How Will Polyphony Digital Pull Off Graphics and Dynamic weather on PS4

How will GT7 run on Ps4!


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I don't think I've seen it mentioned here yet, but it's possible we could see PD's first (?) implementation of dynamic resolution scaling to particularly help the base PS4 version. This is how PCARS 2 achieved what it did. That game didn't always run well on consoles, but PD's go of it would of course be better/more efficient at least thanks to their intimacy with PlayStation hardware.

This is speculation of course, but I think the PS4 Pro could do well at 1440p with little/no DRS. It's a small step down from GT Sport's 1800p, but perhaps necessary to make room for the added system load that dynamic weather/lighting introduces. I see a 900p future for base PS4.
They can easily implement AMD FSR. It's open source and imo better than dynamic scaling.
 
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Regarding the topic title, if the PS4 is no longer the developmental priority, it's possible. Project CARS had all that and then some. Ran like crap and was further hampered by SMS' bad coding, but it had that.
 
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It also looks to have a (small) monthly subscription fee and also needs three other mods to look like that. There's a reason why this game is so niche, even on PC.
You say that, but when it sells as many units as a Gran Turismo game it's not that niche.

 

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I don't think I've seen it mentioned here yet, but it's possible we could see PD's first (?) implementation of dynamic resolution scaling to particularly help the base PS4 version. This is how PCARS 2 achieved what it did. That game didn't always run well on consoles, but PD's go of it would of course be better/more efficient at least thanks to their intimacy with PlayStation hardware.

This is speculation of course, but I think the PS4 Pro could do well at 1440p with little/no DRS. It's a small step down from GT Sport's 1800p, but perhaps necessary to make room for the added system load that dynamic weather/lighting introduces. I see a 900p future for base PS4.
PC2 ran atrociously on the base PS4, especially in these three conditions: night, anything other than sunny day and large grids. Combine all three and it was painful to drive.

I’m sure GT7 will be much better optimised but still, using PC2 as a reference is not that great.

I’m still waiting to see how dynamic weather works in the game. Dynamic time of day is already heavy for the hardware, with weather effects on top, I fear people on the base PS4 will have a thought time playing at a stable frame rate, even at 30.
 

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You say that, but when it sells as many units as a Gran Turismo game it's not that niche.

So according to reports in a gtplanet article it only sold 1.4 million copies until the 2017 Digital Bros. takeover, and then over 10 million since? Seems a bit odd. Could those units be all the separate DLC's as well? Still seems high though, even at less than €6 per unit.


Edit: While I don't know how accurate SteamSpy is the updated data is up from the 400k reported in the gtplanet article to between 1 and 2 million now so it's hard to see where all these sales are. There's no way (IMO) they've sold 10 million copies on console.

 
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Well it's in their financial reports, you don't lie in those unless you want serious trouble.
In their Assetto Corsa section they also call ACC an episode and make referance to it using the Unreal 4 engine (ACC does, but not AC) in it's bullet points so I'm not sure it's just purely Assetto Corsa the game in those sales figures. Pretty impressive if it's true though.

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PC2 ran atrociously on the base PS4, especially in these three conditions: night, anything other than sunny day and large grids. Combine all three and it was painful to drive.
How the hell did I manage then?
In their Assetto Corsa section they also call ACC an episode and make referance to it using the Unreal 4 engine (ACC does, but not AC) in it's bullet points so I'm not sure it's just purely Assetto Corsa the game in those sales figures. Pretty impressive if it's true though.

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12 million copies sold on PC, Xbox and PlayStation.
 

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How the hell did I manage then?
Maybe we have different standards but going from GTS to PC2 the performance was noticeable worst when those factors were at play. Maybe that’s why PD decided not to implement them in GTSport back then (dynamic weather, ToD and large grids).
 
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"Asseto Corsa" is a game available on both Playstation now and XBox Game Pass. Does anyone who tests the game on these services count as "sale"?

Still I find these numbers hard to believe. Project Cars has been much more present in the general conversation having sold just over 2 million between PS4, XBox One and PC.
 
Asseto has not sold almost the same as Gran Turismo 3 or Gran Turismo 4. These numbers are product of the Gamepass, with some other parameters. I remember there was a game with the same "wording", I think it was Horizon, and they clarified it included Gamepass under certain conditions (not sure if it was the amount of hours played). Please, don't be so naive.
 
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The weird thing to me about your videos is that how have we seen FPS fluctuations in the main game with out having remotely close to the things you're testing. Something really isn't adding up between your videos and what we've seen.

My videos are recorded by the PS4, so would any dip be less noticeable with its halved frame rate capture? The 38 car / rain combo performance in GTS is damn good, and better than any other PS4 racing game I've experienced. I tip my hat to Polyphony.

I've just been doing some storage cleaning and found another video from game play view.

 
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In their Assetto Corsa section they also call ACC an episode and make referance to it using the Unreal 4 engine (ACC does, but not AC) in it's bullet points so I'm not sure it's just purely Assetto Corsa the game in those sales figures. Pretty impressive if it's true though.

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If I recall, each element of DLC counts as a sale. No way they have sold 12 millions copies of the game itself. It doesn't behave like that in steam usage charts.
 
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If I recall, each element of DLC counts as a sale. No way they have sold 12 millions copies of the game itself. It doesn't behave like that in steam usage charts.
I agree, there's no way it's sold 12 million copies/units on it's own merits. Whether it be by Gamepass, DLC, adding ACC figures or Humble Bundle being used to inflate the numbers it's still a niche title (a good one too IMO).
 
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Asseto has not sold almost the same as Gran Turismo 3 or Gran Turismo 4. These numbers are product of the Gamepass, with some other parameters. I remember there was a game with the same "wording", I think it was Horizon, and they clarified it included Gamepass under certain conditions (not sure if it was the amount of hours played). Please, don't be so naive.
It's a good job that there was never such a thing as hardware bundling that could also throw off the sales numbers like that.
 
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And I can’t wait to see how the PS4/PS5 combo package, ticks the sales for either system. Still wonder if a potentially 10 million PS5 users, buy the GT7PS5 25th anniversary with the PS4 code, does that mean there are also 10 million GT7PS4 sales.
 

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And I can’t wait to see how the PS4/PS5 combo package, ticks the sales for either system. Still wonder if a potentially 10 million PS5 users, buy the GT7PS5 25th anniversary with the PS4 code, does that mean there are also 10 million GT7PS4 sales.
Surely it’d have to based on the number of codes activated. I don’t know for certain, but that would make sense to me.
 
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Surely it’d have to based on the number of codes activated. I don’t know for certain, but that would make sense to me.
I’d like to think so, but if people bought physical copies and never open the box, is that a sale or not? I’ve got a PS4 only, but bought the Delux Digital PS5/PS4. Of course, the game will be on my PS4, but when I get a PS5 and start playing with my PS5 download, does it then count as a sale? What if I don’t play the PS4 and just wait til I get a PS5? I don’t need a definite answer, but those are the questions I’m pondering.
 
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In response to the OP: 30fps, 1080p maximum - perhaps lower than that on base PS4.

That may be how plus since release there may have been years of development time devoted to engine and optimization. Looking at GT Sport's tracks and comparing it to e.g. the detailed environments and weather effects of Driveclub I can't help but think that GT is not maxing out the PS4. If Polyphony will devote enough effort to doing that is of course another topic.

Seems unlikely though that this is a full-on PS5 dev project that had to be retargeted to PS4 at the last minute at the request of corporate. More likely that they always had a PS4 build and were only scaling up and enabling features on top of that.