GTP_WRS Week 38 : Roamin' Ponies

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GT6 Week 38 : Roamin' Ponies

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Hotlap Event in Arcade Mode Time Trial

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Chevy Camaro Z28 '69 (Premium)
Dodge Challenger R/T '70 (Premium)
Shelby GT350 '65 (Premium)


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Circuito di Roma / Reverse



:: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

:: Members are not obligated to take part ::


Race Details:
  • Mode: Arcade Mode > Single Player > Time Trial
  • Track: City Courses > Circuito di Roma / Reverse
  • Car Type: Garage/Favorites Car
  • Make: USA > Chevrolet | Shelby | Dodge
  • Model: Camaro Z28 '69 | GT350 '65 | Challenger R/T '70

    Camaro
    • Power: 288 bhp (including oil change)
    • Weight: 1415 kg
    • PP: 452
    • Power Limiter: 95%
    • FC Transmission Max Speed: 186mph/300kph
    Shelby
    • Power: 320 bhp (including oil change)
    • Weight: 1270kg
    • PP: 461
    • Power Limiter: 100%
    • FC Transmission Max Speed: 193mph/310kph
    Challenger
    • Power: 360 bhp (including oil change)
    • Weight: 1724kg
    • PP: 471
    • Power Limiter: 81%
    • FC Transmission Max Speed: 143mph/230kph

    Common Transmission Settings
    • Reset transmission
    • Move Max Speed slider per car
    • Set final 3.890
    • Set gears 1 to 5
      1. 2.400
      2. 1.640
      3. 1.220
      4. 1.000
      5. 0.750
Driving Options:
  • Transmission: Auto or Manual
  • Tires: Comfort Soft
  • Driving Line | Traction Control | ASM | ABS: Optional
  • Brake Balance: Optional
  • Active Steering | Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
  • Tuning: Added Parts Not Allowed (except Fully Customizable Dog-Clutch Transmission).
  • Aero: NOT Allowed.
  • Custom Wheels and Paint ARE Allowed.
  • Improve Body Rigidity: Not Allowed
  • In-Race RA Functions: Allowed as Available
Course Settings:
  • Time: Not Variable at This Track
  • Weather: Weather not Variable at This Track
  • Grip Reduction on Track Edge: Real


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Race Specifics:
  • The event MUST be run using your registered account
  • The use of the clutch that is found on the G25, G27, and other high end racing wheels is strictly prohibited.
  • Use of the Handbrake is Prohibited.
  • No Contact with walls or other objects. Any contact with walls, no matter how minor, will result in a DQ.
  • All hard surfaces are Track


Steward's Comments:
Choose your favorite steed to take round Rome Reverse. Fetchy will accept all 3 models.

Feel free to post discussions of the up's and down-sides to each vehicle, as well as which one you're using. 👍


Viewing your T1 & T2 Time Splits:
  • You need to make sure you save the 'Save Best Lap Replay' (ghost replay), not the 'Save Replay' (See pic below)
  • To view your best lap replay, go to 'My Home' and watch the replay from there using the 'Gallery' option.
  • Live timing monitor does not work properly, so we have to use a small trick to view splits.
  • While viewing your Replay, pause the lap by hitting start, before the end of the first sector.
  • While keeping the replay paused, advance the replay, using the forward arrow on the replay HUD. This will advance the replay to the end of the first sector. That's your T1 split, write it down.
  • Advance the replay again. That will show the lap to date time on the screen, this is your first and second sector time, added together.
  • To post your T1 & T2 Splits, simply post the lap to date times that are shown in the middle of the screen. Do not try to calculate the actual T2 split time, the Fetchbot will do that for you.
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(Best Lap Replay Icon)


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Standard Clean OLR Rules:
  • At Least 2 Tires must be in contact with track at all times.

