I wouldn't put it past PD to put it into Nations, too.Eiger has already been leaked for C next week. Car is unknown but the tires are CS, which is what they're running on the RA272 during the event. So, yea...
Practice! My experience is that with practice you will get better here. I am pretty bad at this track and do not really like it. No flow, especially in sector 1. and then the new physics....but TC helps!Did a test race yesterday. And it went ... terribly.
My fastest practice lap is a 1:57, so i was hoping to do 1:59 laps (without traffic) in the race. But i had 1 lap under 2 min! Just one!
I started on RS tires, because i wanted to check how long they last. After 12 laps they where still ok. But they felt pretty slippery from the start. I spun twice at the exit of the left hander before the 'Bilstein Kurve'. Traction was always a strenght of the 911 RSR, but the new physics changed that dramaticly!
Trail braking into the 'Goodyear Kehre' let the car slide about half of the laps.
Braking in general is a problem for me. My pre update break points don't work anymore. I estimate i have to hit the breakes 3 to 5 meters earlier on the fast straights.
I was never realy fast on this track. But with the new physics, i'll be happy if i don't spin on saturday and reach the finish before the race is over.
Thanks for the motivation @MCL1974Practice! My experience is that with practice you will get better here. I am pretty bad at this track and do not really like it. No flow, especially in sector 1. and then the new physics....but TC helps!
I did a practice race daily and with every race my laptimes improved. started with let's say high 1.59's. Last race my best lap on softs was 1.56.952 and 1.58.001 on the mediums. did 8 laps mediums, 7 laps softs which seems to be the best tyre strategy for me.
Odd thing is that i still feel the car is more stable in the custom race compared to TT. And I have the same with the breaking points as you, it is almost if they somehow change on each lap!
Feeling a bit optimistic about the coming race by now so I expect it to go terrible.
Keep in mind, you're not trying to figure out "how long the RS tires will last." Rather, you're trying to find where the worn RS tires will start losing pace over pitting for RMs. What lap is that crossover point? For me, it's eight laps. In my two tests (once starting on the RS and the other starting on the RMs), both times it was eight laps on the RS for the best overall results. Some are probably much better at tire saving; and, as I/we saw at Autopolis, some cars are OP at tire saving. And, based on the update 1.49 the drop off in time is very significant... between lap eight and nine I lost a full second while on the worn RSs. YMMV.I started on RS tires, because i wanted to check how long they last. After 12 laps they where still ok. But they felt pretty slippery from the start. I spun twice at the exit of the left hander before the 'Bilstein Kurve'. Traction was always a strenght of the 911 RSR, but the new physics changed that dramaticly!
Exactly what @Talon16 said. For me, driving the Citreon, the crossover point is even sooner -- 6 or 7 laps -- mostly because I don't get much of an advantage from the softer compound in that car. As soon as lap times start dropping off, it is faster for me to use the RMs.I started on RS tires, because i wanted to check how long they last. After 12 laps they where still ok.
I tried going RS-first in a lobby race yesterday (not intentionally -- there was a reset after qualifying and I was expecting to have to qualify again, but ended up going straight to the race). I started mid-pack. I found I spent the entire stint on RSs stuck behind drivers on RMs, trying unsuccessfully to get by. For me, I'd only consider starting with RSs if I qualify in the top 3 (not bloody likely).Seems like most people will start on RM. I guess i'll take the risk and will do the opposite.
Have you guys seen tidgney's recent video (couple days ago?) He singles out the Porsche specifically for how bad it is (and seems a bit irritated!). Default setup has changed along with the physics. He could tune it to drive like before. But of course, you can't tune here.Keep in mind, you're not trying to figure out "how long the RS tires will last." Rather, you're trying to find where the worn RS tires will start losing pace over pitting for RMs. What lap is that crossover point? For me, it's eight laps. In my two tests (once starting on the RS and the other starting on the RMs), both times it was eight laps on the RS for the best overall results. Some are probably much better at tire saving; and, as I/we saw at Autopolis, some cars are OP at tire saving. And, based on the update 1.49 the drop off in time is very significant... between lap eight and nine I lost a full second while on the worn RSs. YMMV.
And, I agree with your second bit 100%. THe Porsche used to be very stable but now it's just not. Hard to put into words, but I just don't have near the confidence in the car anymore: acceleration out of tight corners; throwing it into a turn; getting some solid rotation through the turns; etc. It's unfortunate as I feel like all the aforementioned strengths of the car are how Porsches are in real life. Guess we'll have to make due for at least one more race.
Strategy | Opt time | Best time | Avg time | Avg dev | Total time |
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9RM-6RS | 1:55.549 | 1:57.735 | 2:00.084 | 0:02.472 | 30:01.256 |
8RM-7RS (2) | 1:56.357 | 1:58.143 | 2:00.292 | 0:02.506 | 30:04.383 |
7RM-8RS | 1:55.824 | 1:58.549 | 2:00.416 | 0:02.377 | 30:06.241 |
Strategy | Front left | Front right | Rear left | Rear right |
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9RM-6RS | 70% | 75% | 70% | 70% |
8RM-7RS (2) | 70% | 75% | 70% | 70% |
7RM-8RS | NA | NA | NA | NA |
Strategy | Front left | Front right | Rear left | Rear right |
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9RM-6RS | 65% | 70% | 60% | 65% |
8RM-7RS (2) | 60% | 65% | 55% | 55% |
7RM-8RS | NA | NA | NA | NA |
From your reports, I think that your best strategy is to start on the softs. Then pit whenever you feel like (times dropping off fast, traffic, or damage). If you get stuck in traffic, you will just stretch the life of your softs due to not pushing as much on right-hand corners.I'm feeling like 9RM-6RS or 8RM-7RS will be my best bets for the race, maybe even 10RM-5RS if it means I can avoid traffic.
You bring up a good point here. I have tried a lobby race with RSs first, and I lost any advantage to being on RSs when I got stuck behind a RM driver, never fast enough to get by them.From your reports, I think that your best strategy is to start on the softs. Then pit whenever you feel like (times dropping off fast, traffic, or damage).