested1:49.567
HyundaiNot tested1:49.567
MitsubishiNot tested1:49.567
SuzukiNot tested1:49.567
Aston MartinV12 Vantage FT3 '121:49.596
Ferrari458 Italia GT3 '131:49.623
Porsche911 RSR (991) '171:49.722
BMWM6 GT3 Sprint Model '161:49.728
SubaruBRZ GT300 '211:49.748
LexusRC F GT3 '171:49.858
DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '151:50.040
VolkswagenBeetle Gr.31:50.173
JaguarF-type Gr.31:50.261
RenaultR.S.01 GT3 '161:50.268
PeugeotRCZ Gr.31:50.371

Week #50 - Brands Hatch (Gr.4):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
CitroenGT by Citroen Gr.41:31.288
RenaultMegane Gr.41:31.325
Aston MartinV8 Vantage Gr.41:31.325
SubaruWRX Gr.41:31.415
Ferrari458 Italia Gr.41:31.467
PeugeotRCZ Gr.41:31.471
MercedesSLS AMG Gr.41:31.472
HondaNSX Gr.41:31.496
LexusRC F Gr.41:31.497
MazdaMazda3 Gr.41:31.523
ToyotaGR Supra Race Car '191:31.532
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.41:31.575
VolkswagenScirocco Gr.41:31.582
AudiTT Cup '161:31.605
DodgeViper Gr.41:31.636
JaguarF-type Gr.41:31.645
PorscheCayman GT4 Clubsport '161:31.694
Alfa Romeo155 2.5 V6 TI '931:31.731
GenesisG70 Gr.41:31.763
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.41:31.783
Ford Mustang Gr.41:31.857
NissanSilvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car1:31.887
McLaren650S Gr.41:32.209
BMWM4 Gr.41:32.596
LambourghiniHuracan Gr.41:33.086

Week #50 - Sardegna (Gr.3):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
GenesisGenesis X GR31:39.778
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.31:40.306
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II1:40.381
PeugeotRCZ Gr.31:40.511
ToyotaFT-1 VGT1:40.521
AudiR8 LMS '151:40.553
MercedesSLS AMG GT3 '111:40.555
HondaNSX Gr.31:40.556
BMWZ4 GT3 '111:40.576
Porsche911 RSR (991) '171:40.622
MazdaRX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT1:40.684
DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '151:40.762
NissanGT-R NISMO GT3 '131:40.837
VolkswagenBeetle Gr.31:40.872
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.31:40.905
RenaultR.S.01 GT3 '161:41.040
McLarenMcLaren F1 GTR - BMW '951:41.115
LambourghiniHuracan GT3 '151:41.176
SubaruBRZ GT300 '211:41.187
JaguarF-type Gr.31:41.192
CitroenGT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3)1:41.212
LexusRC F GT3 '171:41.231
Aston MartinV12 Vantage FT3 '121:41.303
Ferrari458 Italia GT3 '131:41.314
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.31:41.545

Week #51 - Interlagos:
ManufacturerModelOpt time
Aston MartinV8 Vantage Gr.41:38.476
NissanSilvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car1:38.487
MercedesSLS AMG Gr.41:38.563
HondaNSX Gr.41:38.575
CitroenGT by Citroen Gr.41:38.596
McLaren650S Gr.41:38.670
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.41:38.726
SubaruWRX Gr.41:38.734
JaguarF-type Gr.41:38.771
LambourghiniHuracan Gr.41:38.864
LexusRC F Gr.41:38.891
Ferrari458 Italia Gr.41:38.936
RenaultMegane Gr.41:38.956
GenesisG70 Gr.41:38.999
HyundaiGenesis Gr.41:39.045
PeugeotRCZ Gr.41:39.054
PorscheCayman GT4 Clubsport '161:39.062
ToyotaGR Supra Race Car '191:39.092
Ford Mustang Gr.41:39.145
AudiTT Cup '161:39.164
Alfa Romeo155 2.5 V6 TI '931:39.183
MazdaMazda3 Gr.41:39.216
VolkswagenScirocco Gr.41:39.261
SuzukiSwift Sport Gr.41:39.418
DodgeViper Gr.41:39.428
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.41:39.801
BMWM4 Gr.41:40.448

