Mountain Lion Attacks!

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Here is a scary story that happened locally. Not making me feel comfortable having my boys out in the back yard these days. I saw them hunt it down on live TV. Hunting is easy when you have FLIR and a helicopter.

Note: You might have trouble getting the story, but just try it agian, and it should work.

MSNBC - Mountain lion attacks bicyclists in California
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3912806/
 
What in gods name are mountain lions? Ive honestly never heard of them before. That must suck tough having your children being eaten in your backyard. Id be too scared to leave the home, well thats a little exagerated but Im thinking of big-ass african lions since I dunno what mountain lions are.
 
Lol that didnt quite come out right did it? I meant the risk of your kids getting injured.

PS: Thought I should clear that up, also the edit button wouldnt work but Ill try again later.
 
Yes, your first post didn't sound right, lol.

This is a mountain lion. They're absolutely gorgeous animals, I love'm, but they are very deadly. Usually, they run away from humans, but not the one in the story. He obviously didn't need food when he attacked the lady. There was plenty of the man left to eat, which shows how aggressive this 110 lb. male mountain lion they shot was.

I'm sure his instinct to chase after anything that runs from it was triggered by the lady cyclist riding by. So, this was a very deadly, aggressive cat.

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Mountain lions are cougars, which I believe are the same things as panthers.
 
They aren't the same thing. It seems that panthers and cougars may be the same, though the names are used for the mountain lion. Of course, the ml may just be a cougar/panther and not a lion. Unless lions are part of the leopard family.
 
Two of the most beautiful wild cats in the world are white Siberian tigers and black Panthers.
 
Mountain Lions are also caled Pumas, like the shoes. Just imagine your house cat weighing about 200 lbs and you'll get the idea.
 
I've never understood the reasoning behind "it attacked a person. we must hunt it down, kill it, and study its dead remains." How about just don't go there anymore. Why must we conqure and destroy everything? It's stupid.
 
Yeah. Lets just let animals destroy humans and then cower in fear when we know they will do it, which is a proven indicator of them doing it again. We'll just not go "there" anymore. That makes a lot of sense, especially when you consider that "there" is a massive, undefined area where people live. What you said is stupid.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
I've never understood the reasoning behind "it attacked a person. we must hunt it down, kill it, and study its dead remains." How about just don't go there anymore. Why must we conqure and destroy everything? It's stupid.
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The problem with that thinking is, the area where this cat attacked these 2 people...and killed one of them...is a very popular wilderness park that I've personally mountain biked in and is very close to commercial and residential areas. I'm all for protecting animals and wildlife, but not when they pose and very serious threat to humans. :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
Oh, you're right. Lets just go kill everything then. We're pretty good at that.
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Nobody ever said that. Why are you saying it?

We are humans. We go where we please. No cat will control us. And that bothers you? Do you think as humans we should be the only animal that allows itself to be controlled by another?
 
Originally posted by milefile
We are humans. We go where we please. No cat will control us. And that bothers you? Do you think as humans we should be the only animal that allows itself to be controlled by another?
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Not to seem like I'm jumping back and forth over this fence, but part of the problem with attacks like this is the over population and over development of areas that these types of animals used to occupy. The area where this attack occurred was barren wilderness 10 years ago. Most of the land where I live was the same. When I 1st moved in 9 years ago, we would have coyotes roaming the neighborhood in the middle of the night looking for stray cats and rabbits. Now, all of the land for 10 miles around is full of new homes and the coyotes and mountain lions are being squeezed out. As a result, we have an over population of rabbits in our neighborhood and the predators are forced to look for alternate sources of food. It's the circle of life that man is disrupting...and then they wonder why these things happen. :rolleyes:
 
Yes, I agree with you to some degree, NijaTurtle, but I think the big problem here is a combination of things. First, we had a lot of scorched mountains that took a lot of wildlife which is food for the mountain lions.

Two, there has been an overpopulation problem with MLs for a few years now, but instead of issuing more hunting permits (tags) to hunt them, the Fish and Game uses the publicity for more funding, saying,"If we had more funds, this wouldn't happen."

Finally, Califronia is very well known for being anti hunting, and anti sport shooting. This way of government has caused wild life populations to sky rocket here in California.
 
Originally posted by milefile
Nobody ever said that. Why are you saying it?

We are humans. We go where we please. No cat will control us. And that bothers you? Do you think as humans we should be the only animal that allows itself to be controlled by another?
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You are an idiot. If an animal is attacked by another kind of animal it will stay away from it in the future. They're not dumb.

If we kill any animal that attacks us, and we don't stop invading their habbitats eventually we will have to kill them all off. If there was another intelligent race on this planet that was growing as rapidly as us and invading our habbitat we would fight back too. Perhaps it is easier to find a peaceful median.
 
