GT5 how to make car steering more responsive

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I am wondering this because my 2 Corvettes and Ford GT doesn't like to move too much, at high speeds they barely turn, and they are so unresponsive when changing direction of turning and they don't turn as nice as other cars do.

Ford GT (with Tuned engine) is just a mess, it can be used only in Drag Races.

Any tips for tuning them so they can turn better?
 
Harden front springs a little, put front ride height up a little more than rear and soften front Anti roll bar!
 
Slashfan
...Or you could just learn to brake earlier.
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Be serious.
Ford GT is a super fast ride, it goes as fast as a Bugatti Veyron, but to take a corner I have to drive it as fast as a Fiat 500, while it should be able to steer so I can take it trough corner faster. I sure do brake earlier, because otherwise I just can't steer the car. Although I didn't say that I am flying out of corners, the car just doesn't steer.
 
Toe in/out is a nice adjustment you sould try to make a car move more when turning the wheel. Try toe in the front first.
 
yukicore
Be serious.
Ford GT is a super fast ride, it goes as fast as a Bugatti Veyron, but to take a corner I have to drive it as fast as a Fiat 500, while it should be able to steer so I can take it trough corner faster. I sure do brake earlier, because otherwise I just can't steer the car. Although I didn't say that I am flying out of corners, the car just doesn't steer.
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I think Slash was being serious. It seems your car has too much understeer. You can try what Phil suggested, go to the tuning forums, and tame the understeer by, "going slower to go faster".
 
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I think Slash was being serious. It seems your car has too much understeer. You can try what Phil suggested, go to the tuning forums, and tame the understeer by, "going slower to go faster".
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It sounds good on paper, but in action it doesn't work. Steering has to be made at least a little bit more responsive and that's what i am trying to do, thanks everyone who helped so far! Wouldn't mind more tips
 
Softening the front will help. Negative toe in the front will help turn in a lot. You need to get a feel if the front needs more grip, or if the back needs less. Might sound silly, but I find it works for me.

Too much positive toe, too soft of settings, too much wing (in the rear for all) and higher differential settings can all make the car want to go straight.
 
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I was doing a Seasonal Race 650PP Nurburgring B-Spec race, in 1st attempt i used totally balanced suspension settings finished 1st, but i got 1st only in last straight. Now i stiffened overall suspension, both extension and compression 5 but front suspension made a little softer, i got up to better positions faster and got 1st in the beginning of second lap because I had upper hand in corners and speed was phenomenal with Corvette Z06 (C6) Racing Modified.

So assume if you have much grip on tires you can make your ride stiffer, so it doesn't shake so much because of loose wobbly suspension and doesn't kick car out of control and make front softer so it leads the car by compressing, not that its same in back and front and drives like a box. But why usually default suspension settings have front stiffer than back? Can anyone tell me how really suspension works using parameters of GT5.



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Okay, i figured it out, basically what i said before. Compression and Extension works as resistors, they slow down springs so they are not wobbly, by default most cars have stiffer front so car understeers, rather than oversteers since it's made for street use, and not for hard-core turning and racing use. And basically you have to make grip of wheels and tarmac or whatever terrain you are driving work with suspension, so they work as one. And Ford GT has steering issues because it's very wide. Thanks everyone for support!
 
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I was doing a Seasonal Race 650PP Nurburgring B-Spec race, in 1st attempt i used totally balanced suspension settings finished 1st, but i got 1st only in last straight. Now i stiffened overall suspension, both extension and compression 5 but front suspension made a little softer, i got up to better positions faster and got 1st in the beginning of second lap because I had upper hand in corners and speed was phenomenal with Corvette Z06 (C6) Racing Modified.
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Hang on, are you comparing a Ford GT against a Corvette Z06 RM?
 
Take adjustable lsd and set to these: 15/20/5. Set front toe to -.10/r 0. Camber: 1.5 sports/harder tire to 2.2 for racing softs. And set rear camber to .5. Lastly set brake balance to 6f/3r. This setup creates a great off throttle turn in on entry, with stable braking. When understeer is felt a simple lift of the gas will induce predictable turn in. If the rear is getting loose mid corner or on exit, bump up rear camber as necessary. Hope this helps you out.
 
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Take adjustable lsd and set to these: 15/20/5. Set front toe to -.10/r 0. Camber: 1.5 sports/harder tire to 2.2 for racing softs. And set rear camber to .5. Lastly set brake balance to 6f/3r. This setup creates a great off throttle turn in on entry, with stable braking. When understeer is felt a simple lift of the gas will induce predictable turn in. If the rear is getting loose mid corner or on exit, bump up rear camber as necessary. Hope this helps you out.
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Toe out works with some....toe in for others. And others are best with no toe at all. It really does vary. TVR, for instance, do not respond well to toe out. It causes massive understeer.
 