Week #51 - Deep Forest (Gr.3):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II1:27.982
McLarenMcLaren F1 GTR - BMW '951:28.038
MercedesMercedes-AMG GT3 '201:28.210
ToyotaGR Supra Racing Concept '181:28.307
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.31:28.353
BMWM6 GT3 Sprint Model '161:28.361
NissanGT-R GT500 '991:28.429
HondaNSX Gr.31:28.459
GenesisGenesis X GR31:28.486
Ferrari458 Italia GT3 '131:28.490
AudiR8 LMS Evo '191:28.525
MazdaRX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT1:28.529
DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '151:28.549
LexusRC F GT3 '171:28.560
CitroenGT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3)1:28.594
Porsche911 RSR (991) '171:28.655
LambourghiniHuracan GT3 '151:28.673
PeugeotRCZ Gr.31:28.684
RenaultR.S.01 GT3 '161:28.708
VolkswagenBeetle Gr.31:28.726
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.31:28.757
SubaruBRZ GT300 '211:28.793
Aston MartinDBR9 GT1 '101:28.904
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.31:29.024
HyundaiGenesis Gr.31:29.118
JaguarF-type Gr.31:29.281
SuzukiVGT (Gr.3)1:29.963

Final results:
ManufacturerCombined timeAverage rank
Mercedes10:07.5276.2
Genesis10:07.67411.5
Mazda10:07.83010.2
Honda10:08.1868.5
Ford 10:08.21111.8
Toyota10:08.21710.2
Nissan10:08.45712.0
Citroen10:08.68411.7
Chevrolet10:08.78313.3
Aston Martin10:08.79212.2
Subaru10:08.79513.0
Ferrari10:08.94212.5
McLaren10:09.28214.0
Audi10:09.30714.3
Porsche10:09.47517.0
Dodge10:09.50115.7
Lexus10:09.56715.0
Renault10:09.57314.2
Peugeot10:09.62614.5
Hyundai10:09.65715.0
Alfa Romeo10:09.93816.8
Volkswagen10:10.14017.7
Jaguar10:10.14217.3
Lambourghini10:10.20314.3
Suzuki10:10.87516.8
Mitsubishi10:11.04518.7
BMW10:13.68219.2

The final results are ordered by the combined time -- that is, the sum of the optimal times across all of the tracks. I also included an average rank, which is based on the ranking of each manufacturer at each track.

I hope you find this helpful.

I still haven't quite decided which I'm going to choose. I feel like Mercedes is the best all-around choice. Mazda favours Gr.4, as does Genesis in Gr.3. I'm going to think it over a bit more.
 
Definitely won’t be able to make that very first round on the 30th, but I’m looking forward to the rest.
 
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If your chosen manufacturer has multiple cars for each group, you are permitted to use another car then the one you're given at sign-up.
I know that, but generally rented cars get updated when the latest Gr.3/Gr.4 car from each manufacturer gets released. No idea if that did happen during last year's post-season exhibition or World Series Demo season though.
 
does anyone have a compelling reason i should switch from Ferrari? my compelling reason for staying with Ferrari is “engine go vroom lol”

i felt more limited by my own driving skill than the car itself, and it felt perfect for the rainy Nurburgring especially. had zero experience with (and didn’t even own) the Ferraris until the last series.

considering McLaren, Porsche, or AMG. I have the most experience with AMG but not sure how a switch from MR to FR will go. I feel like everyone who beat me last time were in AMG or McLaren, and that the Porsche drivers were generally faster but more aggressive/reckless and fell back because of it

e: the main thing I need to improve on is carrying speed out of turns while also driving a defensive line and not a time trial line
 
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I've been doing some testing over that past few weeks to help me decide which manufacturer to choose for the next Manufacturers Cup series. Now that it is here, I'd like to share my results in the hope that it might be useful to some of you.

This is going to be a long post with lots of tables. If you are only interested in the final results, scroll down to the final one.

Since I don't own all of the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars, the approach that I took was to run qualifying laps using rental cars at the daily races, then compare the optimal lap times of the fastest car from each manufacturer. I tested only on weeks that had Gr.3 and Gr.4 races since I'm a DR B driver and expected I'd need to drive both.

