How to tune the tranny?

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Trying to figure out how to get the final gear ratio and top speed on this tune to work on my car. It's drift related.
It says the tops speed is 124, and the final gear ratio is 3.940.

But when I adjust the final gear to 3.940 and the speed down to 124, I can't tune the gears to go as low as the tune says for them to. So I adjust the final gear up to the max, and then I can tune the rest of the gears to what it says. But when I'm done tuning and I tune the final gear down to 3.940, the top speed goes up to 151MPH.

Need some help here I'm really confused.
 
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Simple... final gear and last gear can change the top speed.

For example, final and 6th.

That quick top speed selection also changes the top speed (being obvious)
 
Use a 5/6 speed close ratio transmission, less bog downs whilst changing gears and all the 'acceleration' virtually turns into wheelspin.

So pretty much just put all the gears slightly shorter to avoid those bogs 👍
 
5 & 6 speed short gearbox's are pretty pointless in my opinion as they are the same as an unchanged full custom gearbox.
 
LERK84
5 & 6 speed short gearbox's are pretty pointless in my opinion as they are the same as an unchanged full custom gearbox.
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Well unless you're tuning for a particular track they're very useful, I use them all the time to be honest :lol:
 
Weather people use them or not doesnt change the fact there the exact same ratio's as an unchanged full custom gearbox so the only reason I see to use them is if you cant afford the full custom gearbox which is a 5 & 6 speed short gearbox before changing anyway. With very few exceptions 2j, NASCAR, ect cars with less than 5 gears.
 
It's still drift related, and I never go in the Tuning forums so I wouldn't of seen it otherwise. Chill pills needed, he didn't post about how to grow potato's did he.
 
miko1337
Trying to figure out how to get the final gear ratio and top speed on this tune to work on my car.

It says the tops speed is 124, and the final gear ratio is 3.940.

But when I adjust the final gear to 3.940 and the speed down to 124, I can't tune the gears to go as low as the tune says for them to. So I adjust the final gear up to the max, and then I can tune the rest of the gears to what it says. But when I'm done tuning and I tune the final gear down to 3.940, the top speed goes up to 151MPH.

Need some help here I'm really confused.
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GTWelsh
It's still drift related, and I never go in the Tuning forums so I wouldn't of seen it otherwise. Chill pills needed, he didn't post about how to grow potato's did he.
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Where does it say its drift related?
 
The specific issue of being unable to get to certain ratios is tuning related. Not drifting related.

If the question was "What's an ideal method of tuning my transmission for drifting" then I'd understand thinking it's drifting related (because it is, however we already have threads on that) but as the problem mentioned is not, it doesn't really belong here.

The reason is simply the people with more experience of these issues will be in the tuning sub forum, so that's where you'll get the best results.

That's sort of the point of subforums :lol:
 
When I look at the thread title I don't see it saying "What Forum Should This Be In? Debate!" so everyone arguing that topic, I think you might be in the wrong thread/forum ;)

The top speed is more of a quick adjust that will automatically change each individual gear ratio to gear to that speed. So conversely, when you change each individual ratio, that will affect the speed too. If you're trying to follow a specific drift tune, set each ratio individually. What kind of car by the way?
 
DegenThought
When I look at the thread title I don't see it saying "What Forum Should This Be In? Debate!" so everyone arguing that topic, I think you might be in the wrong thread/forum ;)
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Oh well excuse me for attempting to help him with his problem by directing him to a more ideal place to ask it.

In future I'll be sure to say nothing and allow him to struggle for information by asking in the wrong area 👍
 
Reddee
Uri you need to grow up and just answer the question rather than pretending to be some sort of mod. You seem to have a habit of posting unrelated posts.
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When I'm tuning transmission for (drift) I only tweak the final gear ratio making my gears longer or shorter.
Oops double post I meant to edit lol.
 
Reddee
Uri you need to grow up and just answer the question rather than pretending to be some sort of mod. You seem to have a habit of posting unrelated posts.
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Not sure what you mean by this.

When I can answer a thread, I will.
When I can't, I don't post.

When it's in the wrong section, I point the person towards where they can find the information easier.

I don't know what your problem is with me but it is clearly unfounded.

Reddee
When I'm tuning transmission for (drift) I only tweak the final gear ratio making my gears longer or shorter..
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The OP was asking how to get a specific ratio that was unreachable. The solution isn't really drift related and unless I've missed something he wasn't asking for ratios. Merely how to obtain the ones he already had.
 
UrieHusky
Oh well excuse me for attempting to help him with his problem by directing him to a more ideal place to ask it.

In future I'll be sure to say nothing and allow him to struggle for information by asking in the wrong area 👍
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Hehe there's nothing wrong with making a suggestion, I was just commenting on the fact that 90% of this thread had become a debate about that and no one was helping the poor guy
 
UrieHusky
Not sure what you mean by this.

