Russian Invasion of Ukraine

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What kind of 1962 nonsense is this?

There's a Rooskie ship docked in Havana right now.



This is 100% Trump's fault. If he wouldn't have destroyed our efforts to normalize with Cuba this likely wouldn't be happening at all. Now, thanks to that plant, Russia is cozier with Cuba than ever, and China is attempting to place a military base in Cuba as well.

 
This is 100% Trump's fault. If he wouldn't have destroyed our efforts to normalize with Cuba this likely wouldn't be happening at all. Now, thanks to that plant, Russia is cozier with Cuba than ever, and China is attempting to place a military base in Cuba as well.
JFK's ghost, probably:
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Looking at the ADS feeds though, we certainly have some P-8s up at the moment with two in Florida and one coming from South Carolina:
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There's a Stratotanker chillin out there as well so I'm guessing some more of our party pieces are just flying with their transponders.

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And a new branch of the armed forces? Then what was Space Force? I know it's under the Department of the Air Force, but it's still its own branch as far as I'm aware.
 
There's a Rooskie ship docked in Havana right now.



This is 100% Trump's fault. If he wouldn't have destroyed our efforts to normalize with Cuba this likely wouldn't be happening at all. Now, thanks to that plant, Russia is cozier with Cuba than ever, and China is attempting to place a military base in Cuba as well.


Gotta get that cuban vote in Florida I guess. From a geo-political perspective it makes no sense to make Cuba an adversary, driven into the arms of another man. From a human rights perspective, they are surely no worse than our friends with benefits Saudi Arabia and we have productive if transactional relationships with other communist countries. If we flooded Cuba with good vibes and trade it would probably become a free state organically.
 
JFK's ghost, probably:
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Looking at the ADS feeds though, we certainly have some P-8s up at the moment with two in Florida and one coming from South Carolina:
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There's a Stratotanker chillin out there as well so I'm guessing some more of our party pieces are just flying with their transponders.

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And a new branch of the armed forces? Then what was Space Force? I know it's under the Department of the Air Force, but it's still its own branch as far as I'm aware.
I think they were speaking of the drone branch for Ukraine. They broke off all the drones into their own branch. Call it a poor transliteration.

As for ADS-B data, I'd say it's nearly impossible to tell what those planes are doing in Florida. That whole region is constantly chock full of military flights for anything from training to weather. Massive swaths of the coastal airspace are MOAs and other occasionally restricted areas. Weather ops are pretty constant this time of year as well. The P-8's primary duty is to scan for subs all around our coastal waters so if that's what they're doing it probably isn't any more special than what they've been doing for decades.

Gotta get that cuban vote in Florida I guess. From a geo-political perspective it makes no sense to make Cuba an adversary, driven into the arms of another man. From a human rights perspective, they are surely no worse than our friends with benefits Saudi Arabia and we have productive if transactional relationships with other communist countries. If we flooded Cuba with good vibes and trade it would probably become a free state organically.
I don't think it could happen organically at all. Transitions would have to be planned carefully becuase their government has such a tight clamp down on what gets distributed there, and all logistical networks are so set in stone with no alternatives and little adaptibility. It would be a decades-long process, but one we should definitely be attempting. Back in 2015 when I visited, city folks' quality of life wasn't terrible but since Covid things have really gone downhill apparently.
 
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Yesterday was national day off and system did emergency shut down, now everything somewhat ok.
Bull honky. The problem was caused by new sanctions. Multiple economic outlets are reporting on the Russian market shutdown as it adapted to the new sanctions, unfortunately most of them are subscription news of course.
 
It can't be a coincidence that Tagesschau is reporting that four deputy defence ministers have been dismissed and... one of the positions has been filled by a relative of Putin.

Translation: Putin dismisses four deputy defence ministers - relative receives post

 
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Putin's trip to North Korea stinks of desperation; can't find any useful friends even amongst the despots. Even China doesn't want much to do with North Korea these days yet Russia is now entering a 'new era' with a 'key partner'. It's like Alpine F1 announcing a partnership with ByKolles.
 
It can't be a coincidence that Tagesschau is reporting that four deputy defence ministers have been dismissed and... one of the positions has been filled by a relative of Putin.

Translation: Putin dismisses four deputy defence ministers - relative receives post


Is blood thicker than a window?
 