I tested on three weeks:
  1. Week #48: Monza (Gr.4), Grand Valley (Gr.3)
  2. Week #50: Brands Hatch (Gr.4), Sardegna (Gr.3)
  3. Week #51: Interlagos (Gr.4), Deep Forest (Gr.3)
To test a car, I drove at least 3 laps. For most cars I stopped at 3, but sometimes I did more to compensate for driving mistakes and felt I could hadn't yet gotten the most out of the car.

For each of the manufactures I tested, I drove all the cars from the manufacturer. The tables below only show the fastest one. In the first couple weeks of testing, I skipped a few manufactures. To fill in the gaps for the final comparison, I assigned them the median time of the cars I tested.

The times aren't that fast. I'm sure most of you can do better. I suppose I could, too, if I spent more time getting faster on the tracks and driving each car more. What I think is most relevant here is how the time differ relative to each other.

And I suppose I should also point out that these times reflect my personal driving style. If you did the same tests, you might end up with different results. So take them for what they are worth.

Alright, so without further ado, here are the times for each of the tracks, ordered from fastest to slowest...

Week #48 - Monza (Gr.4):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
MazdaMazda3 Gr.41:58.614
SubaruWRX Gr.41:58.918
JaguarF-type Gr.41:58.992
DodgeViper Gr.41:59.086
Ferrari458 Italia Gr.41:59.112
Aston MartinV8 Vantage Gr.41:59.188
RenaultMegane Gr.41:59.276
MercedesSLS AMG Gr.41:59.299
LambourghiniHuracan Gr.41:59.312
VolkswagenScirocco Gr.41:59.526
LexusRC F Gr.41:59.530
CitroenNot tested1:59.533
HondaNot tested1:59.533
HyundaiNot tested1:59.533
MitsubishiNot tested1:59.533
SuzukiNot tested1:59.533
PeugeotRCZ Gr.41:59.535
NissanSilvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car1:59.589
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.41:59.612
ToyotaGR Supra Race Car '191:59.616
PorscheCayman GT4 Clubsport '161:59.720
Ford Mustang Gr.41:59.745
GenesisG70 Gr.41:59.750
McLaren650S Gr.41:59.918
AudiTT Cup '162:00.115
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.42:00.424
BMWM4 Gr.42:01.973

Week #48 - Grand Valley (Gr.3):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
GenesisGenesis X GR31:48.898
LambourghiniHuracan GT3 '151:49.092
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II1:49.101
ToyotaGR Supra Racing Concept '181:49.149
NissanGT-R NISMO GT3 '181:49.228
MazdaRX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT1:49.264
McLaren650S GT3 '151:49.332
AudiR8 LMS '151:49.345
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.31:49.404
MercedesSLS AMG GT3 '111:49.428
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.31:49.537
CitroenNot tested1:49.567
HondaNot tested1:49.567
HyundaiNot tested1:49.567
MitsubishiNot tested1:49.567
SuzukiNot tested1:49.567
Aston MartinV12 Vantage FT3 '121:49.596
Ferrari458 Italia GT3 '131:49.623
Porsche911 RSR (991) '171:49.722
BMWM6 GT3 Sprint Model '161:49.728
SubaruBRZ GT300 '211:49.748
LexusRC F GT3 '171:49.858
DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '151:50.040
VolkswagenBeetle Gr.31:50.173
JaguarF-type Gr.31:50.261
RenaultR.S.01 GT3 '161:50.268
PeugeotRCZ Gr.31:50.371