Why do people complain cars can't turn, then do not post their settings? How do you expect anyone else to diagnose your symptoms without any knowledge of what you are driving your car set to? Some information would help greatly so we can at least begin to tell you what you are doing wrong.

List everything including Car and year, weight, power, suspension settings(all of them), LSD settings, weight balance(if you have any added). Remember GT has many cars that look the same but they do not all handle alike, Ford GT is one such car there are a few versions and they all handle differently. Premium is the easiest handling by far and then comes all the standard cars with the concept GT being the most squirrely handling GT of them all, very temperamental.

Just post the car and it's details and then the community can get to work on helping you out in a more detailed way instead of random tunes that may or may not work on your car.
 
If you are driving the '06 GT, Default out ALL of your settings to start with a clean slate. Leave ride hight at 0, Spring rate should be brought up depending on your tires... Factory settings are for road tires, kick up your springs by about 3.0 when you go to RS tires. Keep the front and rear springs within 0.5 of each other. Front is lower than rear (example: front 10, rear 10.5) Dampers should be 7 or 8 all the way around. Anti-roll should be at least 5, no more than 7. Keep camber and toe as they are. LSD Settings should be 10/40/25. try this and see what you get. First drive on these settings, I used Laguna seca as a test track.
 
Stiffen the rear extention damper (3 or 4 notches higher than now); it lessens the immediate rate of weight "transfer" that would land on the front springs from slowdowns, thus reducing direct heat generated from understeer, allowing better carving.

Something I experimented with the Evora recently.

(take a car you know well, and experiment with one tune setting changed by alot, to see it's effects, I'm glad I discovered the rear extention to this degree) - Nurburging, where each corner is practically from a drastic weight shifting slowdown.

Also a brake balance higher in the rear (and lesser in front) will allow for better turning too. on some cars anyway.

There is no perfect tune, and you can achieve great results probably from 25 different tunes on the same car, it all depends on your driving style, and inputs at the wheel and pedals.

Sometimes your driving inputs, and looking ahead, is the best tune of all.
 
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yukicore
I am wondering this because my 2 Corvettes and Ford GT doesn't like to move too much, at high speeds they barely turn, and they are so unresponsive when changing direction of turning and they don't turn as nice as other cars do.

Ford GT (with Tuned engine) is just a mess, it can be used only in Drag Races.

Any tips for tuning them so they can turn better?
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The Ford GT is an American car, and american cars were speficially designen to go in a straight line 👍 . But if you need help persuading your GT to go around corners then try turning up controller sensitivity in the Quick Settings menu before a race which will increase the speed at which the turning inputs for a Dualshock3 are produced. If you use a wheel however, try tuning your car setup.

Try raising the rear and lowering the front to push the centre of mass forward, increasing oversteer, or in your case reducing understeer. Also, try messing around with the Limited Slip Differential and Suspension damper settings to get your Ford GT to turn.

Good luck 👍 👍 .
 
LMAO. Google "Ford GT race" or something like that and see how many are going in a straight line. Know some history before you make a statement like that, like how the Ford GT came to be.
 
Funny one, but the vast majority of American car owners are obsessed with going fast in a straight line for some odd reason. Notice all those videos online of drag racing vette's and vipers on highways....yawn, give me some corners already and we'll see who is the better driver here.

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He still hasn't posted anything about his car, anyone has any idea which GT or corvette he is referring to? If you want help at least take some friendly advice from my first post and leave your complete car info and it's set up.

I spend a lot of time driving around with pretty much any car in GT and I just grab things and tune them to a single default setting which works for almost every car as a default starting point. Then is just drive it and see what it's quirks are, then I try to tune them out or at least make them more manageable.
 
SavageEvil
Funny one, but the vast majority of American car owners are obsessed with going fast in a straight line for some odd reason. Notice all those videos online of drag racing vette's and vipers on highways....yawn, give me some corners already and we'll see who is the better driver here.

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He still hasn't posted anything about his car, anyone has any idea which GT or corvette he is referring to? If you want help at least take some friendly advice from my first post and leave your complete car info and it's set up.

I spend a lot of time driving around with pretty much any car in GT and I just grab things and tune them to a single default setting which works for almost every car as a default starting point. Then is just drive it and see what it's quirks are, then I try to tune them out or at least make them more manageable.
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If you was referring to me, then when I said GT I meant "Ford GT" or if you was talking about creator of thread then I don't know.

R1600Turbo
... and all the videos of import cars doing the same?
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He never mentioned import cars... :indiff:
 
yukicore
It sounds good on paper, but in action it doesn't work. Steering has to be made at least a little bit more responsive and that's what i am trying to do, thanks everyone who helped so far! Wouldn't mind more tips
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Works fine for me.
 
If the OP doesn't post his setup(s) this is a colossal waste of time :indiff:
 
I found a 50/50 ballast made the car turn a bit easier for me if I can remember correctly I didnt do any tuning to the suspension lsd etc.
 

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