Laps per track count

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ThomasH1977
While playing GT4 I always felt that some tracks have to be raced mor often than others. Of course, on tracks with endurance races it is obvious. But in the other events I thought it is not balanced.
In GT3 I often raced in Midfield, Trial Mountain, Special Stage 5. Sometimes I loved it, sometimes I hated it because it was too often. Or what about Test Course: whenever I was having fun the next race to do was on that track which was not fun.
So I counted the number of laps you have to do on all tracks to complete the game. I did not include Rally Courses and it was not possible to count laps of 4h, 8h, 9h and 24h races in endurance mode.
SO here it is then:
Track Laps

Motegi - West Course 10
Test Course 10
Apricot Hill Reverse 11
Clubman Stage Route 5 11
Seattle Circuit Reverse 11
Autumn Ring Mini 12
Clubman Stage Route 5 Reverse 12
Autumn Ring 14
Deep Forest 14
Midfield Raceway 14
Opera Paris Reverse 14
Deep Forest Reverse 15
Midfield Raceway Reverse 15
Motorland 15
Trial Mountain Reverse 15
Hong Kong Reverse 17
Special Stage Route 5 Reverse 17
Autumn Ring Mini Reverse 18
Special Stage Route 5 18
Trial Mountain 18
Apricot Hill 19
Fuji Speedway 2005 GT 19
Tokyo Route 246 Reverse 19
Infineon - Stockcar 20
Highspeed Ring Reverse 21
New York Reverse 23
Fuji Speedway '80 25
Seattle Circuit 26
Motegi - East Course 27
Autumn Ring Reverse 30
El Capitan Reverse 30
Seoul Central Reverse 32
Grand Valley Speedway Reverse 37
La Sarthe II 37
La Sarthe I 39
Beginner Course 43
Hong Kong 45
Motorland Reverse 49
Nurburgring 55
Suzuka East Course 55
Fuji Speedway 2005 80
Highspeed Ring 82
Motegi Road Course 113
Infineon - Sportscar 126
Tsukuba Circuit 131
Seoul Central 140
Grand Valley Speedway 142
Tokyo Route 246 145
Opera Paris 167
El Capitan 175
New York 182
Côte d'Azur 207
Laguna Seca 243
Motegi Super Speedway 263
Fuji Speedway '90 278
Suzuka Circuit 286​
 
Thanks for doing that, it's pretty interesting to see how the laps are skewed in favour of some courses and not others!
+rep from me! :cheers:
 
Wow, nice work 👍.


+Rep from me aswell :).

I've never given you rep but I still need to spread some more around :confused:.
 
I find it especially interesting how some tracks and their reverse version are equally balanced and some are not. Like e.g. Opera Paris and Tokyo R246 (although 99 laps come from the 1000 miles event).
 
Funny how Suzuka West = 0... it's a nice challenging track, much more fun than its eastern counterpart.
 
Funny how Suzuka West = 0... it's a nice challenging track, much more fun than its eastern counterpart.

MUCH more fun indeed. I really hate Suzuka East. Very boring.

Anyway, +Rep for a good write up! :)👍

Just one think though, you got Motegi West and Suzuka West mixed up. Not a big deal though.
 
Great job Wunderkind!

I did smething similar, but I ranked them by miles and included the timed enduros. The way you can do this is to base each one by the most laps completed by the best performing AI car of the entire list of possible AI cars for each of those races.

Here is the list I made:
  • Miles Laps Races(reg_rev_end) end = 150 mile race or longer