    • In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires in-line would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
    • If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
  • No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • If you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
  • No hybrids
  • No cheating of any kind,these are relaxed races and we are experienced racers, we know what times can be done,and we can read your mind.We will know.
  • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules

Thread rules:

The following information cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on IM services or via other private conversation methods):

  • Total Lap Time
  • Any information which can be used to infer your total laptime

The following information can be discussed in this thread :

  • The first 2 splits: T1 & T2 times
  • Any settings discussion

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Submission:

All submissions must be sent by PM (Subject title: GTP_WRS Week 38 Submission ) to (WRSFetchbot):

  • Then attach your 'Best Lap'/'Ghost' replay in zip file form. Everyone submits a replay instead of listing a lap time.
  • You will need to put something in the message body in order to begin a conversation. It doesn't matter what you put, it can even be 1 letter or symbol. Nobody but the Fetchbot is going to see it, so it's sort of pointless, anyhow.
  • You will get an automated response within 15min, letting you know whether your submission was accepted, or if you had an error.
  • If you have an error, don't panic. Just review the instructions for submission and submit again. If you are having trouble and cannot figure it out, please post your question in the race thread.
  • Users can ask the bot for the current submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Get Entry" and any text in the body.
  • Users can delete their submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Remove Entry" and any text in the body.
  • If you want to submit multiple times in the week that is still not a problem. Just reply to the conversation with your new time and new replay. Fetchy always uses the last submitted time as the final one.
  • See this screenshot as an example on how to submit:



  • The deadline is Monday, October 13th 11:59pm GMT
  • If you are unsure of the deadline try this site

Why Use GMT?:


GMT is World Time and the basis of every world time zone which sets the time of day and is at the centre of the time zone map. GMT sets current time or official time around the globe. Most time changes are measured by GMT. Although GMT has been replaced by atomic time (UTC) it is still widely regarded as the correct time for every international time zone.
Replay Checking:

  • Everyone is required to submit a replay for verification. This happens when you submit to the Fetchbot, and the replays will be visible in the leaderboard, once we've reached the event deadline
  • Participants will be expected to check each others' replays for cleanliness, for replays marked in the Results thread as (Check Needed)
  • Video replays are not accepted as a form of verification

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Good luck, :gtplanet:

OLR Team
 
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AspecBob

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Hmmm... Rome reverse, that's Kevin's favourite, isn't it? :P

Hopefully I will have some time for this one. The perfect circuit for these cars would have been Seattle, but Rome will have to do until we get it back...
 
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First splits with the Camaro.

27.781
53.181

What an awesome combo! :bowdown: to everyone who helped set this up.
This is going to be a fun week!
 

mcsqueegy

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27.541
53.257

With the GT350! Camaro felt better though because there's no throttle control involved :P
 
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Transmission adjusted. Used the Challenger based on:

had a look
Camaro Z28 '69

Front/rear weight distribution: 54:46
Power 288 bhp
Max torque 42 kgfm
Power to weight ratio 4.91 kg/BHP

Challenger R/T '70

Front/rear weight distribution 50:50
Power 360 bhp
Max torque 69 kgfm
Power to weight ratio 4.78 kg/BHP

GT350 '65

Front/rear weight distribution 54:46
Power 320 bhp
Max torque 48 kgfm
Power to weight ratio 3.96 kg/bhp

Plus, it's my favorite from these and similar ones.

Splits of the first lap:
30.717
59.050
 

Eggstor

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A LONG TIME. :)

I had help from @MadMax, @GTP_Patrick1, and @RacingOtaku86 in testing. :cheers:


NOTE:
Fetchy is a bit more lenient than usual due to the multi-car thing. Feel free to add me on your submissions to double-check your settings.
Question - will Fetchy catch incorrect gear ratios or will we have to watch for them in the replays?

2nd question - are all of the power limiter percentages x.0% (i.e. 95.0% for the Camaro and 81.0% for the Challenger)?
 
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Cats_PJs

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Using the Camaro. bb4/5
Tried all three, found that the Camaro is just so much more balanced.

My only concern is that my top speed slider adjusts to 186mph, not 187. I'll try to submit soon to make sure it's OK.

Edit: It worked.
 
