Spyder & Roadster Pro - Trackside Commentary

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Like 68 Cuda, I also ran parts of this race recently.

Using a pretty-much-full-build Mugen S2000, at 380 hp, I ran the first race at Grand valley a month or so ago. Then I got distracted by the Pro Vitz series and the PD Cup, and finishing Rally mode, not to mention some OLR... anyway, it's been a while. So the first race commentary is going to be a little thin.

Grand Valley Speedway - 10 laps

I started without qualifying, on T3 tires. The built S2000 runs very very comparably to the Elise/Exige 190, and has a little more muscle than the ZZS. The Griffith leaves it in the dust on the straights, and while corners are in my favor, the Mugen S2000 is easy to slide on hard tires, which can really kill time.

As expected, the Griffith left the gates and ran away, while I clawed my way through the pack. By lap 2 I managed to take the lead from the Griffith at the Little Hairpin, and hold onto it until lap 6, when he passed me again on the last strength of his tires. The Griffith led the field into the pits on lap 7, with others following on 8 and 9 (fire that crew chief!). This gave me the lead, and left the slow-but-steady little ZZS steaming along in 2nd place. The Griffith came charging back in the last few laps but I held out to take the win with the ZZS in tow. He in fact caught up a lot at the last lap because 10 laps on this loooong track had pretty much killed my tires.

Margin: +0':4.936", Tommykaira ZZS
Total: 20':32.608", 10 laps
Fast lap: 2':00.051"
Average: 2':03.260", with no pit

Trial Mountain Raceway - 10 laps

Fast forward to a month + hiatus from the little S2000 that could. Without changing oil, tires, suspension or gearing, I jumped onto the grid in 6th place. I was cold on the car and GT3 in general, so my intial start was not great. It took me several laps to work my way up to 3rd, since there are so few good passing opportunities on this track (for me, anyway). The little bugeyed ZZS was also giving me a very decent run for my money. I eventually took 2nd away from the Elise 190 somewhere around lap 6, inheriting the lead shortly after that when the Griffith pitted from a few seconds in front of me.

That joy was short lived, however, as the Griffith reemerged from the pits and came back to claim his barstool from me... I held out without pitting (only the Griffith and the Boxster got tires, I believe), but the Griffith muscled on by and I finished second by about 8.low".

Hopefully the Mugen has some extra power available, because I'd like to come back and win this one in it.

Cote d'Azur - 10 laps

After racing in the chilly northern mountains, the field headed to the sunny south of France for the finale at Monaco. I like this track, and I knew the Griffith's power advantage would be negated. Despite the sceduled length of 15 laps, I stuck with the T3s.

Starting from 6th, I stayed right when the field merged left on the green flag. Easing to the inside and braking as late as possible for the first turn, I squeaked my way into 3rd at the bottom of the hill. Surprisingly, it was the Elise 190 in the lead, followed by the MS version (who had decided to make an appearance, replacing the Boxster). Holding a tight line, I took the MS Elise at the Casino turn, then led her a merry chase down through the switchbacks. I made a clean pass on the 190 at the Box Chicane, taking the lead halfway through lap 1. The MS Elise passed her lower-output sister shortly after, and stayed a few seconds behind me.

From then on, I really drove conservative laps in order to keep the T3s in shape for the whole race. Though my lap times were not spectacular, I steadily widened the interval each lap. Monaco is one of those tracks where knowing when to be slow can really make you a lot faster. At the halfway point my tires were yellow with a hint of orange, so I stayed with the same strategy, incrementally widening my lead each lap. The Griffith and the S2000 pitted on lap 9. On the last lap, I could see the S2000-V ahead of me through the back half of the course - I was just a few seconds from putting him off the lead lap. The T3s were still up to the task, although nearly exhausted, when I crossed the line with the MS Elise a distant 2nd.

Margin: +0':14.485", Motorsport Elise > +1':44. 860", S2000-V
Total: 26':38.619", 15 laps
Fast lap: 1':44.485"
Average: 1':46.574", with no pit

If I can gain about 1.5"/lap at TMR, I can win it in this car. Maybe if I qualify, and get warmed up before running it...
 
If they can't manage Grand Valley Reverse, they're never gonna handle Monaco. Oh, well.
 