  1. 3,967 470 _3 (_1__0__2) World Circuits___ Circuit de la Sarthe II
  2. 3,765 444 _9 (_7__0__2) World Circuits___ Circuit de la Sarthe I
  3. 3,597 278 15 (11__0__4) World Circuits___ Nürburgring Nordschleife
  4. 1,047 290 23 (21__0__2) World Circuits___ Suzuka Circuit
  5. 1,031 812 33 (31__0__2) World Circuits___ Tsukuba Circuit
  6. __963 323 12 (10__0__2) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - Road Course
  7. __764 280 19 (18__0__1) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 90's
  8. __610 242 16 (14__0__2) World Circuits___ Infineon Raceway - Sports Car Course
  9. __609 205 24 (12_10__2) Original Circuits El Capitan
  10. __544 243 22 (20__0__2) World Circuits___ Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
  11. __531 205 15 (_6__7__2) City Courses_____ New York
  12. __522 164 17 (_9__6__2) City Courses_____ Tokyo Route 246
  13. __497 162 13 (_5__6__2) Original Circuits Grand Valley Speedway
  14. __431 207 11 (_9__0__2) City Courses_____ Côte d'Azur
  15. __395 263 _5 (_3__0__2) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway
  16. __324 181 21 (14__6__1) City Courses_____ Opera Paris
  17. __291 172 10 (_5__4__1) City Courses_____ Seoul Central
  18. __256 103 _8 (_2__5__1) Original Circuits High-Speed Ring
  19. __227 _80 _5 (_4__0__1) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 2005
  20. __112 _62 13 (_7__6__0) City Courses_____ Hong Kong
  21. ___92 _39 13 (10__3__0) City Courses_____ Seattle Circuit
  22. ___82 _35 14 (_8__6__0) City Courses_____ Special Stage Route 5
  23. ___82 _33 12 (_7__5__0) Original Circuits Trial Mountain Circuit
  24. ___77 _32 12 (_7__5__0) Original Circuits Apricot Hill Raceway
  25. ___76 _55 13 (13__0__0) World Circuits___ Suzuka Circuit East Course
  26. ___73 _40 13 (_6__7__0) Original Circuits Autumn Ring
  27. ___67 _25 _8 (_8__0__0) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 80's
  28. ___65 _29 11 (_4__7__0) Original Circuits Deep Forest Raceway
  29. ___64 _10 _3 (_3__0__0) Driving Park_____ Test Course
  30. ___64 _29 _9 (_4__5__0) Original Circuits Mid-Field Raceway
  31. ___58 _27 11 (11__0__0) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - East Short Course
  32. ___53 _19 _3 (_3__0__0) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 2005 GT
  33. ___43 _52 _8 (_4__4__0) Driving Park_____ Motor Sports Land II
  34. ___40 _20 _3 (_3__0__0) World Circuits___ Infineon Raceway - Stock Car Course
  35. ___35 _23 _7 (_3__4__0) City Courses_____ Clubman Stage Route 5
  36. ___30 _16 _6 (_3__3__0) Original Circuits Grand Valley East
  37. ___27 _34 10 (_5__5__0) Original Circuits Autumn Ring Mini
  38. ___21 _43 _4 (_4__0__0) Driving Park_____ Beginner Course
  39. ___10 _12 _2 (_1__1__0) Driving Park_____ Motorland
  40. ____9 _10 _3 (_3__0__0) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - West Short Course



  1. ___50 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) City Courses_____ Costa di Amalfi
  2. ___45 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) Dirt_____________ Tahiti Maze
  3. ___44 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) Dirt_____________ Grand Canyon
  4. ___44 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) Dirt_____________ Cathedral Rocks Trail I
  5. ___42 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) City Courses_____ Citta di Aria
  6. ___41 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) Dirt_____________ Swiss Alps
  7. ___40 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) Snow_____________ Chamonix
  8. ___31 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) City Courses_____ George V Paris
  9. ___24 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) Dirt_____________ Cathedral Rocks Trail II
  10. ___13 _20 _6 (_3__3__0) Snow_____________ Ice Arena
  11. ___13 _20 _3 (_3__0__0) World Circuits___ Tsukuba Circuit - Wet


EDIT:

Here is how the top 40 listed above rank by total number of races:

  1. 33 (31__0__2) World Circuits___ Tsukuba Circuit
  2. 24 (12_10__2) Original Circuits El Capitan
  3. 23 (21__0__2) World Circuits___ Suzuka Circuit
  4. 22 (20__0__2) World Circuits___ Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
  5. 21 (14__6__1) City Courses_____ Opera Paris
  6. 19 (18__0__1) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 90's
  7. 17 (_9__6__2) City Courses_____ Tokyo Route 246
  8. 16 (14__0__2) World Circuits___ Infineon Raceway - Sports Car Course
  9. 15 (11__0__4) World Circuits___ Nürburgring Nordschleife
  10. 15 (_6__7__2) City Courses_____ New York
  11. 14 (_8__6__0) City Courses_____ Special Stage Route 5
  12. 13 (_5__6__2) Original Circuits Grand Valley Speedway
  13. 13 (_7__6__0) City Courses_____ Hong Kong
  14. 13 (10__3__0) City Courses_____ Seattle Circuit
  15. 13 (13__0__0) World Circuits___ Suzuka Circuit East Course
  16. 13 (_6__7__0) Original Circuits Autumn Ring
  17. 12 (10__0__2) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - Road Course
  18. 12 (_7__5__0) Original Circuits Trial Mountain Circuit
  19. 12 (_7__5__0) Original Circuits Apricot Hill Raceway
  20. 11 (_4__7__0) Original Circuits Deep Forest Raceway
  21. 11 (_9__0__2) City Courses_____ Côte d'Azur
  22. 11 (11__0__0) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - East Short Course
  23. 10 (_5__4__1) City Courses_____ Seoul Central
  24. 10 (_5__5__0) Original Circuits Autumn Ring Mini
  25. _9 (_7__0__2) World Circuits___ Circuit de la Sarthe I
  26. _9 (_4__5__0) Original Circuits Mid-Field Raceway
  27. _8 (_8__0__0) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 80's
  28. _8 (_2__5__1) Original Circuits High-Speed Ring
  29. _8 (_4__4__0) Driving Park_____ Motor Sports Land II
  30. _7 (_3__4__0) City Courses_____ Clubman Stage Route 5
  31. _6 (_3__3__0) Original Circuits Grand Valley East
  32. _5 (_3__0__2) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway
  33. _5 (_4__0__1) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 2005
  34. _4 (_4__0__0) Driving Park_____ Beginner Course
  35. _3 (_3__0__0) Driving Park_____ Test Course
  36. _3 (_3__0__0) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 2005 GT
  37. _3 (_3__0__0) World Circuits___ Infineon Raceway - Stock Car Course
  38. _3 (_1__0__2) World Circuits___ Circuit de la Sarthe II
  39. _3 (_3__0__0) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - West Short Course
  40. _2 (_1__1__0) Driving Park_____ Motorland
 