Putin's trip to North Korea stinks of desperation; can't find any useful friends even amongst the despots. Even China doesn't want much to do with North Korea these days yet Russia is now entering a 'new era' with a 'key partner'. It's like Alpine F1 announcing a partnership with ByKolles.
In the grand scheme of things it's a huge problem. Think of Russia-NK-China as an axis, Japan-Taiwan-Phillipines-Vietnam-Malaysia-US as another. These people may be maniacs but they're not completely stupid. If anything pops off in the South China Sea within the next five years (it probably will) or Taiwan, the whole thing is going to blow up. NK will absolutely attack SK, Russia will prevent the US from entering from Alaska, and China will handle the rest.

We can't use legit military numbers to judge the capabilities of these countries. They don't follow our rules, so we must assume that literally every male from like 15+ will be drafted into their militaries while all the women go work the factories, a lot like WW2. Russia and NK are already very isolated globally so transitioning to a total war economy wouldn't be difficult. Russia is kind of already there. That transition would be extremely painful for the US and allies.
 
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Where do you guys get these random screen shots from? No source, no website, really strange formattering, nothing to suggest that this isn't simply typed up by a rando on Instagram and screenshotted then passed around the internet like candy. I can't even assume this came from your PC because there's no taskbar or browser tabs visible.

This style of "information" has become commonplace these past couple years and it drives me nuts. I personally prefer to embed Twitter because at least there's a name and date associated with it. If a person lives in a country where they can't view Twitter that sounds like a personal problem.
 
Where do you guys get these random screen shots from? No source, no website, really strange formattering, nothing to suggest that this isn't simply typed up by a rando on Instagram and screenshotted then passed around the internet like candy. I can't even assume this came from your PC because there's no taskbar or browser tabs visible.

This style of "information" has become commonplace these past couple years and it drives me nuts. I personally prefer to embed Twitter because at least there's a name and date associated with it. If a person lives in a country where they can't view Twitter that sounds like a personal problem.
It's a Google Translate screenshot, of presumably a Russian-language source. Some of the previous ones have been Telegram channels, which cannot be embedded or linked.
 
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It's a Google Translate screenshot, of presumably a Russian-language source. Some of the previous ones have been Telegram channels, which cannot be embedded or linked.
I'm aware we can't access Telegram etc but some visual context or explainers would be ideal.

@inCloud when I embedd Twitter posts are you able to see those like the one below?



I'm not sure exactly what this person means by "widen the river" since the river doesn't appear nagivable further than a few miles. Some Googley mapping tells me that China and Russia have a very strange border in this area. North Korea is to the south and west of the river, makes sense, and at the mouth of the river, Russia is to the north and east. But for several miles inland, China occupies a sliver of the shoreline, just wide enough for a couple tiny facilities and villages, and at one point the Russian border is only 250 feet away from the water, just enough space for the Chinese to fit a two-lane road.

That particularly tight spot looks like an area that China would want to widen to increase commerce, or traffic. They do appear to be doing something with their shoreline, building a stone levee near a few boat docks. The biggest ship there is about 100 feet long, the ones that look military-esque are about 45 feet long, and everything else appears to be small and construction-related or pleasure-related. There is a vacation resort area nearby. They're clearly trying to control the meandering and flooding of the river and ensure that area remains deep near the docks. That said, this river is probably only seasonally navigable at best and clearly varies in depth by a huge margin throughout the year so I wouldn't call it safe for any decent ocean-going vessel. Coastal CG boats and that about it.

As for this "widening", it makes the most sense to me for China to be requesting more land at that skinny spot in the border. Widening that spot would allow them to build a railroad track down to the docks which could be a lot more useful than the current two-land road. So that's, what, 10 acres of land? Not much, that's literally $100,000 here in Ohio. Downstream near where all their tips touch, Russia and NK have a railroad crossing and trade hub which is course doesn't involve China at all, and would become complicated if it did so I think it's unlikely that Russia is selling any land further torward the mouth of the river.

But they could be. Can't count it out because China's favorite thing is to built ridiculous and nonsensical construction projects with monopoly money.

Edit: To illustrate the wealth gap between these two countries - or two extremes of economic incompetence - while the Chinese have build a brand new paved road to this area which appears in excellent condition, the Russians...didn't.

Edit 2: I take it back! The streetview data is old...they've paved some of it!
 
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On PC with VPN, I don't use one on my phone

Our Far East part doesn't have enough population to justify roads.
Similar to Alaska. I'm not really ragging on Russia for it although they are more barren than most US and Canadian northern areas. But the opposite is China will spend a ridiculous amount of money for very little economic gain - the Vladivostok coastline has way more population than the nearby Chinese area, and way more reason for infrastructure with the big rail trading port with NK. China will spend a ton of money on infrastructure to nowhere.
 
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