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mcsqueegy

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My only concern is that my top speed slider adjusts to 186mph, not 187. I'll try to submit soon to make sure it's OK.

Edit: It worked.
Methinks it's a typo/miscalc in OP, since from memory 300km/h is 186.4mph so it'd round down :)

Damn good splits for us to chase! 👍
 
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I beg your pardon!
Question - will Fetchy catch incorrect gear ratios or will we have to watch for them in the replays?

2nd question - are all of the power limiter percentages x.0% (i.e. 95.0% for the Camaro and 87.0% for the Challenger)?

Where do you get 87% power setting for the Challenger? It clearly states 81%. I would think all you need to do is take the setting listed in the OP (81%) and go into the car setting screen, in the power tab, and move the slider in the power limiter adjustment to 81%. Simple as that.

My question would be under the tranny. Does the term "common" mean the settings have to be the same for all three cars thus they would have "common" transmission settings, or is it indicating that a poll or other method was used to determine what a "common" transmission setting would be and is shown only as an aid in setting the transmission?
 
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Eggstor

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Where do you get 87% power setting for the Challenger? It clearly states 81%. I would think all you need to do is take the setting listed in the OP (81%) and go into the car setting screen, in the power tab, and move the slider in the power limiter adjustment to 81%. Simple as that.

My question would be under the tranny. Does the term "common" mean the settings have to be the same for all three cars thus they would have "common" transmission settings, or is it indicating that a poll or other method was used to determine what a "common" transmission setting would be and is shown only as an aid in setting the transmission?
I needed caffeine when I wrote that. The reason I asked was I could keep the Camaro "legal" on HP and PP at 95.2%.
 

MadMax

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@ConRollins , yes. Same gears for all 3 cars. With the right top speed slider setting the gears are available - need to adjust to the common values.

@Eggstor , even thought you could get (almost) same power at 95.2% you need to set the power limiter to 95% on the Camaro.
 

Eggstor

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@ConRollins , yes. Same gears for all 3 cars. With the right top speed slider setting the gears are available - need to adjust to the common values.

@Eggstor , even thought you could get (almost) same power at 95.2% you need to set the power limiter to 95% on the Camaro.
That's what I figured. I wanted to be sure that there wasn't a 0.2% advantage to be taken. :sly:
 
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I beg your pardon!
@ConRollins , yes. Same gears for all 3 cars. With the right top speed slider setting the gears are available - need to adjust to the common values.

@Eggstor , even thought you could get (almost) same power at 95.2% you need to set the power limiter to 95% on the Camaro.

That is what I figured, but the settings are so out of the ordinary, I had to ask!
 
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The gearing for the GT350 appears to off in the OP. Max speed of 194 mph is not possible. 193 mph is.
 

Gravitron

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The gearing for the GT350 appears to off in the OP. Max speed of 194 mph is not possible. 193 mph is.
Fixed. 👍

Fetchy can see the gear ratios and will reject your replay if they are not correct. He can see the Power Limiter settings too, but since they are different for each car, I will be checking those manually after the deadline.
 
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Challenger:

27.865
53.448

Had a hard time getting the weight settled to get around the Colosseum.
 
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Z28:

27.796
53.413

Guessing most will choose this car. But the other two are more fun.
 
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Z28:

27.796
53.413

Guessing most will choose this car. But the other two are more fun.

I would guess in the early going, yes the Camaro is the easiest to get up to speed in as it handles the best. When Lucas asked me to test this to confirm what he was finding, I only needed a few laps in the Camaro, the Dodge on the other hand took me quite a few laps to figure out. Who knows with some time in the Shelby and Dodge there may be more time to be had than in the Camaro. I am glad to see that your splits for all 3 cars are very close, kudos to @Gravitron for pulling this off. This combo lends itself to some interesting races next week.
 
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The original Pony Car challenge! This is like a 60's Car and Driver comparison!
Have to say I have a strong GM bias, my dad always drove Chevrolets so my choice is an emotional one.
This must have taken ages to put together so thank you guys 👍