EDITED THE POST ABOVE: Added a list on how the tracks rank by number of races.


Looking over these figures there are some interesting observations.

Of the 522 races, or 459 if you don't count the special condition races, all but 35 are less than 40 miles long. The total number of miles for those 424 races is only 3,594 miles. Thus, the average of those races is only 8 miles in length.
  • The longest race in that group is the 6th leg of the Professional Gran Turismo World Championship series held on the New York City course, and is 39 miles long.

  • The shortest race is a tie between the first race of the Beginner Sunday Cup series and the third race of the Citroen 2HP - 2CV Classics series, which are both held on the Autumn Ring Mini course, and are only 1.6 miles long.

The remaining 35 races total a whopping 17,958 miles. Thus, the average length of those races is 513 miles!
  • The longest of those races is the Circuit de la Sarthe 24hr II (Group C classic Le Mans), which the best AI car, Sauber Mercedes C 9, will complete 433 laps, or 3,655 miles.

  • The shortest race is the Super Speedway 150 Miles, which is held at the Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway.

Considering how much those 35 races effect the mileage ranking, I thought it might be interesting to see how these tracks might rank differently if I did not include the 150+ mile races:
  • Miles Races (average length)
  1. 235 21 (11) World Circuits___ Suzuka Circuit
  2. 223 22 (10) Original Circuits El Capitan
  3. 194 11 (18) World Circuits___ Nürburgring Nordschleife
  4. 166 31 ( 5) World Circuits___ Tsukuba Circuit
  5. 154 20 ( 8) City Courses_____ Opera Paris
  6. 152 20 ( 8) World Circuits___ Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca
  7. 146 10 (15) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - Road Course
  8. 142 18 ( 8) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 90's
  9. 142 13 (11) City Courses_____ New York
  10. 140 15 ( 9) City Courses_____ Tokyo Route 246
  11. 136 _7 (19) World Circuits___ Circuit de la Sarthe I
  12. 126 14 ( 9) World Circuits___ Infineon Raceway - Sports Car Course
  13. 123 11 (11) Original Circuits Grand Valley Speedway
  14. 112 13 ( 9) City Courses_____ Hong Kong
  15. 100 _9 (11) City Courses_____ Seoul Central
  16. _92 13 ( 7) City Courses_____ Seattle Circuit
  17. _82 14 ( 6) City Courses_____ Special Stage Route 5
  18. _82 12 ( 7) Original Circuits Trial Mountain Circuit
  19. _77 12 ( 6) Original Circuits Apricot Hill Raceway
  20. _76 13 ( 6) World Circuits___ Suzuka Circuit East Course
  21. _73 13 ( 6) Original Circuits Autumn Ring
  22. _67 _8 ( 8) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 80's
  23. _65 _7 ( 9) Original Circuits High-Speed Ring
  24. _65 11 ( 6) Original Circuits Deep Forest Raceway
  25. _64 _3 (21) Driving Park_____ Test Course
  26. _64 _9 ( 7) Original Circuits Mid-Field Raceway
  27. _62 _9 ( 7) City Courses_____ Côte d'Azur
  28. _58 11 ( 5) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - East Short Course
  29. _54 _3 (18) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi Super Speedway
  30. _53 _3 (18) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 2005 GT
  31. _43 _8 ( 5) Driving Park_____ Motor Sports Land II
  32. _40 _3 (13) World Circuits___ Infineon Raceway - Stock Car Course
  33. _37 _4 ( 9) World Circuits___ Fuji Speedway 2005
  34. _35 _7 ( 5) City Courses_____ Clubman Stage Route 5
  35. _30 _6 ( 5) Original Circuits Grand Valley East
  36. _27 10 ( 3) Original Circuits Autumn Ring Mini
  37. _21 _4 ( 5) Driving Park_____ Beginner Course
  38. _17 _1 (17) World Circuits___ Circuit de la Sarthe II
  39. _10 _2 ( 5) Driving Park_____ Motorland
  40. __9 _3 ( 3) World Circuits___ Twin Ring Motegi - West Short Course
 
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