Normal Car Cup

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 1' started by psonefreak, Apr 15, 2002.

  1. psonefreak

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    If anyone beat the Normal Car Cup, what car did you beat it with? I went with the Dodge Viper RT/10 even though the sugested one is the GTS. The RT/10 is a few hundred pounds lighter with the same HP.
     
  2. kyle

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    Viper GTS. I would only do it for the cold hard cash. :mischievous:
     
  3. Dudebusta

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    yeah i used the gts...the TRD3000GT was still up there though
     
  4. Shannon

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    i used the rt/10, it's cheaper, lighter with the same horsepower...
     
  5. Dudebusta

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    GTS handles better though
     
  6. Shannon

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    I already had a fully tuned GTS when I did the Normal Car Cup and I didn't want to buy two of the same car.
     
  7. troy

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    the trd300gt is cool
     
  8. Shannon

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    but that's hard as all **** to get
     
  9. Dudebusta

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    is it a prize car? i never got it in all the times i did gt1
     
  10. vat_man

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    From memory it was the prize for getting all gold in the second highest license level. If I remember correctly the prize for all gold in the highest license level was some tuned GT-R (400R?)
     
  11. Dudebusta

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    dunno. havent played gt1 for a few months.
     
  12. Shannon

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    B License all golds gave you the red concept car, A License all golds gave you the TRD3000GT and all gold on IA License gave you...I think...the Nismo400R
     
  13. Gil

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    Viper GTS. I eventually got used to the evil handling.
     
  14. JoniK

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    I've beat it with Viper GTS (very easy), Viper R/T 10 (also very easy) and NSX Type S Zero. The Type S Zero gave some more challenge. I've found that in GT1, the Viper R/T 10 handles better than the GTS.
     
  15. Sk8rKiD

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    It was too long ago for me to remember what I used in the cup. I probably was some kind of Viper cause those were my favorite way back in the day when I was young and innocent...
     
  16. i used the RT/10. the NSX pissed me off, nothing else really seemed right, and the GTS must've been designed wrong, because it likes driving in circles and putting the rear in front when you accellerate.
     
  17. SpeedRaca

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    And yet you still posted that? Such ignorance.
     
  18. Shannon

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    Viper RT/10. Cheaper, lighter, same hp as GTS.
     
  19. MistaY

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    You guys suck. :p

    I managed it in the Griffith, Cerebra, NSX type-R and I swear I did it with an RX-7. Although the first few times I did use a viper GTS.
     
  20. SportWagon

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    Interesting additions (maybe):

    GTO'92twinturbo *
    GTO'95MR

    SupraRZ
    Supra'95RZ
    Toyota TRD3000GT *

    Skyline GT-R'89 *
    Skyline GT-R'95
    Skyline GT-R Vspec
    Skyline GT-R VspecII
    Skyline GT-R Nismo
    Nismo400R *

    NSXtypeS
    NSX'93
    NSX

    Impreza'96WRX STiIII
    ImprezaTypeR
    Impreza'94Wagon

    Corvette'67 *

    * Indicates ones I am sure beat the AI NSX. Often I cheat and reload to race only the TRD with no NSX.

    I never have won with a Mazda.

    Later I managed...

    FD RX-7 '91 Type R *
    FD RX-7 Type RZ *
    FD RX-7 Aspec
     
  21. SportWagon

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    Okay, I've now won (against a no-NSX field) with two Mazdas:

    RX-7 Type RZ
    RX-7 Aspec

    With the AI NSX absent, it seemed relatively easy, although I came second at DFRWii in both cases.

    Both cars felt a little underpowered, and I suspect I would lose to the NSX at SSR11 as well as DFRWii and probably GVEii. I should probably try sometime, though.

    The RX-7 Aspec has the "zero downforce" bug, and did seem a little tricky to handle. All-in-all there didn't seem to be much to choose between the two cars.

    I should be able to get similar results with the much cheaper 1991 RX-7 Type R, as well as the nearly identical new RX-7 Type RB Bathurst. The Touring X has a substantial weight penalty, however.
     
  22. SpeedRaca

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    The suspension on RX-7's is really unstable. i.e. Like run a kerb around a moderately fast corner and one side of your car will start bunny hopping. And when you think thats bad, you go do all mods to the car and watch how bad it gets then - bunny hopping the whole way around a corner, that can lose you a good 5 seconds.
     
  23. focus117

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    I didn't, but my sister did! She used a Dodge Viper (I forgot which one she used though).
     
  24. Pupik

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    Like many others, I used the RT/10. It just seemed to handle so darn well in the license tests. Yes it's easy money...

    I also won with the Cerbera (later on); I won so many Arcade races with an FDRX-7, that I may give the Normal Cup a try in the RZ one day.
     
  25. SportWagon

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    Yup, I used the FD RX-7 '91 Type R, in various forms, to win nearly all series in my last game. I haven't tried to beat the NSX in the Normal (yet), but instead reloaded until it was not there.

    I used a Eunos Cosmo 20B (an' a li'l bit o' luck) in the Mega Speed Cup, though.

    If you race-mod a Touring X it gets interesting-looking green wheels.
     
  26. SportWagon

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    On the weekend I beat the NSX twice in the Normal series, using RX-7's.

    First I used the '91 Type R. It took me two tries. (I.e. I lost once). But after that I managed 2nd at GVEii and 3rd at DFRWii to win by 1 point, 37 to 36. Winning at SSR11 had been tricky (2nd place there there caused me to lose the first time), but by using all the road and some of the walls, and concentrating hard but keeping relaxed throught the central chicane, I managed to squeeze enough extra speed to just barely keep ahead of the NSX.

    After that, I won with the Brilliant Black new RX-7 Type RZ. The series progressed similarly, although I did with this car come very close to winning at GVEii too. I was inside the NSX at the last corner, but couldn't quite pull off the pass.

    In both series, the AI cars were quite vicious at DFRWii. With the '91 Type R I actually got past the TRD for a while, but it rammed into me and sent me way down the field, but luckily I worked my way back up to the required 3rd place. With the Type RZ I was more conservative, but the AI still bashed me around a bit, causing me to have to get third place from behind.
     
  27. takumi64

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    First time: Nissan R32 Skyline GT-R
    Seond time: Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III
    Third time: Subaru Impreza WRX Type R
     
  28. SportWagon

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    For a fully-modded RX-7 (tuned or [R]) softish springs and dampers (e.g. left close to what they are when you fit the Racing Suspension) but stiff stabilizers of 5F/4R seemed to work for me to stop most bouncing. (And get rid of that dreadful final oversteer). Oh yes. Keep the ride height pretty high, too. I went down only to 109/109.

    And watch the brake intensity and balance, too. I use 11/11 tuned, and 12/12 for a race-mod versions of this car.
     
  29. SportWagon

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    Based on my repeated results with the RX-7 Type RZ I think a slightly better player than I should be able to ace the Normal Series (all poles, and all first place) with any FD RX-7 except perhaps the Touring X.

    I actually managed to beat the NSX at Deep Forest with the Type RZ.
     
  30. takumi64

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    Isn't the FD RX-7 Touring X an automatic transmission-only car?