Superman Returns

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FoolKiller
Bingo! 👍 The science in that movie is so bad it cracks me up. It is as if they decided it was a comic book so nothing has to be believable. Nevermind that Einstein was rolling in his grave over this stuff.


I guess that is why today's comic book movies are better; the writers and directors recognize that outside of their super powers everything must still fit our realm of known physics.

Well, yeah. I'll go along with that to a point. But Superman I was still excellent all in all and to be honest, the bar that hollywood uses for comic book movies. Honestly, until the end, you really forget that it IS a comic book movie.

And Dan...come on bud! Check out the flicks, then rag all you want. :sly:
 
Swift
Well, yeah. I'll go along with that to a point. But Superman I was still excellent all in all and to be honest, the bar that hollywood uses for comic book movies. Honestly, until the end, you really forget that it IS a comic book movie.
I never said they weren't good. The movies are the reason why I got into comic books to begin with.

I mean, it is Marlon Brando.
 
FoolKiller
I never said they weren't good. The movies are the reason why I got into comic books to begin with.

I mean, it is Marlon Brando.

There you go! BTW, the extended version of Superman that came out a few years ago really explains the Krypton sequence SO much better. But being a fan, I'm sure you already know that. :sly:
 
Swift
There you go! BTW, the extended version of Superman that came out a few years ago really explains the Krypton sequence SO much better. But being a fan, I'm sure you already know that. :sly:
Yet it doesn't explain how making the Earth rotate backwards would probably cause the end of all life.

Of course, when I first saw the movie (4 yrs old) I though that was actually how you went back in time. Then Star Trek showed me the truth. You have to warp around the sun (which apparently won't rip the solar system apart). :sly:
 
FoolKiller
Of course, when I first saw the movie (4 yrs old) I though that was actually how you went back in time. Then Star Trek showed me the truth. You have to warp around the sun (which apparently won't rip the solar system apart). :sly:

Obviously you have to go around the sun to go back in time. I can't believe the superman folks didn't figure that out. I mean they could have had him fly around the sun really fast to go back in time properly. Everyone knows flying around the sun fast is the right way to do it, flying around the Earth fast is just silly.
 
danoff
Obviously you have to go around the sun to go back in time. I can't believe the superman folks didn't figure that out. I mean they could have had him fly around the sun really fast to go back in time properly. Everyone knows flying around the sun fast is the right way to do it, flying around the Earth fast is just silly.

Dan, sometimes your sarcasam is downright scary. :scared: :D
 
Swift
Dan, sometimes your sarcasam is downright scary. :scared: :D

:) Hey, I just write how I talk. When I'm sarcastic in person I usually try to deliver it as seriously as possible.
 
FoolKiller
I think they are hoping to break records by being able to claim the biggest July 4th opening ever. They will probably fail to mention that it was a 7-day "weekend."

Excellent point. But I think the Xmen debut is what urged them to do that.
 
Swift
Excellent point. But I think the Xmen debut is what urged them to do that.
Well, I am guessing that since X-Men was supposed to be a "sleeper cult hit" and not the big money maker of the season (saw multiple critics refer to it that way) and M:I:3 and DaVinci were supposed to be the big blockbusters followed by Pirates and then Superman the guys at Warner Bros either got scared that the "expected" blockbusters are just doing average or they are hoping the X-Men explosive opening will run over on to them as well. I am guessing they are expecting to cash in big time.

Either way I bet they would like to make up most or all of their nearly $200 million that first "weekend." I am sure that there is a bit of envy as they look at Fox already making profits by 6:00 Monday evening.


Out of curiosity, When Tom Cruise heard that a "silly comic book movie" made more money in its opening weekend than his movie has made in a month do you think he jumped around on the furniture or hid in the closet? :sly:
 
FoolKiller
Out of curiosity, When Tom Cruise heard that a "silly comic book movie" made more money in its opening weekend than his movie has made in a month do you think he jumped around on the furniture or hid in the closet? :sly:

Again, all well said.

As far as Tom cruise, I wonder if he knows how much that stupid stunt with threatening to boycott his own premier hurt that movie. It's he WHOLE reason I didn't go to see. I was actually looking forward to it before that that crap. But that's for another thread. :sly:
 
OK, in this article here Roger Friedman says that it looks like Superman had a baby while he was away, based on the trailers.

Now, I know they show Lois with a baby but I would have thought that if this continues after Superman II it would be kind of hard to do that since he and Lois never got that intimate, at least we never saw it.

So, did anyone else get that idea from the trailers?

Also, this brings up the old "Mallrats" argument of how Superman could not father a child with Lois Lane because of his genetic makeup, plus it would be like a shutgun blast.

Now go get a cookie at the cookie stand, which is not a part of the food court, and discuss.
 
I got the impression that she had a baby with another man while Superman was away, that's why he was so angry and broke the picture frame. A Superman's Kid storyline would really turn up the suck on this one.
 
Yup.

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Anderton Prime
I got the impression that she had a baby with another man while Superman was away, that's why he was so angry and broke the picture frame. A Superman's Kid storyline would really turn up the suck on this one.
That's what I thought, but Roger Friedman tried to imply that having Lois have a kid with someone else would ruin the story.

This just goes to prove that the critics are getting out of touch with the fans.
 
FoolKiller
That's what I thought, but Roger Friedman tried to imply that having Lois have a kid with someone else would ruin the story.

This just goes to prove that the critics are getting out of touch with the fans.

We all know that Lois and Clark(TV Series) tanked after they got married. Why? Because that's just not fun, that's why. So if this is a half Kryptonian:half Earthling child, how stupid would that be? THAT is a comic book storyline if I've ever heard one.
 
Swift
We all know that Lois and Clark(TV Series) tanked after they got married. Why? Because that's just not fun, that's why. So if this is a half Kryptonian:half Earthling child, how stupid would that be? THAT is a comic book storyline if I've ever heard one.
Plus, Lois would never be able to carry it to term (it would kick through her stomach), that is of course assuming that she could survive the conception.
 
FoolKiller
Plus, Lois would never be able to carry it to term (it would kick through her stomach), that is of course assuming that she could survive the conception.


:lol:

Well, I think ol Kal-El has gotten control of his powers so that he can "restrain" himself. heh heh.
 
Swift
:lol:

Well, I think ol Kal-El has gotten control of his powers so that he can "restrain" himself. heh heh.
I just worry about the self-control during a heightened emotional state. If in a fit of depression and anger he can betray the one rule passed down to him by his father (do not alter the timeline) what would he do during extreme <ahem> "elation."
 
FoolKiller
I just worry about the self-control during a heightened emotional state. If in a fit of depression and anger he can betray the one rule passed down to him by his father (do not alter the timeline) what would he do during extreme <ahem> "elation."

I believe the line was don't alter history, but I see your point. Either way, BAD IDEA.
 
MdnIte
I have two words as a reference.

Scary Movie.
Or Mallrats to get the full debate in Kevin Smith fashion.

Scary Movie does give a good visual reference though.
 
Just got back from seeing it, and I must say. It is by far my favorite superhero movie ever.

However, I also have a very strong childhood bias toward superman.


GO SUPERMAN!!!!
 
When they first started talking about this movie, I thought it was going to be very goofy. But since I've seen the clips of the movie, I think it looks very promising. I'm glad to hear it was good, and I hope to see it soon.
 
I just hope it answers some of my questions like where he went, why he went, why the return, etc. questions like that.
 
I just realized that I've seen the original Superman, like, once. All other one's, I've never even seen. Looks like I got some work to do. :D
 
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