When I can answer a thread, I will.
When I can't, I don't post.

When it's in the wrong section, I point the person towards where they can find the information easier.

I don't know what your problem is with me but it is clearly unfounded.



The OP was asking how to get a specific ratio that was unreachable. The solution isn't really drift related and unless I've missed something he wasn't asking for ratios. Merely how to obtain the ones he already had.
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Im with Urie on this one. Since when has it been a crime to point someone to where they are more likely to find an answer?
 
DegenThought
Hehe there's nothing wrong with making a suggestion, I was just commenting on the fact that 90% of this thread had become a debate about that and no one was helping the poor guy
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No I totally understand, it didn't really need a big debate over it.

However I stand by what I said. If something isn't related to the subforum it's posted in you're less likely to get the answers you're after.

Experienced tuners hang out in the tuning subforum. Sure there are quite a few down here too but the tuning forum is where you're most likely to get reliable information quickly, hence my suggestion to move to the tuning forum 👍
 
No crime whatsoever!

I'm not criticizing anyone's post (I'm not criticizing anything honestly), but there seems to be a disagreement between multiple parties about where the proper location for this actually is, and that's what I find funny :D

Ill bet help could be found in either forum. A lot of drifters know how to tune their drift cars and a lot of tuners like to drift. Situations like this may need a thread that appears in both? (Not 2 threads, just one that shows up in multiple forums, no idea if that's even possible or not) because I've seen this discussion happen before. Just a thought.

Either way, hope you find a good tune! :)

Edit: Urie just read your last post, you've been on GTP longer than I and know the subforums better so your advice is probably best. still would be cool if there were a way to merge somehow. I've asked drift tuning questions before in the tuning forum and been politely asked to move to the drift forum lol
 
If I'm not mistaken this is the solution.

I'm not sure however as I very rarely use other peoples tunes, so I haven't come across this issue of not being able to get to X ratio

DegenThought
Edit: Urie just read your last post, you've been on GTP longer than I and know the subforums better so your advice is probably best. still would be cool if there were a way to merge somehow. I've asked drift tuning questions before in the tuning forum and been politely asked to move to the drift forum lol
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Not sure what you mean so I'll just answer both possibilities - Mods can merge two threads together and I don't think there's much of a need for a specific subforum for drift tuning.

The thing is with the tuning subforum is that they're mostly grip drivers, they can't offer much to a drifter outside of the basics.
So there's sort of a grey area on where drift tuning questions belong. Personally I believe they belong here, possibly as a another subforum within the drift sub forum like with drifting videos and Teams & Meets
(Drift-ception) I'm so sorry not really

However as I've said this isn't really a drifting question and can be answered in the tuning forum (hopefully in the link I provided so that another thread isn't necessary)
 
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miko1337
Tuning the ratios correctly in order for them to be functional during
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I only said it was clearly drift related because of this post.


I have little experience with ratio tuning and usually just roughly move things about till it works, shorter ratio's work best and that's the simple rule I go by.
 
GTWelsh
I only said it was clearly drift related because of this post.


I have little experience with ratio tuning and usually just roughly move things about till it works, shorter ratio's work best and that's the simple rule I go by.
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While that may be true the original topic was attempting to solve why his gear ratios couldn't get to the ratios given by the original tuner.

It wasn't written in such a way that I interpret as a request for tips for setting up gearboxes for drifting. Hence the reactions of "This should be in the tuning forum" as it's general tuning related not specifically drifting. As such this question would be best asked in the tuning forum.

But we're just going around in circles repeating the same thing here so I won't be discussing the matter further as it is now very seriously derailing the thread.

If anybody wishes to discuss this further my PM box is open, I don't bite :lol:
 
miko1337
Trying to figure out how to get the final gear ratio and top speed on this tune to work on my car.

It says the tops speed is 124, and the final gear ratio is 3.940.

But when I adjust the final gear to 3.940 and the speed down to 124, I can't tune the gears to go as low as the tune says for them to. So I adjust the final gear up to the max, and then I can tune the rest of the gears to what it says. But when I'm done tuning and I tune the final gear down to 3.940, the top speed goes up to 151MPH.

Need some help here I'm really confused.
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First lower your top speed, then change the final gear. Don't do it in the opposite way. If you did it in the opposite way, then reset it to normal, then lower top speed, then change final gear.

TwinTurboCH told me to have a short first gear and a long last gear. I don't know why, but I have exactly opposite lol. But his tunes are based on real life.

You could make a couple of gears shorter, but when you change the final gear, you shouldn't change the gears individually, because it will cause you to get problems while drifting, it will add a boost effect while drifting which can cause you to spin out. If you change the final gear, just change the last and first gear.

If you use a wheel, try to get a good flow between gears 3-5 or 4-5. Make those gears longer, a medium turbo would help for long gears.
 

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