Originally posted by NinjaTurtle
Not to seem like I'm jumping back and forth over this fence, but part of the problem with attacks like this is the over population and over development of areas that these types of animals used to occupy. The area where this attack occurred was barren wilderness 10 years ago. Most of the land where I live was the same. When I 1st moved in 9 years ago, we would have coyotes roaming the neighborhood in the middle of the night looking for stray cats and rabbits. Now, all of the land for 10 miles around is full of new homes and the coyotes and mountain lions are being squeezed out. As a result, we have an over population of rabbits in our neighborhood and the predators are forced to look for alternate sources of food. It's the circle of life that man is disrupting...and then they wonder why these things happen. :rolleyes:
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NO! We're not disrupting anything. We're winning! It's called survival of the fittest. The notion that humanity should stop growing, or even shrink itself is absurd.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic
You are an idiot. If an animal is attacked by another kind of animal it will stay away from it in the future. They're not dumb.
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No, you are an idiot. If an animal is attacked by another animal it will fight back. It will kill it. Show me where this is not the case? In the case of wild animals you obviously don't even have to attack them, just make them feel threatened and you're a dead man. They do nothing to accomodate us. We do a lot to accomodate them.
 
Originally posted by LoudMusic


If we kill any animal that attacks us, and we don't stop invading their habbitats eventually we will have to kill them all off. If there was another intelligent race on this planet that was growing as rapidly as us and invading our habbitat we would fight back too. Perhaps it is easier to find a peaceful median.
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Where do you suggest we live?
 
I caught this story last night on the news. They were interviewing some of the bikers that came upon the scene where the lion had its victim. It’s such a cool story! The one biker throwing a rock and hitting the mountain lion in the head to save the victim… that guy is a badass! If it had been me throwing the rock I probably would have hit the victim’s friend who was keeping the victim from being dragged and the result would have been that the mountain lion made off with the girl.

Anyway, human beings go and live where they want and should not be intimidated by other animals. That being said, nobody is advocating that we go out of our way to kill every animal we come across. We live in harmony with animals when we can, but we don’t tolerate animals that attack us. There are plenty of parks and preserves where dangerous animals can go live… we don’t need to deal with them picking off bikers.
 
Originally posted by danoff
The one biker throwing a rock and hitting the mountain lion in the head to save the victim… that guy is a badass! If it had been me throwing the rock I probably would have hit the victim’s friend who was keeping the victim from being dragged and the result would have been that the mountain lion made off with the girl.
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Ha ha, I thought the exact same thing when reading that story in the paper this morning. It also occurred to me that, with my kind of luck, I would hit it but then it would turn and start attacking me.

Really, that was kind of a scary story though... I mean, it dragged the lady by her head for some 30 feet! That had to hurt.

As for the argument about whether it was right to put it to death, I totally agree with milefile and danoff – Sure, if we kill every mountain lion on site now that one has killed a human, then we'd be off-base. But killing one known man-eater for the sake of keeping a widely-used park open for thousands of people to enjoy isn't uncalled for. Keep in mind, we are higher than animals... that doesn't give us the right to disrespect them, but we do have certain rights that they don't. And don't accuse me of hating animals for saying that, because I'm quite the nature lover... in fact, I'm expecting our raccoons to visit us within the hour for some food. :)
 
Originally posted by NinjaTurtle
The problem with that thinking is, the area where this cat attacked these 2 people...and killed one of them...is a very popular wilderness park that I've personally mountain biked in and is very close to commercial and residential areas. I'm all for protecting animals and wildlife, but not when they pose and very serious threat to humans. :rolleyes:
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Maybe they should have thought about it before they started building stuff there same things happening in Sydney ATM, the houses are too expensive in the inner-city so ppl start building further and further away which ruins many reserves and things, soon Sydney is gonna run ouit of room and they'll start building up and up, wish ppl would move to fckin Adelaide or somethin.
 
I actually had a scary situation with a wild animal....two actually!!, one time when me and my buddy where out camping we were hiking along a trail, and suddenly we see a black bear quite a far bit down the trail, the bear notices us, pauses and walks off into the bush (there are trees on both sides of the path, quite dense) we are a little worried, but since we are going in a big circle, the fastest way back to camp is to continue on forward, so we walk for like 5 minutes and no sighn of the bear, just as we are coming up to the camp it sounds like someone is behind us, so we turn around, to find the bear about 10 ft behind us, and obviously we are not going to run...well because then he would try to attack us, we just stand there facing him, he takes a few steps forward, stopes and just turns aroud and trots off into the trees, (he was a younger, probably a teenage bear, and my buddy is a 220lbs 6,ft 4 football player) so i guess he decided not to try anything, but later that day we found out that when a bear is actually going to attack a person, he spots them, runs off into the trees, bush etc. and attacks them from behind! and if you get in that situation, the only thing you can do is fight back!! (black bear, do that to a grizzly and you are dead) so that was very scary!! and well the other one is not near as bad, just very startling,

it was while I was staying at a cabin near the mountains (same area as before) and it was in the morning i was woken up by a large clatter, and my bed was right near a sliding glass door, so i peak through the blinds, and my whole view is taken up by a huge bear ass! this time it was a HUGE grizzly bear, he was looking through the garbage, he never noticed me, so i closed the blinds and made sure the door was locked, and I mean, this thaing was absolutly MASSIVE!!!! i have never seen such a large bear, but i guess when you are looking at it from my angle, it may seem lager at the time!:lol: and at that point my little brotherasks what is all the noise, so I told him it was squirrels on the roof:lol: and he went back to bed...meanwhile i went into my dads backpack and got the bear spray....just in case....but like 2 minutes later he took off.

so i have had quite the encounters! but its probably because I spend alot of time camping ,hiking and fishing up in the mountain area...I have other stories...but I have been typing for too long...so I will if people ask me!:D
 

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