Man Neon, looks like you had a run and a half during this one. I remember doing this with the Spoon and gave me a few sticky spots. I think you should be able to beat Trail

Mountain with the Mugen, like you said you just took the car and left the pit with it. A little tuning you know you can beat it. Good write up on this one, it seems others are

following the trend on this race. . .
 
funny enough, i did the spider/roadster cup 3 days ago in a 380hp Mugen S2000, and i found it to be a very nice car to drive....but i remember winning by a large margin on Cote, maybe i was up againts different cars!

anyway since i loved this car so much i decided to use it more! you want a race that's close??? try the FR PRO Races in this exact car.... The Speed 6 on mideifeld never got more than 5 seconds ahead or behind THE WHOLE RACE it was INCREDIBLE!! although ONE thing ruined the race....
he decided to pit on the end of lap 14 (of 15) so it gave me the win, but WHOA was it ever a rush! on the straights he just climbs up and over your bumper, then you spend the whole track concentrating SO HARD to make up the time! All in all we swapped the lead 13 times in 15 laps, you guys gotta give it a try
 
Yeah, maybe I'll try it! I do like this car a lot, and I do like tight races. I would enjoy more seat time in this little screamer. And on that note:

Trial Mountain: Round Two - 10 laps

In my previous run at this course, I finished 2nd about 8.xxx" behind the TVR Griffith. This time, I made a few small tweaks to the existing power/handling package, lowering the car a few millimetres, and upping the brake settings a little. Gearing was fine, not quite to redline (gotta love those 10,000 revs) at the braking point for the Green Monster at the end of the back straight.

I knew I was at a disadvantage to the Griffith, and with the Mugen maxed out already the only thing I could do was minimize that disadvantage. So I decided to qualify this time, using T5s for the qualifying laps. I also quit the qualifying run as soon as I had completed my first real lap, but before the field had completed their second lap (which likely would have knocked me back a few spots). This let me gain the pole over the Griffith by decimal seconds. This time, the AI dropped the Boxster (which would have pitted for sure) and substituted the MS Elise (which likely wouldn't) in addition to the 190. Should make for a good race!

After a brief stop in the garage to change down to T3s for the race, I took my place at the pole. With a good launch (and TCS on 1), I held onto the lead when we got the flag. Without the back half of the field in the way, my trip up the hill through the rocks went a lot more quickly this time. Both the Griffith and the MS Elise were dogging me hard most of the way up the hill, until the tussle shook itself out at the entrance to the second tunnel. The Griffith bulled ahead of me and the MS Elise tucked in behind. I briefly regained the lead at the Green Monster, but lost it again to the Griffith's superior climbing power.

For the next couple of trips around I lost about 0.5xx"-1.0xx" per lap to the Griffith, though he never managed to go out of my sight. By lap 4 I was around -3.low" behind him, but tire wear was turning to my advantage. I reeled him in at about the same rate, and at the end of lap 6 I was only 0.7xx" behind when I saw his brakelights flash as he headed for the pits.

I took 1st shortly before the Freejack Chicane at the end of lap 6, with the MS Elise about +3.low" behind. I eased off slightly, but I couldn't afford to relax much. The only other car to pit was the S2000-V, who went in on lap 8. By paying very careful attention to my braking points, I was able to widen my lead over the MS Elise to + 6.mid" without using up the rubber too badly. However, by the end of lap 8 the tires had started to go away, slowing both the MS Elise and me down a bit. I babied the left handers a little on the white flag lap, since the outside front was worst off. I took the checker with the right front tomato red (not quite burnt) and the others reddish orange.

This earns me the final 10 kcr of the Cup, and an A/C Cobra in "see no details" black (509 hp after oil change).

Margin: +5.476" MS Elise > +1':06.951" S2000-V
Fast Lap: 1':30.553"
Total Time: 15':25.504"
Average Lap: 1':32.550" - fairly consistent

Notes and Settings - Mugen S2000

The car was fully built, using N/A 2 tuning (highest available) for 380 hp. All other options installed/performed.

Spring Rate: 10.0/9.0
Ride Height: 86/86
Bound: 4/5
Rebound: 6/7
Camber: 3.0/1.0
Toe: 0/0
Swaybars: 3/4
Brakes: 12/13

Set up this way, the car is slightly loose, but that's better than the Mugen S2000's general tendency to understeer in stock form. Braking early and turning in under trail braking rotates the car into the corner, which is checked at the correct angle by transferring weight aft. A heavy touch on the throttle leads to power oversteer; squeeze the power back on firmly but smoothly. On higher speed corners, a short lift at turn-in is all that's necessary.

The front tires wear slightly faster than the rears, and you will find better tire life (and better lap times) by braking earlier and doing most of your cornering under power.
 
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