Week #50 - Brands Hatch (Gr.4):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
CitroenGT by Citroen Gr.41:31.288
RenaultMegane Gr.41:31.325
Aston MartinV8 Vantage Gr.41:31.325
SubaruWRX Gr.41:31.415
Ferrari458 Italia Gr.41:31.467
PeugeotRCZ Gr.41:31.471
MercedesSLS AMG Gr.41:31.472
HondaNSX Gr.41:31.496
LexusRC F Gr.41:31.497
MazdaMazda3 Gr.41:31.523
ToyotaGR Supra Race Car '191:31.532
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.41:31.575
VolkswagenScirocco Gr.41:31.582
AudiTT Cup '161:31.605
DodgeViper Gr.41:31.636
JaguarF-type Gr.41:31.645
PorscheCayman GT4 Clubsport '161:31.694
Alfa Romeo155 2.5 V6 TI '931:31.731
GenesisG70 Gr.41:31.763
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.41:31.783
Ford Mustang Gr.41:31.857
NissanSilvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car1:31.887
McLaren650S Gr.41:32.209
BMWM4 Gr.41:32.596
LambourghiniHuracan Gr.41:33.086

Week #50 - Sardegna (Gr.3):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
GenesisGenesis X GR31:39.778
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.31:40.306
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II1:40.381
PeugeotRCZ Gr.31:40.511
ToyotaFT-1 VGT1:40.521
AudiR8 LMS '151:40.553
MercedesSLS AMG GT3 '111:40.555
HondaNSX Gr.31:40.556
BMWZ4 GT3 '111:40.576
Porsche911 RSR (991) '171:40.622
MazdaRX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT1:40.684
DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '151:40.762
NissanGT-R NISMO GT3 '131:40.837
VolkswagenBeetle Gr.31:40.872
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.31:40.905
RenaultR.S.01 GT3 '161:41.040
McLarenMcLaren F1 GTR - BMW '951:41.115
LambourghiniHuracan GT3 '151:41.176
SubaruBRZ GT300 '211:41.187
JaguarF-type Gr.31:41.192
CitroenGT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3)1:41.212
LexusRC F GT3 '171:41.231
Aston MartinV12 Vantage FT3 '121:41.303
Ferrari458 Italia GT3 '131:41.314
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.31:41.545

Week #51 - Interlagos:
ManufacturerModelOpt time
Aston MartinV8 Vantage Gr.41:38.476
NissanSilvia spec-R Aero (S15) Touring Car1:38.487
MercedesSLS AMG Gr.41:38.563
HondaNSX Gr.41:38.575
CitroenGT by Citroen Gr.41:38.596
McLaren650S Gr.41:38.670
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.41:38.726
SubaruWRX Gr.41:38.734
JaguarF-type Gr.41:38.771
LambourghiniHuracan Gr.41:38.864
LexusRC F Gr.41:38.891
Ferrari458 Italia Gr.41:38.936
RenaultMegane Gr.41:38.956
GenesisG70 Gr.41:38.999
HyundaiGenesis Gr.41:39.045
PeugeotRCZ Gr.41:39.054
PorscheCayman GT4 Clubsport '161:39.062
ToyotaGR Supra Race Car '191:39.092
Ford Mustang Gr.41:39.145
AudiTT Cup '161:39.164
Alfa Romeo155 2.5 V6 TI '931:39.183
MazdaMazda3 Gr.41:39.216
VolkswagenScirocco Gr.41:39.261
SuzukiSwift Sport Gr.41:39.418
DodgeViper Gr.41:39.428
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.41:39.801
BMWM4 Gr.41:40.448

Week #51 - Deep Forest (Gr.3):
ManufacturerModelOpt time
Ford Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II1:27.982
McLarenMcLaren F1 GTR - BMW '951:28.038
MercedesMercedes-AMG GT3 '201:28.210
ToyotaGR Supra Racing Concept '181:28.307
ChevroletCorvette C7 Gr.31:28.353
BMWM6 GT3 Sprint Model '161:28.361
NissanGT-R GT500 '991:28.429
HondaNSX Gr.31:28.459
GenesisGenesis X GR31:28.486
Ferrari458 Italia GT3 '131:28.490
AudiR8 LMS Evo '191:28.525
MazdaRX-VISION GT3 CONCEPT1:28.529
DodgeViper SRT GT3-R '151:28.549
LexusRC F GT3 '171:28.560
CitroenGT by Citroen Race Car (Gr.3)1:28.594
Porsche911 RSR (991) '171:28.655
LambourghiniHuracan GT3 '151:28.673
PeugeotRCZ Gr.31:28.684
RenaultR.S.01 GT3 '161:28.708
VolkswagenBeetle Gr.31:28.726
Alfa Romeo4C Gr.31:28.757
SubaruBRZ GT300 '211:28.793
Aston MartinDBR9 GT1 '101:28.904
MitsubishiLancer Evolution Final Gr.31:29.024
HyundaiGenesis Gr.31:29.118
JaguarF-type Gr.31:29.281
SuzukiVGT (Gr.3)1:29.963

