Well, i finally got my DSL workin. So i went ahead and started d/l all the footage of any games i was interested in (cthulhu looks amazing!) anyway... so i just got done watching Le Mans 24 hours footage. And the graphics were better then depicted by the screenshots (alot better) the sense of speed was very nice, and the scenery and tracks were well set up (a few spots impressed me almost as much as GT3) but the cars still looked sucky. the only cars that seemed to be rendered well were cars with alot of curvy surfaces ie.. porche, rx7, viper, etc... it still wasnt enough to make me want to go and pick it up, but its definetly worth renting. the cars did seem to drive very arcadish, but it did look like lots of fun none the less. just thought i'd let you know, and if i see any other games of interest ill post my opinion here. ttfn!