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And I thought Microsoft asking 800CAD$+tax for the 2TB XSX was a bit mad...$960 + tax CAD in Canada
And I thought Microsoft asking 800CAD$+tax for the 2TB XSX was a bit mad...$960 + tax CAD in Canada
That's even worse, for a far inferior machine, specs and games wise.And I thought Microsoft asking 800CAD$+tax for the 2TB XSX was a bit mad...
How it's going:The increased memory bandwidth and more efficient memory system with a more powerful GPU could improve games that are more CPU demanding by a decent chunk. Will try and get one day one if it does not get out of stock straightaway, this seems a much better buy than the PS4 Pro was as that was mainly a bit more of a resolution bump than bigger visual and audio enhancements we are getting this time around. This is the biggest increase in mid-generation hardware performance, almost like getting a generational leap in GPU technology as it's the very best AMD has to offer, even looks beyond their 2025 GPUs in feature set due to PSSR. This thing will sell incredibly well, much more than the share PS4 Pro managed if it is priced close to PS5 disc version. Hopefully they offer bundled version with disc at a discount if it is just a digital SKU.
At that price point, it is going to be lower demand product especially as it is no disc drive at that price. Really needed to be 100 less. Still good value but not at the mass market price point needed, was worried that might be the case with the new Sony president wanting to improve PlayStation margins. At least it will be much easier to buy and won't cannibalise the base console sales for them. Not sure if I will get one day one now as I can see them doing promos on it at that price point.
Silence, you. We (Vertically) Stan consoles in this household!What is with all these vertical stand weirdos? You deserved to be charged extra as far as I'm concerned
I've been PlayStation gamer from the very start and never I've never had any disc issues with any of them and still own 3 PS2 's, a PS3, a PS4 and a PS5, which all run fine. For the price they're charging I would expect a disc drive with this console and the last thing I would be worried about is it going bad. They could have just as easily added a detachable disc drive with it at the same price so wouldn't even compromise the whole console if it was to go bad anyway. So that definitely isn't the reason why it isn't bundled with it.I don’t understand the no disc drive complaint. It’s one of the most fragile components in a gaming console, so having it as a separate add-on greatly reduces the risk of sending an otherwise healthy console in for repairs/replacement.
I've been PlayStation gamer from the very start and never I've never had any disc issues with any of them and still own 3 PS2 's, a PS3, a PS4 and a PS5, which all run fine. For the price they're charging I would expect a disc drive with this console and the last thing I would be worried about is it going bad. They could have just as easily added a detachable disc drive with it at the same price so wouldn't even compromise the whole console if it was to go bad anyway. So that definitely isn't the reason why it isn't bundled with it.
Could a 7900XT run GT7 at 8K without some PSSR/DLSS equivalent? I have no idea myself and not particularly interested in 8K. Just wondering what kind of GPU is needed. Someone also said the CNET journalist played F1 24 in 8K but not seen confirmation.oh god damn 800€ that is crazy. Well no ps5pro for me, now I hope they will publish a PC version so my 7900XT can crush the PS5pro version.
Except people are already pointing out folks would be just as fine buying the $500 model b/c the differences aren't there in the games to justify the extra money.I think people are missing a point regarding the price tag. Many seem pissed off it’s too expensive to justify the upgrade over the base PS5. Guess what? The price is not meant to satisfy people who already own a PS5. It’s aimed at buyers who do not currently own a PS5, and they are getting a lot of horsepower for the money.
Then there’s the disc drive thing, but by giving people the choice to buy it as an add-on Sony is effectively keeping the console’s price lower. Would you rather have an internal disc drive and pay more for the console? Those who don’t need a disc drive would hate that.
For the record, the 7900XT alone costs 700€+ in Finland. I doubt it's crushing much anything with a PC around it that was built entirely with a 100€ MSRP budget.oh god damn 800€ that is crazy. Well no ps5pro for me, now I hope they will publish a PC version so my 7900XT can crush the PS5pro version.
To be fair I do think PS5 Pro is aimed at a subset of PS5 early adopters, and most will trade in their existing PS5's. For someone buying their first system they can still pick up the base model. I find it strange how some are extremely price sensitive but refuse to trade in their current machine. I could understand if it was a generational change, but this is an upgrade.I think people are missing a point regarding the price tag. Many seem pissed off it’s too expensive to justify the upgrade over the base PS5. Guess what? The price is not meant to satisfy people who already own a PS5. It’s aimed at buyers who do not currently own a PS5, and they are getting a lot of horsepower for the money.
Then there’s the disc drive thing, but by giving people the choice to buy it as an add-on Sony is effectively keeping the console’s price lower. Would you rather have an internal disc drive and pay more for the console? Those who don’t need a disc drive would hate that.
Great post!! (in my opinion of course)I've been playing games since the zx spectrum and this is the biggest piss take I can remember. The PS3 price was close but at least that was when generational upgrades meant more.
I bought the PS4 pro when it released, for what it's worth. I felt like it was worth it to play my favourite games in higher resolution.
I'd no interest in a ps5 pro - I barely play my ps5 these days because it's been a while since a new game grabbed me and that's got nothing to do with graphics.
But this price dude... £700 for ANY console and without a DISC DRIVE for the love of gawd... and this being a mid-gen mild improvement and not even a new-gen... I just can't believe Sony have done this.
It doesn't affect me now, as I had no intention of buying but holy hell this feels like a watershed moment in the bigger picture of gaming overall. This is Sony's canary in the coal mine. If it does anything but flop sales wise you had better prepare yourself for a Playstation 6 coming two or three years from now for £800, plus at least £100 for a disc drive.
I see a lot of people on twitter saying, "I don't care, I'll buy it and **** all you broke clowns who don't understand the value of nice things". That is of course the consumer's right - you pays yer money you takes yer choice but that is so unbelievably short sighted a view in my humble opinion. People like that are laying the ground work for an industry wide arse reaming that is 100% coming if this thing sells decent numbers.
Everything else was cheaper though comparatively and the economy was in a much, much better place.$599 in 2006 equates to...
$937.65 in 2024
60GB PS3 lauched at $937 in todays money. We are getting goods so cheap these days we should be embarassed.
I know you're trying very hard across multiple threads to tell people that a ~60% price increase for a memed barely perceptible quality difference even among Sony's cherry-picked first party games (likely in part because of how terrible the presentation was handled) is actually good because of mumblings about "state of the art" (it's not) or car color choices (?); but this "we don't know how good we have it because of inflation" sentiment is something I can directly comment on this time because I was around when this actually happened:$599 in 2006 equates to...
$937.65 in 2024
60GB PS3 lauched at $937 in todays money. We are getting goods so cheap these days we should be embarassed.