Final results:
ManufacturerCombined timeAverage rank
Mercedes10:07.5276.2
Genesis10:07.67411.5
Mazda10:07.83010.2
Honda10:08.1868.5
Ford 10:08.21111.8
Toyota10:08.21710.2
Nissan10:08.45712.0
Citroen10:08.68411.7
Chevrolet10:08.78313.3
Aston Martin10:08.79212.2
Subaru10:08.79513.0
Ferrari10:08.94212.5
McLaren10:09.28214.0
Audi10:09.30714.3
Porsche10:09.47517.0
Dodge10:09.50115.7
Lexus10:09.56715.0
Renault10:09.57314.2
Peugeot10:09.62614.5
Hyundai10:09.65715.0
Alfa Romeo10:09.93816.8
Volkswagen10:10.14017.7
Jaguar10:10.14217.3
Lambourghini10:10.20314.3
Suzuki10:10.87516.8
Mitsubishi10:11.04518.7
BMW10:13.68219.2

The final results are ordered by the combined time -- that is, the sum of the optimal times across all of the tracks. I also included an average rank, which is based on the ranking of each manufacturer at each track.

I hope you find this helpful.

I still haven't quite decided which I'm going to choose. I feel like Mercedes is the best all-around choice. Mazda favours Gr.4, as does Genesis in Gr.3. I'm going to think it over a bit more.

Great info!!! Another thing to take into consideration is tire wear and how the car is affected. In no universe is a Ferrari and McLaren relatively equal, just taking the atrocious gr.3 458’s tire wear alone.

I was going to resign with Porsche. But might go with McLaren myself. And if you’re in GT2-3, both of the group 3 and group 4 cars are pretty good
 
I know that, but generally rented cars get updated when the latest Gr.3/Gr.4 car from each manufacturer gets released. No idea if that did happen during last year's post-season exhibition or World Series Demo season though.
I wasn't talking about rentals, I meant cars that you have in your garage, that way you don't waste credits buying tires for rentals which you would loose when the car went away.
 
does anyone have a compelling reason i should switch from Ferrari? my compelling reason for staying with Ferrari is “engine go vroom lol”

i felt more limited by my own driving skill than the car itself, and it felt perfect for the rainy Nurburgring especially. had zero experience with (and didn’t even own) the Ferraris until the last series.

considering McLaren, Porsche, or AMG. I have the most experience with AMG but not sure how a switch from MR to FR will go. I feel like everyone who beat me last time were in AMG or McLaren, and that the Porsche drivers were generally faster but more aggressive/reckless and fell back because of it

e: the main thing I need to improve on is carrying speed out of turns while also driving a defensive line and not a time trial line
i was in Porsche last season, gr3 is great but gr4 not so much. Ferrari is great at Gr4. But i'm not too knowledgeable about all this.

If I rmember well Kie25 was with McLaren and was happy with it.
 
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A couple things I noticed about the N24 race:

1) The site says 1x tire wear but in game it says 2x.

2) Site says slip is set to Custom; I didn't verify this in game. I don't like this. Going to make it too easy for people to keep up. It will also like have people sandbag around the last couple of turns in order to be behind going on to Dottenger to get the ridiculous slip sling shot effect. I really hope this isn't the case and the slip isn't like it was in the Daily A last week.
 
My testing has been purely qualitative - which car do I enjoy driving, isn't trying to murder me and isn't a complete donkey around the circuit. I'm leaning on bathurst and nurb as a proving ground. The porsche is, of course, the great all-around drive, but I am now leaning towards that AMG. It is really stable going down the mountain while the audi gets real squirrelly. Still might try a a few others before I decide. I've done Genesis twice now, so not testing it.

And... Bathurst with heavy damage? That's nightmare fuel. Hopefully I can capitalize on someone else's nightmare.
 
