HSV vs FPV

[MAttCV8]

which is better?

 

[MAttCV8]

Fords ****y 5.4L against a Gen4 6.0L V8

 

[DRIFT4EVA]

HSV, duh.

 

[Jay]

Fords ****y 5.4L against a Gen4 6.0L V8

I prefer the GM 6.0L LS2 over Fords hand built 5.4L V8, but I have always been GM biased over Ford.

Care to explain why you think the Ford 5.4L is so " ****y " ?

 

[Super Jamie]

who cares? aussies always go on about ford and holden like they're massively different, when in reality they're two almost-same manufacturers making similar cars for the same market, and all that really separates the models is 10kw here or there, and 0.1s over the quarter mile and a few minor interior differences

and in reality, these figures don't even matter, what's best is what your dad brought you up to like best, or who won v8 supercars more when you got into cars, or wether your first car was a banged up commodore/gemini or an equally banged up falcon/escort

both HSV and FPV get totally smacked down by japanese cars of the same specification (FR performance saloon), so toyota and nissan are better than both

 

[Cap'n Jack]

HSV for sure. FPV can't even make good clutches
HSV's are alos alot more powerful

 

[miniMADness]

FPV's F6 Typhoon is pretty nice, love the interor and that front mount.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Super Jamie id love to see some specifications and facts backing up your posts.

Our home grown GTS coupe went 0-60mph in under 5 seconds.

HSV anyday, FPV cant match HSV.

The top FPV goes up against the middle HSV.

Once HSV start tuning the new engine to get the same power as the corvette, all hell will break lose.

 

[cpl_richie]

in reality, these figures don't even matter, what's best is what your dad brought you up to like best, or who won v8 supercars more when you got into cars, or wether your first car was a banged up commodore/gemini or an equally banged up falcon/escort

You're right, I doubt that there are few buyers that sway in between the two brands, No matter how good or bad the product is. For whatever reason people tend to be one or the other.

both HSV and FPV get totally smacked down by japanese cars of the same specification (FR performance saloon), so toyota and nissan are better than both

Well when Toyota or Nissan sell an FR performance saloon in Australia (grey imports don't count) that offers the same level of performance for a comparable price then you can make that comparison all day, until then I don't think that arguement carries much weight.

 

[Super Jamie]

it's too expensive to swap brands. change your holden for a ford and you need to buy all new stubbie coolers, shirts, backpack, watch, posters for the garage, etc etc

i think imports count these days. it's not hard if you life in or near a capital city to walk into somewhere like sydney's big boys toys or street machines on the gold coast, and walk away with a modified supra or tommykaira gtr. i know if i was going to spend the better part of 100 grand on a car and i wanted real performance, i wouldn't be limiting myself to just local product. much better to buy a skyline or 350z or soarer or supra and spend the remainder (or not even than) on mods and have something that will totally smoke most other cars on the road, never mind a stock hsv for the same money

that being said, nizpro have a 1000hp package for the BA xr6 turbo, which is only $35000. considering you usually spend over double or triple that to get equivalent reliable power out of a 2JZ or RB26, maybe we have something to stick to the Japanese?

 

[Super Jamie]

our local asian offering is pretty weak though. sportivo camry, celica, and mr spyder. blerch

 

[Danny]

FPV because they're good cars.

 

[slimer90210]

HSV, but then I have always liked GM better....

 

[High-Test]

I love all the detroit backed Iron just the same.





**GASP** did I just say that?

I like The FPV's looks, but I'm a GM guy.

 

[Schrodes]

I prefer the GM 6.0L LS2 over Fords hand built 5.4L V8, but I have always been GM biased over Ford.

You'll probably prefer the 7 litre HSV might get from GM that is being used in the Corvette.

 

[Jay]

You'll probably prefer the 7 litre HSV might get from GM that is being used in the Corvette.

Nah, 7L is a peice of junk.... of coarse I would prefer the 7L

 

[SkylineObsession]

I prefer Ford over Holden. But if i ever won a powerfull V8 Holden (like in Lotto or soemthing) i woudn't sell it for a few months. I'd only sell it when i found a decent R32 GT-R.

 

[KevsfastZ]

HSV, Ford blows

 

[Sniffs]

Got pics? haven't had a hint up here of anything brewing down under since the "monaro" rumors for the base of GTO.

oh...do us a favour...send the Falcon back up here...be a better replacement for the late Mondeo clone we ended up with.
better yet...tell nissan I'l order up a couple Slivys

 

[princenigel]

Jamie a 1000 HP XR6 turbo is not going to have any grip would rather own a 600HP skyline. I find it pretty hard to get excited about Holdens and Fords (and wrx's) due to both being four door sedans. for me a sports car has to have two doors (exception being something like the rx8) and look at least somewhat like a "reclining woman" or whatever the analogy is. the monaro looks more like a tic-tac, but i definately woudln't mind swapping my 200sx for a black hsv coupe

 

[Super Jamie]

if you've ever seen a powerful skyline (800hp at the wheels), they don't really have much grip either, even if you're used to the car and trying to drive sensibly, it's hard to keep it from slipping all over the place. i have seen one. several actually

i like your monaro analogy, i'm going to use that but i would take a turbo S15 over any HSV offering. build quality, reliability, value, depreciation. i don't understand why people buy new cars full stop, let alone a hundred thousand dollar commodore

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

who cares? aussies always go on about ford and holden like they're massively different, when in reality they're two almost-same manufacturers making similar cars for the same market, and all that really separates the models is 10kw here or there, and 0.1s over the quarter mile and a few minor interior differences

and in reality, these figures don't even matter, what's best is what your dad brought you up to like best, or who won v8 supercars more when you got into cars, or wether your first car was a banged up commodore/gemini or an equally banged up falcon/escort

both HSV and FPV get totally smacked down by japanese cars of the same specification (FR performance saloon), so toyota and nissan are better than both

The Japanese Crap of same specs as Holden gets flogged, I've seen it myself 1001 times. And they are quite different in apperance for anyone with half a brain. And the fact that they're so close in specs makes them in such close competition together. If Holden flogged Ford by a second down the quarter Ford would have no reason to exist in Australia.

P.S. Choke on that "Super whatever"

 

[princenigel]

if you've ever seen a powerful skyline (800hp at the wheels), they don't really have much grip either, even if you're used to the car and trying to drive sensibly, it's hard to keep it from slipping all over the place. i have seen one. several actually

i like your monaro analogy, i'm going to use that but i would take a turbo S15 over any HSV offering. build quality, reliability, value, depreciation. i don't understand why people buy new cars full stop, let alone a hundred thousand dollar commodore

i wouldn't actually pay a hundred grand for one, but if anyone wanted to swap theirs for a 200sx i'd do it in a heartbeat. first mod would a choptop so it's not so much of a jellybean

when you say you've seen several high powered skylines, do you mean mpgs or in real life? the mines skyline in best motoring was certainly a sight to behold.. according to dori dori it accelerates as well as gt500, and is more scary than fun to drive wonder how much hp it had..