I guess it’s time to actually buckle down and learn Bathurst. Every time I drive it I don’t enjoy it so I’ve never stuck with it, maybe I’ll like it better after some actual practice.

Also, N24 shows only medium tires, so not wets/inters? Maybe no weather?
 
It’s just a short exhibition series, perfect chance to try something new. I’d go AMG, give the FR a go (and it has the awesome V8 rumble).
I used AMG last season(only did one event :lol:). Just wish the new GT4 was added as a choice.

Selected Lexus for the GT3, as the real car is finally racing at Le Mans. Plus, just wanted to remove the Gr.4 SLS from my garage.
 
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I guess it’s time to actually buckle down and learn Bathurst. Every time I drive it I don’t enjoy it so I’ve never stuck with it, maybe I’ll like it better after some actual practice.

Also, N24 shows only medium tires, so not wets/inters? Maybe no weather?
If you look in game, IMs and Ws are "useable tires" (which I think IMs and Ws always are). Regardless, count on rain. The GTWS had rain at the beginning and if you do some practice laps it starts quite wet. In my practice sessions, first lap is right on the boarder of IM and W on the grip meter.
 
If you look in game, IMs and Ws are "useable tires" (which I think IMs and Ws always are). Regardless, count on rain. The GTWS had rain at the beginning and if you do some practice laps it starts quite wet. In my practice sessions, first lap is right on the boarder of IM and W on the grip meter.
Ah, I guess I hadn’t looked in game, that makes sense.
 
Just did 5 laps in practice mode. First two very wet but still wet on third lap except right as the lap was finishing and then completely dry.

Switched to RM and the out lap was perfectly dry as was the final lap.
Took a full 5 laps to get a dry lap on RM which stick like glue compared to the first laps so it’s about adjusting big time to the change in grip.

Only ~22 seconds off the leaders with my dry lap 😂😂

A couple of things I thought about while doing this is all laps were primo qt fuel load and no tire wear was seen which may not matter much at 2x 🤷🏻‍♂️

Hopefully the weather can be duplicated reasonably easy in lobbies so we can get some good practice in.
I’ve always found it hard to nail weather coming in and leaving as intended when setting up.

Looks like total time was a crack under 45 minutes adding up my times. No spin outs or off track adventures in there either so these were best I could work out trying it for the first time.



Oh yeah. The new car already needs the first oil change 😂


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For Nations I wish they use other open wheels (MP4/4, RA272, RB Junior) instead of the usual X2019 or Super Formula.
Sorry, those are Race A cars only. Can't have people using iconic F1 cars in races that actually mean anything...🙄
And at least the SF cars no longer drive like 💩 like they did in GT Sport - they actually have rear brakes this time! As much of a PITA the X2019 is to drive, driving it at Spa is at least a change of scenery from SF at Spa for the billionth time...
2) Site says slip is set to Custom; I didn't verify this in game. I don't like this. Going to make it too easy for people to keep up. It will also like have people sandbag around the last couple of turns in order to be behind going on to Dottenger to get the ridiculous slip sling shot effect. I really hope this isn't the case and the slip isn't like it was in the Daily A last week.
We don't know for sure what "Custom" means though. In the SF23 Daily at Suzuka a few weeks ago, it just meant that there was no dirty air effect, so you could stay tucked up behind someone through the corners, but otherwise the slipstream felt like it was on "Real".
 
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Sorry, those are Race A cars only. Can't have people using iconic F1 cars in races that actually mean anything...🙄
And at least the SF cars no longer drive like 💩 like they did in GT Sport - they actually have rear brakes this time! As much of a PITA the X2019 is to drive, driving it at Spa is at least a change of scenery from SF at Spa for the billionth time...

We don't know for sure what "Custom" means though. In the SF23 Daily at Suzuka a few weeks ago, it just meant that there was no dirty air effect, so you could stay tucked up behind someone through the corners, but otherwise the slipstream felt like it was on "Real".
You’re right because im 95% sure that the quali for the two nations cup oval races had “custom” slipstream that was actually “no slipstream”. People speculated you could draft in quali because of it. You absolutely couldn’t.
 
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